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From: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] xfs: push the grant head when the log head moves forward
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 09:46:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190912134606.GA33594@bfoster> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190910233858.GM16973@dread.disaster.area>

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 09:38:58AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 05:56:28AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 09:26:32AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > On Sat, Sep 07, 2019 at 11:10:50AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > > This is an instance of xfsaild going idle between the time this
> > > > new AIL push sets the target based on the iclog about to be
> > > > committed and AIL insertion of the associated log items,
> > > > reproduced via a bit of timing instrumentation.  Don't be
> > > > distracted by the timestamps or the fact that the LSNs do not
> > > > match because the log items in the AIL end up indexed by the start
> > > > lsn of the CIL checkpoint (whereas last_sync_lsn refers to the
> > > > commit record). The point is simply that xfsaild has completed a
> > > > push of a target that hasn't been inserted yet.
> > > 
> > > AFAICT, what you are showing requires delaying of the CIL push to the
> > > point it violates a fundamental assumption about commit sizes, which
> > > is why I largely think it's irrelevant.
> > > 
> > 
> > The CIL checkpoint size is an unrelated side effect of the test I
> > happened to use, not a fundamental cause of the problem it demonstrates.
> > Fixing CIL checkpoint size issues won't change anything. Here's a
> > different variant of the same problem with a small enough number of log
> > items such that background CIL pushing is not a factor:
> > 
> >        <...>-79670 [000] ...1 56126.015522: xfs_log_force: dev 253:4 lsn 0x0 caller xfs_log_worker+0x2f/0xf0 [xfs]
> > kworker/0:1H-220   [000] ...1 56126.030587: __xlog_grant_push_ail: 1596: threshold_lsn 0x1000032e4
> > 	...
> >        <...>-81293 [000] ...2 56126.032647: xfs_ail_delete: dev 253:4 lip 00000000cbe82125 old lsn 1/13026 new lsn 1/13026 type XFS_LI_INODE flags IN_AIL
> >        <...>-81633 [000] .... 56126.053544: xfsaild: 588: idle ->ail_target 0x1000032e4
> > kworker/0:1H-220   [000] ...2 56127.038835: xfs_ail_insert: dev 253:4 lip 00000000a44ab1ef old lsn 0/0 new lsn 1/13028 type XFS_LI_INODE flags IN_AIL
> > kworker/0:1H-220   [000] ...2 56127.038911: xfs_ail_insert: dev 253:4 lip 0000000028d2061f old lsn 0/0 new lsn 1/13028 type XFS_LI_INODE flags IN_AIL
> > 	....
> >
> > This sequence starts with one log item in the AIL and some number of
> > items in the CIL such that a checkpoint executes from the background log
> > worker. The worker forces the CIL and log I/O completion issues an AIL
> > push that is truncated by the recently updated ->l_last_sync_lsn due to
> > outstanding transaction reservation and small AIL size. This push races
> > with completion of a previous push that empties the AIL and iclog
> > callbacks insert log items for the current checkpoint at the LSN target
> > xfsaild just idled at.
> 
> I'm just not seeing what the problem here is. The behaviour you are
> describing has been around since day zero and doesn't require the
> addition of an ail push from iclog completion to trigger.  Prior to
> this series, it would be:
> 

A few days ago you said that if we're inserting log items before the
push target, "something is very wrong." Since this was what I was
concerned about, I attempted to manufacture the issue to demonstrate.
You suggested the first reproducer I came up with was a separate problem
(related to CIL size issues), so I came up with the one above to avoid
that distraction. Now you're telling me this has always happened and is
fine..

While I don't think this is quite accurate (more below), I do find this
reasoning somewhat amusing in that it essentially implies that this
patch itself is dubious. If this new AIL push is required to fix a real
issue, and this race is essentially manifest as implied, then this patch
can't possibly reliably fix the original problem. Anyways, that is
neither here nor there..

All of the details of this particular issue aside, I do think there's a
development process problem here. It shouldn't require an extended game
of whack-a-mole with this kind of inconsistent reasoning just to request
a trivial change to a patch (you also implied in a previous response it
was me wasting your time on this topic) that closes an obvious race and
otherwise has no negative effect. Someone is being unreasonable here and
I don't think it's me. More importantly, discussion of open issues
shouldn't be a race against the associated patch being merged. :/

