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From: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
To: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
Cc: Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
	balbi@kernel.org, wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, linus.walleij@linaro.org,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	david.brown@linaro.org, alokc@codeaurora.org,
	kramasub@codeaurora.org, linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	andy.gross@linaro.org, jlhugo@gmail.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] i2c: i2c-qcom-geni: Signify successful driver probe
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2019 09:20:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190605082047.GM4797@dell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190605075656.GC29637@localhost>

On Wed, 05 Jun 2019, Johan Hovold wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 08:16:25AM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> > On Tue, 04 Jun 2019, Bjorn Andersson wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue 04 Jun 03:44 PDT 2019, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > 
> > > > The Qualcomm Geni I2C driver currently probes silently which can be
> > > > confusing when debugging potential issues.  Add a low level (INFO)
> > > > print when each I2C controller is successfully initially set-up.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
> > > > ---
> > > >  drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-qcom-geni.c | 2 ++
> > > >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-qcom-geni.c b/drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-qcom-geni.c
> > > > index 0fa93b448e8d..e27466d77767 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-qcom-geni.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-qcom-geni.c
> > > > @@ -598,6 +598,8 @@ static int geni_i2c_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
> > > >  		return ret;
> > > >  	}
> > > >  
> > > > +	dev_info(&pdev->dev, "Geni-I2C adaptor successfully added\n");
> > > > +
> > > 
> > > I would prefer that we do not add such prints, as it would be to accept
> > > the downstream behaviour of spamming the log to the point where no one
> > > will ever look through it.
> > 
> > We should be able to find a middle ground.  Spamming the log with all
> > sorts of device specific information/debug is obviously not
> > constructive, but a single liner to advertise that an important
> > device/controller has been successfully initialised is more helpful
> > than it is hinderous.
> > 
> > This print was added due to the silent initialisation costing me
> > several hours of debugging ACPI device/driver code (albeit learning a
> > lot about ACPI as I go) just to find out that it was already doing the
> > right thing - just very quietly.
> 
> No, we don't add noise like this to the logs just because it may be
> useful while debugging. Even one-liners add up.

One line per device is should not cause an issue.

Problems occur when developers try to print all kinds of device
specifics to the boot log.  A simple, single line for such an
important device/controller has more benefits than drawbacks.

> There are plenty of options for debugging already ranging from adding a
> temporary dev_info() to the probe function in question to using dynamic
> debugging to have driver core log every successful probe.

This is what I ended up doing.  It was time consuming to parse though
a log of that size when you have no paging or keyboard.

> And in this case you say the driver was in fact already bound; that can
> easily be verified through sysfs too in case things aren't behaving the
> way you expect.

Not in a non-booting system with no keyboard you can't. ;)

-- 
Lee Jones [李琼斯]
Linaro Services Technical Lead
Linaro.org │ Open source software for ARM SoCs
Follow Linaro: Facebook | Twitter | Blog

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From: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
To: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
Cc: balbi@kernel.org, david.brown@linaro.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, linus.walleij@linaro.org,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
	wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com, alokc@codeaurora.org,
	kramasub@codeaurora.org, linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	andy.gross@linaro.org, jlhugo@gmail.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] i2c: i2c-qcom-geni: Signify successful driver probe
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2019 09:20:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190605082047.GM4797@dell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190605075656.GC29637@localhost>

On Wed, 05 Jun 2019, Johan Hovold wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 08:16:25AM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> > On Tue, 04 Jun 2019, Bjorn Andersson wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue 04 Jun 03:44 PDT 2019, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > 
> > > > The Qualcomm Geni I2C driver currently probes silently which can be
> > > > confusing when debugging potential issues.  Add a low level (INFO)
> > > > print when each I2C controller is successfully initially set-up.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
> > > > ---
> > > >  drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-qcom-geni.c | 2 ++
> > > >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-qcom-geni.c b/drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-qcom-geni.c
> > > > index 0fa93b448e8d..e27466d77767 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-qcom-geni.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-qcom-geni.c
> > > > @@ -598,6 +598,8 @@ static int geni_i2c_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
> > > >  		return ret;
> > > >  	}
> > > >  
> > > > +	dev_info(&pdev->dev, "Geni-I2C adaptor successfully added\n");
> > > > +
> > > 
> > > I would prefer that we do not add such prints, as it would be to accept
> > > the downstream behaviour of spamming the log to the point where no one
> > > will ever look through it.
> > 
> > We should be able to find a middle ground.  Spamming the log with all
> > sorts of device specific information/debug is obviously not
> > constructive, but a single liner to advertise that an important
> > device/controller has been successfully initialised is more helpful
> > than it is hinderous.
> > 
> > This print was added due to the silent initialisation costing me
> > several hours of debugging ACPI device/driver code (albeit learning a
> > lot about ACPI as I go) just to find out that it was already doing the
> > right thing - just very quietly.
> 
> No, we don't add noise like this to the logs just because it may be
> useful while debugging. Even one-liners add up.

