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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	djwong@kernel.org, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, cluster-devel@redhat.com,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, logfs@logfs.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	reiserfs-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ntfs-dev@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-afs@lists.infradead.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] mm: introduce memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} API
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:09:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170307150956.GM28642@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170306132214.1769368301d9e671e1bc68be@linux-foundation.org>

On Mon 06-03-17 13:22:14, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon,  6 Mar 2017 14:14:05 +0100 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
[...]
> > --- a/include/linux/gfp.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/gfp.h
> > @@ -210,8 +210,16 @@ struct vm_area_struct;
> >   *
> >   * GFP_NOIO will use direct reclaim to discard clean pages or slab pages
> >   *   that do not require the starting of any physical IO.
> > + *   Please try to avoid using this flag directly and instead use
> > + *   memalloc_noio_{save,restore} to mark the whole scope which cannot
> > + *   perform any IO with a short explanation why. All allocation requests
> > + *   will inherit GFP_NOIO implicitly.
> >   *
> >   * GFP_NOFS will use direct reclaim but will not use any filesystem interfaces.
> > + *   Please try to avoid using this flag directly and instead use
> > + *   memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} to mark the whole scope which cannot/shouldn't
> > + *   recurse into the FS layer with a short explanation why. All allocation
> > + *   requests will inherit GFP_NOFS implicitly.
> 
> I wonder if these are worth a checkpatch rule.

I am not really sure, to be honest. This may easilly end up people
replacing

do_alloc(GFP_NOFS)

with

memalloc_nofs_save()
do_alloc(GFP_KERNEL)
memalloc_nofs_restore()

which doesn't make any sense of course. From my experience, people tend
to do stupid things just to silent checkpatch warnings very often.
Moreover I believe we need to do the transition to the new api first
before we can push back on the explicit GFP_NOFS usage. Maybe then we
can think about the a checkpatch warning.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	djwong@kernel.org, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, cluster-devel@redhat.com,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, logfs@logfs.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	reiserfs-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ntfs-dev@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-afs@lists.infradead.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] mm: introduce memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} API
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:09:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170307150956.GM28642@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170306132214.1769368301d9e671e1bc68be@linux-foundation.org>

On Mon 06-03-17 13:22:14, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon,  6 Mar 2017 14:14:05 +0100 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
[...]
> > --- a/include/linux/gfp.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/gfp.h
> > @@ -210,8 +210,16 @@ struct vm_area_struct;
> >   *
> >   * GFP_NOIO will use direct reclaim to discard clean pages or slab pages
> >   *   that do not require the starting of any physical IO.
> > + *   Please try to avoid using this flag directly and instead use
> > + *   memalloc_noio_{save,restore} to mark the whole scope which cannot
> > + *   perform any IO with a short explanation why. All allocation requests
> > + *   will inherit GFP_NOIO implicitly.
> >   *
> >   * GFP_NOFS will use direct reclaim but will not use any filesystem interfaces.
> > + *   Please try to avoid using this flag directly and instead use
> > + *   memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} to mark the whole scope which cannot/shouldn't
> > + *   recurse into the FS layer with a short explanation why. All allocation
> > + *   requests will inherit GFP_NOFS implicitly.
> 
> I wonder if these are worth a checkpatch rule.

I am not really sure, to be honest. This may easilly end up people
replacing

do_alloc(GFP_NOFS)

with

memalloc_nofs_save()
do_alloc(GFP_KERNEL)
memalloc_nofs_restore()

which doesn't make any sense of course. From my experience, people tend
to do stupid things just to silent checkpatch warnings very often.
Moreover I believe we need to do the transition to the new api first
before we can push back on the explicit GFP_NOFS usage. Maybe then we
can think about the a checkpatch warning.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: cluster-devel.redhat.com
Subject: [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 4/7] mm: introduce memalloc_nofs_{save, restore} API
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:09:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170307150956.GM28642@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170306132214.1769368301d9e671e1bc68be@linux-foundation.org>

