All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
Cc: "Jeff Layton" <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Dave Chinner" <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 02/10] fs/locks: Export F_LAYOUT lease to user space
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 11:46:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190612094634.GA14578@quack2.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190611213812.GC14336@iweiny-DESK2.sc.intel.com>

On Tue 11-06-19 14:38:13, Ira Weiny wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 09, 2019 at 09:00:24AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > On Wed, 2019-06-05 at 18:45 -0700, ira.weiny@intel.com wrote:
> > > From: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
> > > 
> > > GUP longterm pins of non-pagecache file system pages (eg FS DAX) are
> > > currently disallowed because they are unsafe.
> > > 
> > > The danger for pinning these pages comes from the fact that hole punch
> > > and/or truncate of those files results in the pages being mapped and
> > > pinned by a user space process while DAX has potentially allocated those
> > > pages to other processes.
> > > 
> > > Most (All) users who are mapping FS DAX pages for long term pin purposes
> > > (such as RDMA) are not going to want to deallocate these pages while
> > > those pages are in use.  To do so would mean the application would lose
> > > data.  So the use case for allowing truncate operations of such pages
> > > is limited.
> > > 
> > > However, the kernel must protect itself and users from potential
> > > mistakes and/or malicious user space code.  Rather than disabling long
> > > term pins as is done now.   Allow for users who know they are going to
> > > be pinning this memory to alert the file system of this intention.
> > > Furthermore, allow users to be alerted such that they can react if a
> > > truncate operation occurs for some reason.
> > > 
> > > Example user space pseudocode for a user using RDMA and wanting to allow
> > > a truncate would look like this:
> > > 
> > > lease_break_sigio_handler() {
> > > ...
> > > 	if (sigio.fd == rdma_fd) {
> > > 		complete_rdma_operations(...);
> > > 		ibv_dereg_mr(mr);
> > > 		close(rdma_fd);
> > > 		fcntl(rdma_fd, F_SETLEASE, F_UNLCK);
> > > 	}
> > > }
> > > 
> > > setup_rdma_to_dax_file() {
> > > ...
> > > 	rdma_fd = open(...)
> > > 	fcntl(rdma_fd, F_SETLEASE, F_LAYOUT);
> > 
> > I'm not crazy about this interface. F_LAYOUT doesn't seem to be in the
> > same category as F_RDLCK/F_WRLCK/F_UNLCK.
> > 
> > Maybe instead of F_SETLEASE, this should use new
> > F_SETLAYOUT/F_GETLAYOUT cmd values? There is nothing that would prevent
> > you from setting both a lease and a layout on a file, and indeed knfsd
> > can set both.
> > 
> > This interface seems to conflate the two.
> 
> I've been feeling the same way.  This is why I was leaning toward a new lease
> type.  I called it "F_LONGTERM" but the name is not important.
> 
> I think the concept of adding "exclusive" to the layout lease can fix this
> because the NFS lease is non-exclusive where the user space one (for the
> purpose of GUP pinning) would need to be.
> 
> FWIW I have not worked out exactly what this new "exclusive" code will look
> like.  Jan said:
> 
> 	"There actually is support for locks that are not broken after given
> 	timeout so there shouldn't be too many changes need."
> 
> But I'm not seeing that for Lease code.  So I'm working on something for the
> lease code now.

Yeah, sorry for misleading you. Somehow I thought that if lease_break_time
== 0, we will wait indefinitely but when checking the code again, that
doesn't seem to be the case.

