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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Emil Velikov <emil.velikov@collabora.com>
Cc: Andrzej Pietrasiewicz <andrzej.p@collabora.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	Joonyoung Shim <jy0922.shim@samsung.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@bootlin.com>,
	Seung-Woo Kim <sw0312.kim@samsung.com>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Inki Dae <inki.dae@samsung.com>, David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Kyungmin Park <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	Kukjin Kim <kgene@kernel.org>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	kernel@collabora.com, Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, m.szyprowski@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Associate ddc adapters with connectors
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 16:07:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190625140755.GT12905@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190625133639.GA16031@arch-x1c3>

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 02:36:39PM +0100, Emil Velikov wrote:
> On 2019/06/25, Andrzej Pietrasiewicz wrote:
> > Hi Russell,
> > 
> > W dniu 25.06.2019 o 12:03, Russell King - ARM Linux admin pisze:
> > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 11:46:34AM +0200, Andrzej Pietrasiewicz wrote:
> > > > It is difficult for a user to know which of the i2c adapters is for which
> > > > drm connector. This series addresses this problem.
> > > > 
> > > > The idea is to have a symbolic link in connector's sysfs directory, e.g.:
> > > > 
> > > > ls -l /sys/class/drm/card0-HDMI-A-1/i2c-2
> > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jun 24 10:42 /sys/class/drm/card0-HDMI-A-1/i2c-2 \
> > > > 	-> ../../../../soc/13880000.i2c/i2c-2
> > > 
> > > Don't you want the symlink name to be "i2c" or something fixed, rather
> > > than the name of the i2c adapter?  Otherwise, you seem to be encumbering
> > > userspace with searching the directory to try and find the symlink.
> > > 
> > 
> > Thank you for your comment. So you imagine something on the lines of:
> > 
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jun 24 10:42 /sys/class/drm/card0-HDMI-A-1/ddc \
> >  	-> ../../../../soc/13880000.i2c/i2c-2
> > 
> > ?
> > 
> Fwiw my Intel machine lists a number of i2c devices:
> /sys/class/drm/card0-DP-1/i2c-6
> /sys/class/drm/card0-DP-2/i2c-7
> /sys/class/drm/card0-eDP-1/i2c-5
> 
> Note: I haven't looked _if_ they relate to ones you're proposing here.
> 
> One thing worth mentioning is, the ones I've seen are not symlinks to
> another sysfs entries. And there aren't any i2c nodes in /dev ...
> 
> Just a random food for thought :-)

Those are the i2c-over-dp-aux controllers. I think we want to list these
too.

Btw to make this more useful maybe some default implementations for
get_modes which automatically dtrt, as a helper? Probably could use that
to squash quite a bit of boilerplate.

Otherwise I like this. Biggest problem I'm seeing here is rolling this out
everywhere, this is a lot of work. And without widespread adoptions it's
not terribly useful for userspace.
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Emil Velikov <emil.velikov@collabora.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@bootlin.com>,
	Seung-Woo Kim <sw0312.kim@samsung.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Andrzej Pietrasiewicz <andrzej.p@collabora.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Kyungmin Park <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	Kukjin Kim <kgene@kernel.org>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, kernel@collabora.com,
	Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, m.szyprowski@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Associate ddc adapters with connectors
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 16:07:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190625140755.GT12905@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190625133639.GA16031@arch-x1c3>

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 02:36:39PM +0100, Emil Velikov wrote:
> On 2019/06/25, Andrzej Pietrasiewicz wrote:
> > Hi Russell,
> > 
> > W dniu 25.06.2019 o 12:03, Russell King - ARM Linux admin pisze:
> > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 11:46:34AM +0200, Andrzej Pietrasiewicz wrote:
> > > > It is difficult for a user to know which of the i2c adapters is for which
> > > > drm connector. This series addresses this problem.
> > > > 
> > > > The idea is to have a symbolic link in connector's sysfs directory, e.g.:
> > > > 
> > > > ls -l /sys/class/drm/card0-HDMI-A-1/i2c-2
> > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jun 24 10:42 /sys/class/drm/card0-HDMI-A-1/i2c-2 \
> > > > 	-> ../../../../soc/13880000.i2c/i2c-2
> > > 
> > > Don't you want the symlink name to be "i2c" or something fixed, rather
> > > than the name of the i2c adapter?  Otherwise, you seem to be encumbering
> > > userspace with searching the directory to try and find the symlink.
> > > 
> > 
> > Thank you for your comment. So you imagine something on the lines of:
> > 
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jun 24 10:42 /sys/class/drm/card0-HDMI-A-1/ddc \
> >  	-> ../../../../soc/13880000.i2c/i2c-2
> > 
> > ?
> > 
> Fwiw my Intel machine lists a number of i2c devices:
> /sys/class/drm/card0-DP-1/i2c-6
> /sys/class/drm/card0-DP-2/i2c-7
> /sys/class/drm/card0-eDP-1/i2c-5
> 
> Note: I haven't looked _if_ they relate to ones you're proposing here.
> 
> One thing worth mentioning is, the ones I've seen are not symlinks to
> another sysfs entries. And there aren't any i2c nodes in /dev ...
> 
> Just a random food for thought :-)

Those are the i2c-over-dp-aux controllers. I think we want to list these
too.

