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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, mst@redhat.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 7/9] vhost: do not use RCU to synchronize MMU notifier with worker
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2019 09:04:16 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190806120416.GB11627__26936.0344785795$1565093067$gmane$org@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11b2a930-eae4-522c-4132-3f8a2da05666@redhat.com>

On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 12:20:45PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> 
> On 2019/8/2 下午8:46, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 05:40:07PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > This must be a proper barrier, like a spinlock, mutex, or
> > > > synchronize_rcu.
> > > 
> > > I start with synchronize_rcu() but both you and Michael raise some
> > > concern.
> > I've also idly wondered if calling synchronize_rcu() under the various
> > mm locks is a deadlock situation.
> 
> 
> Maybe, that's why I suggest to use vhost_work_flush() which is much
> lightweight can can achieve the same function. It can guarantee all previous
> work has been processed after vhost_work_flush() return.

If things are already running in a work, then yes, you can piggyback
on the existing spinlocks inside the workqueue and be Ok

However, if that work is doing any copy_from_user, then the flush
becomes dependent on swap and it won't work again...

> > > 1) spinlock: add lots of overhead on datapath, this leads 0 performance
> > > improvement.
> > I think the topic here is correctness not performance improvement> 
 
> But the whole series is to speed up vhost.

So? Starting with a whole bunch of crazy, possibly broken, locking and
claiming a performance win is not reasonable.

> Spinlock is correct but make the whole series meaningless consider it won't
> bring any performance improvement.

You can't invent a faster spinlock by opencoding some wild
scheme. There is nothing special about the usage here, it needs a
blocking lock, plain and simple.

Jason
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-08-06 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-31  8:46 [PATCH V2 0/9] Fixes for metadata accelreation Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 1/9] vhost: don't set uaddr for invalid address Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 2/9] vhost: validate MMU notifier registration Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 3/9] vhost: fix vhost map leak Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 4/9] vhost: reset invalidate_count in vhost_set_vring_num_addr() Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 12:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 13:29     ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 19:32       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 19:32       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 19:37         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-31 19:37         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-01  5:03         ` Jason Wang
2019-08-01  5:03         ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 13:29     ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 12:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 5/9] vhost: mark dirty pages during map uninit Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 6/9] vhost: don't do synchronize_rcu() in vhost_uninit_vq_maps() Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 7/9] vhost: do not use RCU to synchronize MMU notifier with worker Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:50   ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:50   ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 12:39   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 13:28     ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 13:28     ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 19:30       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 19:30       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-01  5:02         ` Jason Wang
2019-08-01  5:02         ` Jason Wang
2019-08-01 14:15           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-02  9:40             ` Jason Wang
2019-08-02 12:46               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-02 14:27                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-02 17:24                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-02 17:24                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-03 21:36                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-03 21:36                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-04  0:14                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-04  0:14                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-04  8:07                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-04  8:07                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  4:39                           ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  4:39                           ` Jason Wang
2019-08-06 11:53                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-06 11:53                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-06 13:36                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-06 13:40                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-06 13:40                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-06 13:36                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  4:36                   ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  4:41                     ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  6:40                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  8:24                         ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  8:24                         ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  6:40                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  4:41                     ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  6:30                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  6:30                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  8:22                       ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  8:22                       ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  4:36                   ` Jason Wang
2019-08-02 14:27                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  4:20                 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  4:20                 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-06 12:04                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-07  6:49                     ` Jason Wang
2019-08-07  6:49                     ` Jason Wang
2019-08-06 12:04                   ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2019-08-02 12:46               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-02 14:03               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  4:33                 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  4:33                   ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  6:28                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  6:28                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  8:21                     ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  8:21                     ` Jason Wang
2019-08-02 14:03               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-02  9:40             ` Jason Wang
2019-08-01 14:15           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 12:39   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 18:29   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-31 18:29   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-01  8:06     ` Jason Wang
2019-08-01  8:06     ` Jason Wang
2019-08-01  8:06       ` Jason Wang
2019-08-03 21:54       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-03 21:54       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05  8:18         ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05  8:18           ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 8/9] vhost: correctly set dirty pages in MMU notifiers callback Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` [PATCH V2 9/9] vhost: do not return -EAGIAN for non blocking invalidation too early Jason Wang
2019-07-31  8:46 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31  9:59   ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-31 10:05     ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 10:05     ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31  9:59   ` Stefano Garzarella

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