On Mon 06-03-17 13:22:14, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon,  6 Mar 2017 14:14:05 +0100 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
[...]
> > --- a/include/linux/gfp.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/gfp.h
> > @@ -210,8 +210,16 @@ struct vm_area_struct;
> >   *
> >   * GFP_NOIO will use direct reclaim to discard clean pages or slab pages
> >   *   that do not require the starting of any physical IO.
> > + *   Please try to avoid using this flag directly and instead use
> > + *   memalloc_noio_{save,restore} to mark the whole scope which cannot
> > + *   perform any IO with a short explanation why. All allocation requests
> > + *   will inherit GFP_NOIO implicitly.
> >   *
> >   * GFP_NOFS will use direct reclaim but will not use any filesystem interfaces.
> > + *   Please try to avoid using this flag directly and instead use
> > + *   memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} to mark the whole scope which cannot/shouldn't
> > + *   recurse into the FS layer with a short explanation why. All allocation
> > + *   requests will inherit GFP_NOFS implicitly.
> 
> I wonder if these are worth a checkpatch rule.

I am not really sure, to be honest. This may easilly end up people
replacing

do_alloc(GFP_NOFS)

with

memalloc_nofs_save()
do_alloc(GFP_KERNEL)
memalloc_nofs_restore()

which doesn't make any sense of course. From my experience, people tend
to do stupid things just to silent checkpatch warnings very often.
Moreover I believe we need to do the transition to the new api first
before we can push back on the explicit GFP_NOFS usage. Maybe then we
can think about the a checkpatch warning.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs



  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-07 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-06 13:14 [PATCH 0/7 v5] scope GFP_NOFS api Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14 ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14 ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14 ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14 ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14 ` [PATCH 1/7] lockdep: teach lockdep about memalloc_noio_save Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14 ` [PATCH 2/7] lockdep: allow to disable reclaim lockup detection Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14 ` [PATCH 3/7] xfs: abstract PF_FSTRANS to PF_MEMALLOC_NOFS Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14 ` [PATCH 4/7] mm: introduce memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} API Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 4/7] mm: introduce memalloc_nofs_{save, restore} API Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` [PATCH 4/7] mm: introduce memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} API Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` [PATCH 4/7] mm: introduce memalloc_nofs_{save, restore} API Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` [PATCH 4/7] mm: introduce memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} API Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` [PATCH 4/7] mm: introduce memalloc_nofs_{save, restore} API Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` [PATCH 4/7] mm: introduce memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} API Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 21:22   ` Andrew Morton
2017-03-06 21:22     ` [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 4/7] mm: introduce memalloc_nofs_{save, restore} API Andrew Morton
2017-03-06 21:22     ` [PATCH 4/7] mm: introduce memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} API Andrew Morton
2017-03-06 21:22     ` Andrew Morton
2017-03-06 21:22     ` Andrew Morton
2017-03-07 15:09     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2017-03-07 15:09       ` [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 4/7] mm: introduce memalloc_nofs_{save, restore} API Michal Hocko
2017-03-07 15:09       ` [PATCH 4/7] mm: introduce memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} API Michal Hocko
2017-03-09 11:42       ` David Sterba
2017-03-09 11:42         ` [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 4/7] mm: introduce memalloc_nofs_{save, restore} API David Sterba
2017-03-09 11:42         ` [PATCH 4/7] mm: introduce memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} API David Sterba
2017-03-06 13:14 ` [PATCH 5/7] xfs: use memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} instead of memalloc_noio* Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 5/7] xfs: use memalloc_nofs_{save, restore} " Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` [PATCH 5/7] xfs: use memalloc_nofs_{save,restore} " Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14 ` [PATCH 6/7] jbd2: mark the transaction context with the scope GFP_NOFS context Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14 ` [PATCH 7/7] jbd2: make the whole kjournald2 kthread NOFS safe Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` Michal Hocko
2017-03-06 13:14   ` Michal Hocko

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