> process 1	reservation	log completion	xfsaild
> <completes metadata IO>
>   xfs_ail_delete()
>     mlip_changed
>     xlog_assign_tail_lsn_locked()
>       ail empty, sets l_last_sync = 0x1000032e2
>     xfs_log_space_wake()
> 				xlog_state_do_callback
> 				  sets CALLBACK
> 				  sets last_sync_lsn to iclog head
> 				    -> 0x1000032e4
> 				  <drops icloglock, gets preempted>
> 		<wakes>
> 		xlog_grant_head_wait
> 		  free_bytes < need_bytes
> 		    xlog_grant_push_ail()
> 		      xlog_push_ail()
> 		        ->ail_target 0x1000032e4
> 		<sleeps>
> 						<wakes>
> 						sets prev target to 0x1000032e4
> 						sees empty AIL
> 						<sleeps>
> 				    <runs again>
> 				    runs callbacks
> 				      xfs_ail_insert(lsn = 0x1000032e4)
> 
> and now we have the AIL push thread asleep with items in it at the
> push threshold.  IOWs, what you describe has always been possible,
> and before the CIL was introduced this sort of thing happened quite
> a bit because iclog completions freed up much less space in the log
> than a CIL commit completion.
> 

I was suspicious that this could occur prior to this change but I hadn't
confirmed. The scenario documented above cannot occur because a push on
an empty AIL has no effect. The target doesn't move and the task isn't
woken. That said, I still suspect the race can occur with the current
code via between a grant head waiter, AIL emptying and iclog completion.

This just speaks to the frequency of the problem, though. I'm not
convinced it's something that happens "quite a bit" given the nature of
the 3-way race. I also don't agree that existence of a historical
problem somehow excuses introduction a new variant of the same problem.
Instead, if this patch exposes a historical problem that simply had no
noticeable impact to this point, we should probably look into whether it
needs fixing too.

> It's not a problem, however, because if we are out of transaction
> reservation space we must have transactions in progress, and as long
> as they make progress then the commit of each transaction will end
> up calling xlog_ungrant_log_space() to return the unused portion of
> the transaction reservation. That calls xfs_log_space_wake() to
> allow reservation waiters to try to make progress.
> 

Yes, this is why I don't see immediate side effects in the tests I've
run so far. The assumptions you're basing this off are not always true,
however. Particularly on smaller (<= 1GB) filesystems, it's relatively
easy to produce conditions where the entire reservation space is
consumed by open transactions that don't ultimately commit anything to
the log subsystem and thus generate no forward progress.

> If there's still not enough space reservation after the transaction
> in progress has released it's reservation, then it goes back to
> sleep. As long as we have active transactions in progress while
> there are transaction reservations waiting on reservation space,
> there will be a wakeup vector for the reservation independent of
> the CIL, iclogs and AIL behaviour.
> 

We do have clean transaction cancel and error scenarios, existing log
deadlock vectors, increasing reliance on long running transactions via
deferred ops, scrub, etc. Also consider the fact that open transactions
consume considerably more reservation than committed transactions on
average.

I'm not saying it's likely for a real world workload to consume the
entirety of log reservation space via open transactions and then release
it without filesystem modification (and then race with log I/O and AIL
emptying), but from the perspective of proving the existence of a bug
it's really not that difficult to produce. I've not seen a real world
workload that reproduces the problems fixed by any of these patches
either, but we still fix them.

> [ Yes, there was a bug here, in the case xfs_log_space_wake() did
> not issue a wakeup because of not enough space being availble and
> the push target was limited by the old log head location. i.e.
> nothing ever updated the push target to reflect the new log head and
> so the tail might never get moved now. That particular bug was fixed
> by a an earlier patch in the series, so we can ignore it here. ]
> 
> IOWs, if the AIL is empty, the CIL cannot consume more than 25% of
> the log space, and we have transactions waiting on log reservation
> space, then we must have enough transactions in progress to cover at
> least 75% of the log space. Completion of those transactions will
> wake waiters and, if necessary, push the AIL again to keep the log
> tail moving appropriately. This handles the AIL empty and "insert
> before target" situations you are concerned about just fine, as long
> as we have a guarantee of forwards progress. Bounding the CIL size
> provides that forwards progress guarantee for the CIL...
> 

I think you have some tunnel vision or something going on here with
regard to the higher level architectural view of how things are supposed
to operate in a normal running/steady state vs simply what can and
cannot happen in the code. I can't really tell why/how, but the only
suggestion I can make is to perhaps separate from this high level view
of things and take a closer look at the code. This is a simple code bug,
not some grand architectural flaw. The context here is way out of whack.
The repeated unrelated and overblown architectural assertions come off
as indication of lack of any real argument to allow this race to live.
There is simply no such guarantee of forward progress in all scenarios
that produce the conditions that can cause this race.