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-12  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 136+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-06  1:45 [PATCH RFC 00/10] RDMA/FS DAX truncate proposal ira.weiny
2019-06-06  1:45 ` ira.weiny
2019-06-06  1:45 ` [PATCH RFC 01/10] fs/locks: Add trace_leases_conflict ira.weiny
2019-06-09 12:52   ` Jeff Layton
2019-06-06  1:45 ` [PATCH RFC 02/10] fs/locks: Export F_LAYOUT lease to user space ira.weiny
2019-06-06  1:45   ` ira.weiny
2019-06-09 13:00   ` Jeff Layton
2019-06-09 13:00     ` Jeff Layton
2019-06-11 21:38     ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-11 21:38       ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-12  9:46       ` Jan Kara [this message]
2019-06-06  1:45 ` [PATCH RFC 03/10] mm/gup: Pass flags down to __gup_device_huge* calls ira.weiny
2019-06-06  1:45   ` ira.weiny
2019-06-06  6:18   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-06 16:10     ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-06  1:45 ` [PATCH RFC 04/10] mm/gup: Ensure F_LAYOUT lease is held prior to GUP'ing pages ira.weiny
2019-06-06  1:45   ` ira.weiny
2019-06-06  1:45 ` [PATCH RFC 05/10] fs/ext4: Teach ext4 to break layout leases ira.weiny
2019-06-06  1:45   ` ira.weiny
2019-06-06  1:45 ` [PATCH RFC 06/10] fs/ext4: Teach dax_layout_busy_page() to operate on a sub-range ira.weiny
2019-06-06  1:45   ` ira.weiny
2019-06-06  1:45 ` [PATCH RFC 07/10] fs/ext4: Fail truncate if pages are GUP pinned ira.weiny
2019-06-06  1:45   ` ira.weiny
2019-06-06 10:58   ` Jan Kara
2019-06-06 10:58     ` Jan Kara
2019-06-06 16:17     ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-06  1:45 ` [PATCH RFC 08/10] fs/xfs: Teach xfs to use new dax_layout_busy_page() ira.weiny
2019-06-06  1:45   ` ira.weiny
2019-06-06  1:45 ` [PATCH RFC 09/10] fs/xfs: Fail truncate if pages are GUP pinned ira.weiny
2019-06-06  1:45   ` ira.weiny
2019-06-06  1:45 ` [PATCH RFC 10/10] mm/gup: Remove FOLL_LONGTERM DAX exclusion ira.weiny
2019-06-06  1:45   ` ira.weiny
2019-06-06  5:52 ` [PATCH RFC 00/10] RDMA/FS DAX truncate proposal John Hubbard
2019-06-06  5:52   ` John Hubbard
2019-06-06 17:11   ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-06 17:11     ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-06 19:46     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-06 10:42 ` Jan Kara
2019-06-06 15:35   ` Dan Williams
2019-06-06 19:51   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-06 22:22     ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-07 10:36       ` Jan Kara
2019-06-07 12:17         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-07 14:52           ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-07 14:52             ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-07 15:10             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-12 10:29             ` Jan Kara
2019-06-12 10:29               ` Jan Kara
2019-06-12 11:47               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-12 12:09                 ` Jan Kara
2019-06-12 12:09                   ` Jan Kara
2019-06-12 18:41                   ` Dan Williams
2019-06-13  7:17                     ` Jan Kara
2019-06-13  7:17                       ` Jan Kara
2019-06-12 19:14                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-12 22:13                     ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-12 22:54                       ` Dan Williams
2019-06-12 22:54                         ` Dan Williams
2019-06-12 23:33                         ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-12 23:33                           ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-13  1:14                           ` Dan Williams
2019-06-13  1:14                             ` Dan Williams
2019-06-13 15:13                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 16:25                               ` Dan Williams
2019-06-13 16:25                                 ` Dan Williams
2019-06-13 17:18                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 16:53                           ` Dan Williams
2019-06-13 16:53                             ` Dan Williams
2019-06-13 15:12                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13  7:53                       ` Jan Kara
2019-06-13  7:53                         ` Jan Kara
2019-06-12 18:49               ` Dan Williams
2019-06-12 18:49                 ` Dan Williams
2019-06-13  7:43                 ` Jan Kara
2019-06-06 22:03   ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-06 22:03     ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-06 22:26     ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-06 22:28     ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-07 11:04     ` Jan Kara
2019-06-07 18:25       ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-07 18:25         ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-07 18:25         ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-07 18:50         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-08  0:10         ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-08  0:10           ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-09  1:29           ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-09  1:29             ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-09  1:29             ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-12 12:37           ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-06-12 12:37             ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-06-12 12:37             ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-06-12 23:30             ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-12 23:30               ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-12 23:30               ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-13  0:55               ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-13  0:55                 ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-13  0:55                 ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-13 20:34                 ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-13 20:34                   ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-13 20:34                   ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-14  3:42                   ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-13  0:25             ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-13  0:25               ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-13  3:23               ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-06-13  3:23                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-06-13  3:23                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-06-13  4:36                 ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-13  4:36                   ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-13  4:36                   ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-13 10:47                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-06-13 10:47                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-06-13 10:47                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-06-13 15:29                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-13 15:27               ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-06-13 15:27                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-06-13 15:27                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-06-13 21:13                 ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-13 21:13                   ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-13 23:45                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-14  0:00                     ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-14  0:00                       ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-14  2:09                     ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-14  2:09                       ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-14  2:09                       ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-14  2:31                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-06-14  2:31                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-06-14  3:07                         ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-14  3:07                           ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-14  3:07                           ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-20 14:52                 ` Jan Kara
2019-06-20 14:52                   ` Jan Kara
2019-06-13 20:34               ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-13 20:34                 ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-13 20:34                 ` Ira Weiny
2019-06-14  2:58                 ` Dave Chinner
2019-06-14  2:58                   ` Dave Chinner

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20190612094634.GA14578@quack2.suse.cz \
    --to=jack@suse.cz \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=dan.j.williams@intel.com \
    --cc=david@fromorbit.com \
    --cc=ira.weiny@intel.com \
    --cc=jglisse@redhat.com \
    --cc=jhubbard@nvidia.com \
    --cc=jlayton@kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org \
    --cc=linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=tytso@mit.edu \
    --cc=willy@infradead.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.