One line per device is should not cause an issue.

Problems occur when developers try to print all kinds of device
specifics to the boot log.  A simple, single line for such an
important device/controller has more benefits than drawbacks.

> There are plenty of options for debugging already ranging from adding a
> temporary dev_info() to the probe function in question to using dynamic
> debugging to have driver core log every successful probe.

This is what I ended up doing.  It was time consuming to parse though
a log of that size when you have no paging or keyboard.

> And in this case you say the driver was in fact already bound; that can
> easily be verified through sysfs too in case things aren't behaving the
> way you expect.

Not in a non-booting system with no keyboard you can't. ;)

-- 
Lee Jones [李琼斯]
Linaro Services Technical Lead
Linaro.org │ Open source software for ARM SoCs
Follow Linaro: Facebook | Twitter | Blog

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-05  8:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-04 10:44 [PATCH 1/8] i2c: i2c-qcom-geni: Provide support for ACPI Lee Jones
2019-06-04 10:44 ` Lee Jones
2019-06-04 10:44 ` [PATCH 2/8] i2c: i2c-qcom-geni: Signify successful driver probe Lee Jones
2019-06-04 10:44   ` Lee Jones
2019-06-04 10:44   ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05  6:20   ` Bjorn Andersson
2019-06-05  6:20     ` Bjorn Andersson
2019-06-05  7:16     ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05  7:16       ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05  7:22       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-06-05  7:22         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2019-06-05  8:23         ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05  8:23           ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05  7:56       ` Johan Hovold
2019-06-05  7:56         ` Johan Hovold
2019-06-05  8:20         ` Lee Jones [this message]
2019-06-05  8:20           ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05  8:33           ` Johan Hovold
2019-06-05  8:33             ` Johan Hovold
2019-06-05  8:49             ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05  8:49               ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05  8:55               ` Johan Hovold
2019-06-05  8:55                 ` Johan Hovold
2019-06-05 14:18                 ` Wolfram Sang
2019-06-05 14:18                   ` Wolfram Sang
2019-06-05 18:49                   ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05 18:49                     ` Lee Jones
2019-06-12 14:54                   ` Johan Hovold
2019-06-12 14:54                     ` Johan Hovold
2019-06-04 10:44 ` [PATCH 3/8] pinctrl: msm: Add ability for drivers to supply a reserved GPIO list Lee Jones
2019-06-04 10:44   ` Lee Jones
2019-06-04 10:44 ` [PATCH 4/8] pinctrl: qcom: sdm845: Provide ACPI support Lee Jones
2019-06-04 10:44   ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05  6:17   ` Bjorn Andersson
2019-06-05  6:17     ` Bjorn Andersson
2019-06-05  7:31     ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05  7:31       ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05 19:06       ` Bjorn Andersson
2019-06-05 19:06         ` Bjorn Andersson
2019-06-05 19:35         ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05 19:35           ` Lee Jones
2019-06-04 10:44 ` [PATCH 5/8] soc: qcom: geni: Add support for ACPI Lee Jones
2019-06-04 10:44   ` Lee Jones
2019-06-04 10:44 ` [PATCH 6/8] usb: dwc3: qcom: Add support for booting with ACPI Lee Jones
2019-06-04 10:44   ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05  6:35   ` Bjorn Andersson
2019-06-05  6:35     ` Bjorn Andersson
2019-06-05  7:09     ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05  7:09       ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05  9:55       ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05  9:55         ` Lee Jones
2019-06-04 10:44 ` [PATCH 7/8] usb: dwc3: qcom: Start USB in 'host mode' on the SDM845 Lee Jones
2019-06-04 10:44   ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05  7:00   ` Bjorn Andersson
2019-06-05  7:00     ` Bjorn Andersson
2019-06-05  8:34     ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05  8:34       ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05 14:07       ` Jeffrey Hugo
2019-06-05 14:07         ` Jeffrey Hugo
2019-06-05 18:50         ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05 18:50           ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05 19:14       ` Bjorn Andersson
2019-06-05 19:14         ` Bjorn Andersson
2019-06-05 19:29         ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05 19:29           ` Lee Jones
2019-06-04 10:44 ` [PATCH 8/8] usb: dwc3: qcom: Improve error handling Lee Jones
2019-06-04 10:44   ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05  7:03   ` Bjorn Andersson
2019-06-05  7:03     ` Bjorn Andersson
2019-06-05 11:42 [PATCH 1/8] i2c: i2c-qcom-geni: Provide support for ACPI Lee Jones
2019-06-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 2/8] i2c: i2c-qcom-geni: Signify successful driver probe Lee Jones
2019-06-05 11:42   ` Lee Jones
2019-06-05 11:42   ` Lee Jones

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