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From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
To: Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>
Cc: "open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS" 
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Inki Dae <inki.dae@samsung.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Chanwoo Choi <cw00.choi@samsung.com>,
	Archit Taneja <architt@codeaurora.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart <Laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/4] dt-bindings: add bindings for USB physical connector
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 18:12:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171005231204.ghvohuue26knemn6@rob-hp-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170928130730.8747-2-a.hajda@samsung.com>

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 03:07:27PM +0200, Andrzej Hajda wrote:
> These bindings allows to describe most known standard USB connectors
> and it should be possible to extend it if necessary.
> USB connectors, beside USB can be used to route other protocols,
> for example UART, Audio, MHL. In such case every device passing data
> through the connector should have appropriate graph bindings.

Yay!

> Signed-off-by: Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>
> ---
> There are few things for discussion (IMO):
> 1. vendor specific connectors, I have added them here, but maybe better is
>    to place them in separate files.

I'd worry about the standard connectors first, but probably good to have 
an idea of how vendor connectors need to be extended.

> 2. physical connector description - I have split it to three properties:
>    type(a,b,ab,c), max-mode(ls,fs,hs,ss,ss+), size(mini,micro,powered).
>    This tripled is able to describe all USB-standard connectors, but there
>    are also impossible combinations, for example(c, *, micro). Maybe better
>    would be to just enumerate all possible connectors in include file.

We did "type" for hdmi-connector, but I think I'd really prefer 
compatible be used to distinguish as least where it may matter to s/w. 
In the HDMI case, they all are pretty much the same, just different 
physical size.

> 3. Numbering of port/remote nodes, currently only 0 is assigned for Interface
>    Controller. Maybe other functions should be also assigned:
>    HS, SS, CC, SBU, ... whatever. Maybe functions should be described
>    as an additional property of remote node?

child of the controller is also an option. There's already prec

> ...
> 
> Regards
> Andrzej
> ---
>  .../bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt           | 49 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 49 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..f3a4e85122d5
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
> @@ -0,0 +1,49 @@
> +USB Connector
> +=============
> +
> +Required properties:
> +- compatible: "usb-connector"
> +  connectors with vendor specific extensions can add one of additional
> +  compatibles:
> +    "samsung,usb-connector-11pin": 11-pin Samsung micro-USB connector
> +- type: the USB connector type: "a", "b", "ab", "c"
> +- max-mode: max USB speed mode supported by the connector:
> +  "ls", "fs", "hs", "ss", "ss+"

Do we really see cases where the connector is slower than the 
controller? Plus things like "ls" with an type A connector are not 
valid.

> +
> +Optional properties:
> +- label: a symbolic name for the connector
> +- size: size of the connector, should be specified in case of
> +  non-standard USB connectors: "mini", "micro", "powered"

What does powered mean?

This is really "type" if you compare to HDMI.

> +
> +Required nodes:
> +- any data bus to the connector should be modeled using the
> +  OF graph bindings specified in bindings/graph.txt.
> +  There should be exactly one port with at least one endpoint to
> +  different device nodes. The first endpoint (reg = <0>) should
> +  point to USB Interface Controller.
> +
> +Example
> +-------
> +
> +musb_con: connector {
> +	compatible = "samsung,usb-connector-11pin", "usb-connector";
> +	label = "usb";

> +	type = "b";
> +	size = "micro";
> +	max-mode = "hs";

These all are implied by "samsung,usb-connector-11pin".

> +
> +	port {
> +		#address-cells = <1>;
> +		#size-cells = <0>;
> +
> +		musb_con_usb_in: endpoint@0 {
> +			reg = <0>;
> +			remote-endpoint = <&muic_usb_out>;
> +		};
> +
> +		musb_con_mhl_in: endpoint@1 {
> +			reg = <1>;
> +			remote-endpoint = <&mhl_out>;
> +		};

I think this should be 2 ports, not 2 endpoints. Think of ports as 
different data streams and endpoints are either the same data stream 
muxed or fanned out depending on direction. Now for Type-C, 1 port for 
USB and alternate modes is probably correct.

Rob

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From: Rob Herring <robh-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS"
	<devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
	<b.zolnierkie-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Marek Szyprowski
	<m.szyprowski-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org,
	Inki Dae <inki.dae-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski
	<krzk-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Chanwoo Choi <cw00.choi-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Archit Taneja <architt-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Laurent Pinchart
	<Laurent.pinchart-ryLnwIuWjnjg/C1BVhZhaw@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	linux-samsung-soc-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/4] dt-bindings: add bindings for USB physical connector
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 18:12:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171005231204.ghvohuue26knemn6@rob-hp-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170928130730.8747-2-a.hajda-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 03:07:27PM +0200, Andrzej Hajda wrote:
> These bindings allows to describe most known standard USB connectors
> and it should be possible to extend it if necessary.
> USB connectors, beside USB can be used to route other protocols,
> for example UART, Audio, MHL. In such case every device passing data
> through the connector should have appropriate graph bindings.