Btw to make this more useful maybe some default implementations for
get_modes which automatically dtrt, as a helper? Probably could use that
to squash quite a bit of boilerplate.

Otherwise I like this. Biggest problem I'm seeing here is rolling this out
everywhere, this is a lot of work. And without widespread adoptions it's
not terribly useful for userspace.
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Emil Velikov <emil.velikov@collabora.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	Joonyoung Shim <jy0922.shim@samsung.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@bootlin.com>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	Seung-Woo Kim <sw0312.kim@samsung.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Andrzej Pietrasiewicz <andrzej.p@collabora.com>,
	Inki Dae <inki.dae@samsung.com>, David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Kyungmin Park <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	Kukjin Kim <kgene@kernel.org>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	kernel@collabora.com, Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, m.szyprowski@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Associate ddc adapters with connectors
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2019 16:07:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190625140755.GT12905@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190625133639.GA16031@arch-x1c3>

On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 02:36:39PM +0100, Emil Velikov wrote:
> On 2019/06/25, Andrzej Pietrasiewicz wrote:
> > Hi Russell,
> > 
> > W dniu 25.06.2019 o 12:03, Russell King - ARM Linux admin pisze:
> > > On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 11:46:34AM +0200, Andrzej Pietrasiewicz wrote:
> > > > It is difficult for a user to know which of the i2c adapters is for which
> > > > drm connector. This series addresses this problem.
> > > > 
> > > > The idea is to have a symbolic link in connector's sysfs directory, e.g.:
> > > > 
> > > > ls -l /sys/class/drm/card0-HDMI-A-1/i2c-2
> > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jun 24 10:42 /sys/class/drm/card0-HDMI-A-1/i2c-2 \
> > > > 	-> ../../../../soc/13880000.i2c/i2c-2
> > > 
> > > Don't you want the symlink name to be "i2c" or something fixed, rather
> > > than the name of the i2c adapter?  Otherwise, you seem to be encumbering
> > > userspace with searching the directory to try and find the symlink.
> > > 
> > 
> > Thank you for your comment. So you imagine something on the lines of:
> > 
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jun 24 10:42 /sys/class/drm/card0-HDMI-A-1/ddc \
> >  	-> ../../../../soc/13880000.i2c/i2c-2
> > 
> > ?
> > 
> Fwiw my Intel machine lists a number of i2c devices:
> /sys/class/drm/card0-DP-1/i2c-6
> /sys/class/drm/card0-DP-2/i2c-7
> /sys/class/drm/card0-eDP-1/i2c-5
> 
> Note: I haven't looked _if_ they relate to ones you're proposing here.
> 
> One thing worth mentioning is, the ones I've seen are not symlinks to
> another sysfs entries. And there aren't any i2c nodes in /dev ...
> 
> Just a random food for thought :-)

Those are the i2c-over-dp-aux controllers. I think we want to list these
too.

Btw to make this more useful maybe some default implementations for
get_modes which automatically dtrt, as a helper? Probably could use that
to squash quite a bit of boilerplate.