Yet another example:

           <...>-369   [002] ...2   220.055746: xfs_ail_insert: dev 253:4 lip 00000000ddb123f2 old lsn 0/0 new lsn 1/248 type XFS_LI_INODE flags IN_AIL
           <...>-27    [003] ...1   224.753110: xfs_log_force: dev 253:4 lsn 0x0 caller xfs_log_worker+0x2f/0xf0 [xfs]
           <...>-404   [003] ...1   224.775551: __xlog_grant_push_ail: 1596: threshold_lsn 0x1000000fa
     kworker/3:1-39    [003] ...2   224.777953: xfs_ail_delete: dev 253:4 lip 00000000ddb123f2 old lsn 1/248 new lsn 1/248 type XFS_LI_INODE flags IN_AIL
    xfsaild/dm-4-1034  [000] ....   224.797919: xfsaild: 588: idle ->ail_target 0x1000000fa
    kworker/3:1H-404   [003] ...2   225.841198: xfs_ail_insert: dev 253:4 lip 000000006845aeed old lsn 0/0 new lsn 1/250 type XFS_LI_INODE flags IN_AIL
     kworker/3:1-39    [003] ...1   254.962822: xfs_log_force: dev 253:4 lsn 0x0 caller xfs_log_worker+0x2f/0xf0 [xfs]
	...
     kworker/3:2-1920  [003] ...1  3759.291275: xfs_log_force: dev 253:4 lsn 0x0 caller xfs_log_worker+0x2f/0xf0 [xfs]


# cat /sys/fs/xfs/dm-4/log/log_*lsn
1:252
1:250

This instance of the race uses the same serialization instrumentation to
control execution timing and whatnot as before (i.e. no functional
changes). First, an item is inserted into the AIL. Immediately after AIL
insertion, another transaction commits to the CIL (not shown in the
trace). The background log worker comes around a few seconds later and
forces the log/CIL. The checkpoint for this log force races with an AIL
delete and idle (same as before). AIL insertion occurs at the push
target xfsaild just idled at, but this time reservation pressure
relieves and the filesystem goes idle.

At this point, nothing occurs on the fs except for continuous background
log worker jobs. Note the timestamp difference between the first
post-race log force and the last in the trace. The log worker runs at
the default 30s interval and has run repeatedly for almost an hour while
failing to push the AIL and subsequently cover the log. To confirm the
AIL is populated, see the log head/tail LSNs reported via sysfs. This
state persists indefinitely so long as the fs is idle. This is a bug.

Brian

> Cheers,
> 
> Dave.
> -- 
> Dave Chinner
> david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-12 13:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-04  4:24 [PATCH 0/7] xfs: log race fixes and cleanups Dave Chinner
2019-09-04  4:24 ` [PATCH 1/7] xfs: push the AIL in xlog_grant_head_wake Dave Chinner
2019-09-04  6:07   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-09-04 21:46     ` Dave Chinner
2019-09-04  4:24 ` [PATCH 2/7] xfs: fix missed wakeup on l_flush_wait Dave Chinner
2019-09-04  6:07   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-09-04 21:47     ` Dave Chinner
2019-09-04  4:24 ` [PATCH 3/7] xfs: factor debug code out of xlog_state_do_callback() Dave Chinner
2019-09-04  6:10   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-09-04 21:14     ` Dave Chinner
2019-09-04  4:24 ` [PATCH 4/7] xfs: factor callbacks " Dave Chinner
2019-09-04  6:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-09-04  6:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-09-04 21:22     ` Dave Chinner
2019-09-04  4:24 ` [PATCH 5/7] xfs: factor iclog state processing " Dave Chinner
2019-09-04  6:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-09-04 21:43     ` Dave Chinner
2019-09-04  4:24 ` [PATCH 6/7] xfs: push iclog state cleaning into xlog_state_clean_log Dave Chinner
2019-09-04  6:44   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-09-04  4:24 ` [PATCH 7/7] xfs: push the grant head when the log head moves forward Dave Chinner
2019-09-04  6:45   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-09-04 21:49     ` Dave Chinner
2019-09-04 19:34   ` Brian Foster
2019-09-04 22:50     ` Dave Chinner
2019-09-05 16:25       ` Brian Foster
2019-09-06  0:02         ` Dave Chinner
2019-09-06 13:10           ` Brian Foster
2019-09-07 15:10             ` Brian Foster
2019-09-08 23:26               ` Dave Chinner
2019-09-10  9:56                 ` Brian Foster
2019-09-10 23:38                   ` Dave Chinner
2019-09-12 13:46                     ` Brian Foster [this message]
2019-09-17  4:31                       ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-09-17 12:48                         ` Brian Foster
2019-09-24 17:16                           ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-09-26 13:19                             ` Brian Foster
2019-09-04  5:26 ` [PATCH 0/7] xfs: log race fixes and cleanups Christoph Hellwig
2019-09-04  5:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-09-04 22:57     ` Dave Chinner
     [not found]       ` <20190905065133.GA21840@infradead.org>
2019-09-05  7:10         ` Dave Chinner
2019-09-05  7:28           ` Dave Chinner

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