Yay!

> Signed-off-by: Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda-Sze3O3UU22JBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
> ---
> There are few things for discussion (IMO):
> 1. vendor specific connectors, I have added them here, but maybe better is
>    to place them in separate files.

I'd worry about the standard connectors first, but probably good to have 
an idea of how vendor connectors need to be extended.

> 2. physical connector description - I have split it to three properties:
>    type(a,b,ab,c), max-mode(ls,fs,hs,ss,ss+), size(mini,micro,powered).
>    This tripled is able to describe all USB-standard connectors, but there
>    are also impossible combinations, for example(c, *, micro). Maybe better
>    would be to just enumerate all possible connectors in include file.

We did "type" for hdmi-connector, but I think I'd really prefer 
compatible be used to distinguish as least where it may matter to s/w. 
In the HDMI case, they all are pretty much the same, just different 
physical size.

> 3. Numbering of port/remote nodes, currently only 0 is assigned for Interface
>    Controller. Maybe other functions should be also assigned:
>    HS, SS, CC, SBU, ... whatever. Maybe functions should be described
>    as an additional property of remote node?

child of the controller is also an option. There's already prec

> ...
> 
> Regards
> Andrzej
> ---
>  .../bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt           | 49 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 49 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..f3a4e85122d5
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
> @@ -0,0 +1,49 @@
> +USB Connector
> +=============
> +
> +Required properties:
> +- compatible: "usb-connector"
> +  connectors with vendor specific extensions can add one of additional
> +  compatibles:
> +    "samsung,usb-connector-11pin": 11-pin Samsung micro-USB connector
> +- type: the USB connector type: "a", "b", "ab", "c"
> +- max-mode: max USB speed mode supported by the connector:
> +  "ls", "fs", "hs", "ss", "ss+"

Do we really see cases where the connector is slower than the 
controller? Plus things like "ls" with an type A connector are not 
valid.

> +
> +Optional properties:
> +- label: a symbolic name for the connector
> +- size: size of the connector, should be specified in case of
> +  non-standard USB connectors: "mini", "micro", "powered"

What does powered mean?

This is really "type" if you compare to HDMI.

> +
> +Required nodes:
> +- any data bus to the connector should be modeled using the
> +  OF graph bindings specified in bindings/graph.txt.
> +  There should be exactly one port with at least one endpoint to
> +  different device nodes. The first endpoint (reg = <0>) should
> +  point to USB Interface Controller.
> +
> +Example
> +-------
> +
> +musb_con: connector {
> +	compatible = "samsung,usb-connector-11pin", "usb-connector";
> +	label = "usb";

> +	type = "b";
> +	size = "micro";
> +	max-mode = "hs";

These all are implied by "samsung,usb-connector-11pin".

> +
> +	port {
> +		#address-cells = <1>;
> +		#size-cells = <0>;
> +
> +		musb_con_usb_in: endpoint@0 {
> +			reg = <0>;
> +			remote-endpoint = <&muic_usb_out>;
> +		};
> +
> +		musb_con_mhl_in: endpoint@1 {
> +			reg = <1>;
> +			remote-endpoint = <&mhl_out>;
> +		};

I think this should be 2 ports, not 2 endpoints. Think of ports as 
different data streams and endpoints are either the same data stream 
muxed or fanned out depending on direction. Now for Type-C, 1 port for 
USB and alternate modes is probably correct.

Rob
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From: robh@kernel.org (Rob Herring)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 1/4] dt-bindings: add bindings for USB physical connector
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 18:12:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171005231204.ghvohuue26knemn6@rob-hp-laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170928130730.8747-2-a.hajda@samsung.com>

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 03:07:27PM +0200, Andrzej Hajda wrote:
> These bindings allows to describe most known standard USB connectors
> and it should be possible to extend it if necessary.
> USB connectors, beside USB can be used to route other protocols,
> for example UART, Audio, MHL. In such case every device passing data
> through the connector should have appropriate graph bindings.

Yay!

> Signed-off-by: Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>
> ---
> There are few things for discussion (IMO):
> 1. vendor specific connectors, I have added them here, but maybe better is
>    to place them in separate files.

I'd worry about the standard connectors first, but probably good to have 
an idea of how vendor connectors need to be extended.

> 2. physical connector description - I have split it to three properties:
>    type(a,b,ab,c), max-mode(ls,fs,hs,ss,ss+), size(mini,micro,powered).
>    This tripled is able to describe all USB-standard connectors, but there
>    are also impossible combinations, for example(c, *, micro). Maybe better
>    would be to just enumerate all possible connectors in include file.

We did "type" for hdmi-connector, but I think I'd really prefer 
compatible be used to distinguish as least where it may matter to s/w. 
In the HDMI case, they all are pretty much the same, just different 
physical size.

