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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	tpmdd-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [tpmdd-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 5/5] tpm2: expose resource manager via a device link /dev/tpms<n>
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:23:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170113212300.GA1463@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1484337756.2527.48.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 12:02:36PM -0800, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > Actually, no, the devrm is a completely lifetime managed device as
> > > part
> > > of the chip structure.  once you've done a device_del on it, it can
> > > be
> > > kfreed because it's no longer visible to anything else.
> > 
> > No, that isn't enough. Anything else could have obtained a kref on
> > devrm outside of the sphere the device_del manages.
> > 
> > For instance, the cdev does exactly that, via this:
> > 
> > >  	chip->cdev.kobj.parent = &chip->dev.kobj;
> > > +	chip->cdevrm.kobj.parent = &chip->devrm.kobj;
> > 
> > In the worst case the kref the cdev grabs is not released until after
> > tpm_chip_unregister() returns.
> 
> chip_unregister doesn't tear down either device. It's the final
> release of the chip->dev that does that.

I don't think you are seeing the problem.

I think you are assuming cdev_del waits for userspace to close any
open fds. It does not.

Instead cdev independently holds on to a module lock and a kref on the
chip, once userspace has done close() then the kref is dropped and the
module lock let go. This can happen after chip_unregister, after devm
has done the final put_device, and after the driver core has completed
driver detach.

This is why it is necessary for this:

 +	chip->cdevrm.kobj.parent = &chip->devrm.kobj;

To point to a working kref, such as chip->dev.kobj.

My point is this patch has two very subtle bugs caused by devrm having
a broken kref. Yes we can fix those two cases, but this entire class
of bugs is prevented if devrm has a release function that does
put_device(chip->dev).

We have no idea what will happen down the road; most poeple assume
krefs *work*, having a struct with 4 krefs where only 3 work is pretty
wild, IMHO.

> Now there is a related problem that the owner is actually the *wrong*
> module: it holds the tpm module in place not the actual driver module,
> so I can happily attach tcsd to the TPM device then rmmod tpm_tis,
> which causes some interesting issues.  I can fix this, but it's not a
> problem of the current patch.

No, it is correct as is. The cdev fops rely only on the tpm module.
When tpm_chip_unregister returns to the driver the chips->ops is set
to NULL with proper locking - the driver code becomes uncallable at
that point.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-13 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-12 17:46 [PATCH RFC v2 0/5] RFC: in-kernel resource manager Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-12 17:46 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-12 17:46 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/5] tpm: validate TPM 2.0 commands Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-12 17:46   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-12 20:34   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-12 17:46 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/5] tpm: export tpm2_flush_context_cmd Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-12 17:46   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-12 17:46 ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/5] tpm: infrastructure for TPM spaces Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-12 17:46   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-12 18:38   ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
2017-01-12 18:38     ` James Bottomley
2017-01-12 20:31     ` [tpmdd-devel] " Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-12 20:31       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-12 20:38   ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
2017-01-13 16:28     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-14 17:53       ` Ken Goldman
2017-01-16  9:52         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-16  9:52           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-12 20:50   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-12 20:50     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-13  1:17   ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
2017-01-13 16:31     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-16  9:09     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-16 14:24       ` James Bottomley
2017-01-16 14:48         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-16 14:58           ` James Bottomley
2017-01-16 16:52             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-12 17:46 ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/5] tpm: split out tpm-dev.c into tpm-dev.c and tpm-common-dev.c Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-12 17:46   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-13 19:18   ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
2017-01-12 17:46 ` [PATCH RFC v2 5/5] tpm2: expose resource manager via a device link /dev/tpms<n> Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-12 17:46   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-12 18:39   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-12 18:39     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-13 19:20     ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
2017-01-13 19:47       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-13 19:47         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-13 20:02         ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
2017-01-13 20:02           ` James Bottomley
2017-01-13 21:23           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2017-01-14  1:10             ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
2017-01-16 16:54               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-12 19:46   ` James Bottomley
2017-01-12 19:46     ` James Bottomley
2017-01-12 20:56   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-01-13 17:25     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-13 17:40       ` [tpmdd-devel] " James Bottomley
2017-01-13 17:40         ` James Bottomley
2017-01-13 18:01         ` [tpmdd-devel] " Jason Gunthorpe
2017-01-13 18:11           ` James Bottomley
2017-01-16  9:45         ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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