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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: don't expose page to fast gup before it's ready
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 15:07:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180131150736.9703ab0826121f2e9e23cb8e@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180109101050.GA83229@google.com>

On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 02:10:50 -0800 Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 09:46:22AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Mon 08-01-18 14:56:32, Yu Zhao wrote:
> > > We don't want to expose page before it's properly setup. During
> > > page setup, we may call page_add_new_anon_rmap() which uses non-
> > > atomic bit op. If page is exposed before it's done, we could
> > > overwrite page flags that are set by get_user_pages_fast() or
> > > it's callers. Here is a non-fatal scenario (there might be other
> > > fatal problems that I didn't look into):
> > > 
> > > 	CPU 1				CPU1
> > > set_pte_at()			get_user_pages_fast()
> > > page_add_new_anon_rmap()		gup_pte_range()
> > > 	__SetPageSwapBacked()			SetPageReferenced()
> > > 
> > > Fix the problem by delaying set_pte_at() until page is ready.
> > 
> > Have you seen this race happening in real workloads or this is a code
> > review based fix or a theoretical issue? I am primarily asking because
> > the code is like that at least throughout git era and I do not remember
> > any issue like this. If you can really trigger this tiny race window
> > then we should mark the fix for stable.
> 
> I didn't observe the race directly. But I did get few crashes when
> trying to access mem_cgroup of pages returned by get_user_pages_fast().
> Those page were charged and they showed valid mem_cgroup in kdumps.
> So this led me to think the problem came from premature set_pte_at().
> 
> I think the fact that nobody complained about this problem is because
> the race only happens when using ksm+swap, and it might not cause
> any fatal problem even so. Nevertheless, it's nice to have set_pte_at()
> done consistently after rmap is added and page is charged.
> 
> > Also what prevents reordering here? There do not seem to be any barriers
> > to prevent __SetPageSwapBacked leak after set_pte_at with your patch.
> 
> I assumed mem_cgroup_commit_charge() acted as full barrier. Since you
> explicitly asked the question, I realized my assumption doesn't hold
> when memcg is disabled. So we do need something to prevent reordering
> in my patch. And it brings up the question whether we want to add more
> barrier to other places that call page_add_new_anon_rmap() and
> set_pte_at().

No progress here?  I have the patch marked "to be updated", hence it is
stuck.  Please let's get it finished off for 4.17-rc1.

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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: don't expose page to fast gup before it's ready
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 15:07:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180131150736.9703ab0826121f2e9e23cb8e@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180109101050.GA83229@google.com>

On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 02:10:50 -0800 Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 09, 2018 at 09:46:22AM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Mon 08-01-18 14:56:32, Yu Zhao wrote:
> > > We don't want to expose page before it's properly setup. During
> > > page setup, we may call page_add_new_anon_rmap() which uses non-
> > > atomic bit op. If page is exposed before it's done, we could
> > > overwrite page flags that are set by get_user_pages_fast() or
> > > it's callers. Here is a non-fatal scenario (there might be other
> > > fatal problems that I didn't look into):
> > > 
> > > 	CPU 1				CPU1
> > > set_pte_at()			get_user_pages_fast()
> > > page_add_new_anon_rmap()		gup_pte_range()
> > > 	__SetPageSwapBacked()			SetPageReferenced()
> > > 
> > > Fix the problem by delaying set_pte_at() until page is ready.
> > 
> > Have you seen this race happening in real workloads or this is a code
> > review based fix or a theoretical issue? I am primarily asking because
> > the code is like that at least throughout git era and I do not remember
> > any issue like this. If you can really trigger this tiny race window
> > then we should mark the fix for stable.
> 
> I didn't observe the race directly. But I did get few crashes when
> trying to access mem_cgroup of pages returned by get_user_pages_fast().
> Those page were charged and they showed valid mem_cgroup in kdumps.
> So this led me to think the problem came from premature set_pte_at().
> 
> I think the fact that nobody complained about this problem is because
> the race only happens when using ksm+swap, and it might not cause
> any fatal problem even so. Nevertheless, it's nice to have set_pte_at()
> done consistently after rmap is added and page is charged.
> 
> > Also what prevents reordering here? There do not seem to be any barriers
> > to prevent __SetPageSwapBacked leak after set_pte_at with your patch.
> 
> I assumed mem_cgroup_commit_charge() acted as full barrier. Since you
> explicitly asked the question, I realized my assumption doesn't hold
> when memcg is disabled. So we do need something to prevent reordering
> in my patch. And it brings up the question whether we want to add more
> barrier to other places that call page_add_new_anon_rmap() and
> set_pte_at().

No progress here?  I have the patch marked "to be updated", hence it is
stuck.  Please let's get it finished off for 4.17-rc1.

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-31 23:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-08 22:56 [PATCH] mm: don't expose page to fast gup before it's ready Yu Zhao
2018-01-08 22:56 ` Yu Zhao
2018-01-09  8:46 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-09  8:46   ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-09 10:10   ` Yu Zhao
2018-01-09 10:10     ` Yu Zhao
2018-01-31 23:07     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2018-01-31 23:07       ` Andrew Morton
2019-05-14 21:25     ` Andrew Morton
2019-05-14 23:07       ` Yu Zhao
2019-09-14  7:05         ` [PATCH v2] mm: don't expose page to fast gup prematurely Yu Zhao
2019-09-24 11:23           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-09-24 22:05             ` Yu Zhao
2019-09-25 12:17               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-09-26  3:58                 ` Yu Zhao
2019-09-24 23:24           ` [PATCH v3 1/4] mm: remove unnecessary smp_wmb() in collapse_huge_page() Yu Zhao
2019-09-24 23:24             ` Yu Zhao
2019-09-24 23:24             ` [PATCH v3 2/4] mm: don't expose hugetlb page to fast gup prematurely Yu Zhao
2019-09-24 23:24               ` Yu Zhao
2019-09-24 23:24             ` [PATCH v3 3/4] mm: don't expose non-hugetlb " Yu Zhao
2019-09-24 23:24               ` Yu Zhao
2019-09-25  8:25               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-25 22:26                 ` Yu Zhao
2019-09-26 10:20                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2019-09-27  3:26                     ` John Hubbard
2019-09-27  5:06                       ` Yu Zhao
2019-10-01 22:31                         ` John Hubbard
2019-10-02  0:00                           ` Yu Zhao
2019-09-27 12:33                       ` Michal Hocko
2019-09-27 18:31                         ` Yu Zhao
2019-09-27 19:31                         ` John Hubbard
2019-09-29 22:47                           ` John Hubbard
2019-09-30  9:20                           ` Jan Kara
2019-09-30 17:57                             ` John Hubbard
2019-10-01  7:10                               ` Jan Kara
2019-10-01  8:36                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-01  8:40                                   ` Jan Kara
2019-10-01 18:43                                 ` John Hubbard
2019-10-02  9:24                                   ` Jan Kara
2019-10-02 17:33                                     ` John Hubbard
2019-09-24 23:24             ` [PATCH v3 4/4] mm: remove unnecessary smp_wmb() in __SetPageUptodate() Yu Zhao
2019-09-24 23:24               ` Yu Zhao
2019-09-24 23:50               ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-09-25 22:03                 ` Yu Zhao

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