> 3. Numbering of port/remote nodes, currently only 0 is assigned for Interface
>    Controller. Maybe other functions should be also assigned:
>    HS, SS, CC, SBU, ... whatever. Maybe functions should be described
>    as an additional property of remote node?

child of the controller is also an option. There's already prec

> ...
> 
> Regards
> Andrzej
> ---
>  .../bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt           | 49 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 49 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
> new file mode 100644
> index 000000000000..f3a4e85122d5
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/connector/usb-connector.txt
> @@ -0,0 +1,49 @@
> +USB Connector
> +=============
> +
> +Required properties:
> +- compatible: "usb-connector"
> +  connectors with vendor specific extensions can add one of additional
> +  compatibles:
> +    "samsung,usb-connector-11pin": 11-pin Samsung micro-USB connector
> +- type: the USB connector type: "a", "b", "ab", "c"
> +- max-mode: max USB speed mode supported by the connector:
> +  "ls", "fs", "hs", "ss", "ss+"

Do we really see cases where the connector is slower than the 
controller? Plus things like "ls" with an type A connector are not 
valid.

> +
> +Optional properties:
> +- label: a symbolic name for the connector
> +- size: size of the connector, should be specified in case of
> +  non-standard USB connectors: "mini", "micro", "powered"

What does powered mean?

This is really "type" if you compare to HDMI.

> +
> +Required nodes:
> +- any data bus to the connector should be modeled using the
> +  OF graph bindings specified in bindings/graph.txt.
> +  There should be exactly one port with at least one endpoint to
> +  different device nodes. The first endpoint (reg = <0>) should
> +  point to USB Interface Controller.
> +
> +Example
> +-------
> +
> +musb_con: connector {
> +	compatible = "samsung,usb-connector-11pin", "usb-connector";
> +	label = "usb";

> +	type = "b";
> +	size = "micro";
> +	max-mode = "hs";

These all are implied by "samsung,usb-connector-11pin".

> +
> +	port {
> +		#address-cells = <1>;
> +		#size-cells = <0>;
> +
> +		musb_con_usb_in: endpoint at 0 {
> +			reg = <0>;
> +			remote-endpoint = <&muic_usb_out>;
> +		};
> +
> +		musb_con_mhl_in: endpoint at 1 {
> +			reg = <1>;
> +			remote-endpoint = <&mhl_out>;
> +		};

I think this should be 2 ports, not 2 endpoints. Think of ports as 
different data streams and endpoints are either the same data stream 
muxed or fanned out depending on direction. Now for Type-C, 1 port for 
USB and alternate modes is probably correct.

Rob

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-05 23:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20170928130734eucas1p299c0e8135df3fb0484d72452cbd2ee47@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2017-09-28 13:07 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] dt-bindings: add bindings for USB physical connector Andrzej Hajda
2017-09-28 13:07   ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-09-28 13:07   ` Andrzej Hajda
     [not found]   ` <CGME20170928130735eucas1p1da4f062b6948350289bba9c8bc911dd7@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2017-09-28 13:07     ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] " Andrzej Hajda
2017-09-28 13:07       ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-09-28 13:07       ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-10-05 23:12       ` Rob Herring [this message]
2017-10-05 23:12         ` Rob Herring
2017-10-05 23:12         ` Rob Herring
2017-10-06 11:10         ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-10-06 11:10           ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-10-06 11:10           ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-10-06 17:23           ` Rob Herring
2017-10-06 17:23             ` Rob Herring
2017-10-06 17:23             ` Rob Herring
2017-10-09  8:49             ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-10-09  8:49               ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-10-09  8:49               ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-10-18 15:11       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-10-18 15:11         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-10-18 15:11         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-10-18 15:47         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-10-18 15:47           ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-10-18 15:47           ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-10-19  6:48         ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-10-19  6:48           ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-10-19  6:48           ` Andrzej Hajda
     [not found]   ` <CGME20170928130735eucas1p1298c683dcd7ab5f3ae7a5e19295d2a03@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2017-09-28 13:07     ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] arm64: dts: exynos: add micro-USB connector node to TM2 platforms Andrzej Hajda
2017-09-28 13:07       ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-09-28 13:07       ` Andrzej Hajda
     [not found]   ` <CGME20170928130736eucas1p250bb9d854204ea142a2160cd9ab56194@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2017-09-28 13:07     ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] extcon: add possibility to get extcon device by of node Andrzej Hajda
2017-09-28 13:07       ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-09-28 13:07       ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-10-18  6:59       ` Chanwoo Choi
2017-10-18  6:59         ` Chanwoo Choi
2017-10-18  6:59         ` Chanwoo Choi
     [not found]   ` <CGME20170928130737eucas1p15a82a6fd0f9175075249e02c072e6b0d@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2017-09-28 13:07     ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] drm/bridge/sii8620: use micro-USB cable detection logic to detect MHL Andrzej Hajda
2017-09-28 13:07       ` Andrzej Hajda
2017-09-28 13:07       ` Andrzej Hajda

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