Otherwise I like this. Biggest problem I'm seeing here is rolling this out
everywhere, this is a lot of work. And without widespread adoptions it's
not terribly useful for userspace.
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-25 14:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-25  9:46 [PATCH 0/2] Associate ddc adapters with connectors Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-25  9:46 ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-25  9:46 ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-25  9:46 ` [PATCH 1/2] drm: Include ddc adapter pointer in struct drm_connector Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-25  9:46   ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-25  9:46   ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-25  9:46 ` [PATCH 2/2] drm/exynos: Provide ddc symlink in connector's sysfs Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-25  9:46   ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-25  9:46   ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-25 10:03 ` [PATCH 0/2] Associate ddc adapters with connectors Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-06-25 10:03   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-06-25 10:14   ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-25 10:14     ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-25 10:16     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-06-25 10:16       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-06-25 10:24       ` [PATCH v2 " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-25 10:24         ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-25 10:24         ` [PATCH v2 1/2] drm: Include ddc adapter pointer in struct drm_connector Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-25 10:24           ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-25 14:21           ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-25 14:21             ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-25 10:24         ` [PATCH v2 2/2] drm/exynos: Provide ddc symlink in connector's sysfs Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-25 10:24           ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-25 13:36     ` [PATCH 0/2] Associate ddc adapters with connectors Emil Velikov
2019-06-25 13:36       ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-25 14:07       ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2019-06-25 14:07         ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-25 14:07         ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-25 14:10         ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-06-25 14:10           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-06-25 14:20           ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-25 14:20             ` Daniel Vetter
2019-06-26  6:50             ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-26  6:50               ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
     [not found]               ` <3fb19371-db7d-f9dc-31a7-1ccd126f6784-ZGY8ohtN/8qB+jHODAdFcQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-28 16:01                 ` [PATCH v3 00/22] " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
     [not found]                   ` <cover.1561735433.git.andrzej.p-ZGY8ohtN/8qB+jHODAdFcQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 01/22] drm: Include ddc adapter pointer in struct drm_connector Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
     [not found]                       ` <d6381c020ea1c848a7044d830bdb0ec9663d1619.1561735433.git.andrzej.p-ZGY8ohtN/8qB+jHODAdFcQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-06-30  8:12                         ` Thomas Zimmermann
     [not found]                           ` <9b03d145-ec50-927c-55a8-dff1cd51d655-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-01 13:27                             ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
     [not found]                               ` <cf1984e4-50af-302d-ef67-9ad530118c29-ZGY8ohtN/8qB+jHODAdFcQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-01 14:41                                 ` Thomas Zimmermann
     [not found]                                   ` <9e65f3c0-941d-d04c-5745-6b3a2965b990-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-05  9:44                                     ` Andrzej Hajda
2019-07-05  9:44                                       ` Andrzej Hajda
2019-07-05  9:44                                       ` Andrzej Hajda
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 02/22] drm/exynos: Provide ddc symlink in connector's sysfs Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 03/22] drm: rockchip: Provide ddc symlink in rk3066_hdmi sysfs directory Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 04/22] drm: rockchip: Provide ddc symlink in inno_hdmi " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 05/22] drm/msm/hdmi: Provide ddc symlink in hdmi connector " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 06/22] drm/sun4i: hdmi: Provide ddc symlink in sun4i " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 07/22] drm/mediatek: Provide ddc symlink in " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 08/22] drm/tegra: Provide ddc symlink in output " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 09/22] drm/imx: imx-ldb: Provide ddc symlink in connector's sysfs Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 10/22] drm/imx: imx-tve: " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 11/22] drm/vc4: Provide ddc symlink in connector sysfs directory Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 12/22] drm: zte: Provide ddc symlink in hdmi " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 13/22] drm: zte: Provide ddc symlink in vga " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 14/22] drm/tilcdc: Provide ddc symlink in " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 15/22] drm: sti: Provide ddc symlink in hdmi " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 16/22] drm/mgag200: Provide ddc symlink in " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 17/22] drm/ast: " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 18/22] drm/bridge: dumb-vga-dac: " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 19/22] drm/bridge: dw-hdmi: " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 20/22] drm/bridge: ti-tfp410: " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 21/22] drm/amdgpu: " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
     [not found]                       ` <5e355b8bec8fb3907566a741db8cc3e356246a32.1561735433.git.andrzej.p-ZGY8ohtN/8qB+jHODAdFcQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-02 20:54                         ` Alex Deucher
     [not found]                           ` <CADnq5_MrVoScVFgj3TP2Z+Ky8_32k=Cou5jebuMT5gE1+GZ0cA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-04 13:17                             ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
     [not found]                               ` <fc26ac17-dc18-f995-53cf-42b50754c916-ZGY8ohtN/8qB+jHODAdFcQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-05 20:17                                 ` Alex Deucher
2019-06-28 16:01                     ` [PATCH v3 22/22] drm/radeon: " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2019-07-02 20:56                       ` Alex Deucher
2019-06-28 16:45                     ` [PATCH v3 00/22] Associate ddc adapters with connectors Daniel Vetter
     [not found]                       ` <20190628164514.GS12905-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-02 15:08                         ` Emil Velikov
2019-07-02 15:08                         ` Emil Velikov
2019-07-02 15:08                         ` Emil Velikov
2019-07-02 15:08                         ` Emil Velikov
2019-06-28 16:11                   ` Laurent Pinchart
     [not found]                     ` <20190628161137.GH4779-N3hz7ZxfLydczECFQUw77jytWr6r+dGw0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-05  8:38                       ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
     [not found]                         ` <44f98134-bc8a-133a-b702-589f007b175e-ZGY8ohtN/8qB+jHODAdFcQ@public.gmane.org>
2019-07-05  8:39                           ` Laurent Pinchart

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