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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>
Cc: Jordan Crouse <jcrouse@codeaurora.org>,
	linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"list@263.net:IOMMU DRIVERS <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"moderated list:ARM/FREESCALE IMX / MXC ARM ARCHITECTURE" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/6] arm/smmu: Add auxiliary domain support for arm-smmuv2
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 16:18:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200518151838.GL32394@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF6AEGu-hj6=3rsCe5XeBq_ffoq9VFmL+ycrQ8N=iv89DZf=8Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 04:43:07PM -0700, Rob Clark wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 3:48 PM Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 03:16:06PM -0700, Jordan Crouse wrote:
> > > Support auxiliary domains for arm-smmu-v2 to initialize and support
> > > multiple pagetables for a single SMMU context bank. Since the smmu-v2
> > > hardware doesn't have any built in support for switching the pagetable
> > > base it is left as an exercise to the caller to actually use the pagetable.
> > >
> > > Aux domains are supported if split pagetable (TTBR1) support has been
> > > enabled on the master domain.  Each auxiliary domain will reuse the
> > > configuration of the master domain. By default the a domain with TTBR1
> > > support will have the TTBR0 region disabled so the first attached aux
> > > domain will enable the TTBR0 region in the hardware and conversely the
> > > last domain to be detached will disable TTBR0 translations.  All subsequent
> > > auxiliary domains create a pagetable but not touch the hardware.
> > >
> > > The leaf driver will be able to query the physical address of the
> > > pagetable with the DOMAIN_ATTR_PTBASE attribute so that it can use the
> > > address with whatever means it has to switch the pagetable base.
> > >
> > > Following is a pseudo code example of how a domain can be created
> > >
> > >  /* Check to see if aux domains are supported */
> > >  if (iommu_dev_has_feature(dev, IOMMU_DEV_FEAT_AUX)) {
> > >        iommu = iommu_domain_alloc(...);
> > >
> > >        if (iommu_aux_attach_device(domain, dev))
> > >                return FAIL;
> > >
> > >       /* Save the base address of the pagetable for use by the driver
> > >       iommu_domain_get_attr(domain, DOMAIN_ATTR_PTBASE, &ptbase);
> > >  }
> >
> > I'm not really understanding what the pagetable base gets used for here and,
> > to be honest with you, the whole thing feels like a huge layering violation
> > with the way things are structured today. Why doesn't the caller just
> > interface with io-pgtable directly?
> >
> > Finally, if we need to support context-switching TTBR0 for a live domain
> > then that code really needs to live inside the SMMU driver because the
> > ASID and TLB management necessary to do that safely doesn't belong anywhere
> > else.
> 
> We do in fact need live domain switching, that is really the whole
> point.  The GPU CP (command processor/parser) is directly updating
> TTBR0 and triggering TLB flush, asynchronously from the CPU.
> 
> And I think the answer about ASID is easy (on current hw).. it must be zero[*].

Using ASID zero is really bad, because it means that you will end up sharing
TLB entries with whichever device is using context bank 0.

Is the SMMU only used by the GPU in your SoC?

Will

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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"list@263.net:IOMMU DRIVERS <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	" <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"moderated list:ARM/FREESCALE IMX / MXC ARM ARCHITECTURE"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/6] arm/smmu: Add auxiliary domain support for arm-smmuv2
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 16:18:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200518151838.GL32394@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF6AEGu-hj6=3rsCe5XeBq_ffoq9VFmL+ycrQ8N=iv89DZf=8Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 04:43:07PM -0700, Rob Clark wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 3:48 PM Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 03:16:06PM -0700, Jordan Crouse wrote:
> > > Support auxiliary domains for arm-smmu-v2 to initialize and support
> > > multiple pagetables for a single SMMU context bank. Since the smmu-v2
> > > hardware doesn't have any built in support for switching the pagetable
> > > base it is left as an exercise to the caller to actually use the pagetable.
> > >
> > > Aux domains are supported if split pagetable (TTBR1) support has been
> > > enabled on the master domain.  Each auxiliary domain will reuse the
> > > configuration of the master domain. By default the a domain with TTBR1
> > > support will have the TTBR0 region disabled so the first attached aux
> > > domain will enable the TTBR0 region in the hardware and conversely the
> > > last domain to be detached will disable TTBR0 translations.  All subsequent
> > > auxiliary domains create a pagetable but not touch the hardware.
> > >
> > > The leaf driver will be able to query the physical address of the
> > > pagetable with the DOMAIN_ATTR_PTBASE attribute so that it can use the
> > > address with whatever means it has to switch the pagetable base.
> > >
> > > Following is a pseudo code example of how a domain can be created
> > >
> > >  /* Check to see if aux domains are supported */
> > >  if (iommu_dev_has_feature(dev, IOMMU_DEV_FEAT_AUX)) {
> > >        iommu = iommu_domain_alloc(...);
> > >
> > >        if (iommu_aux_attach_device(domain, dev))
> > >                return FAIL;
> > >
> > >       /* Save the base address of the pagetable for use by the driver
> > >       iommu_domain_get_attr(domain, DOMAIN_ATTR_PTBASE, &ptbase);
> > >  }
> >
> > I'm not really understanding what the pagetable base gets used for here and,
> > to be honest with you, the whole thing feels like a huge layering violation
> > with the way things are structured today. Why doesn't the caller just
> > interface with io-pgtable directly?
> >
> > Finally, if we need to support context-switching TTBR0 for a live domain
> > then that code really needs to live inside the SMMU driver because the
> > ASID and TLB management necessary to do that safely doesn't belong anywhere
> > else.
> 
> We do in fact need live domain switching, that is really the whole
> point.  The GPU CP (command processor/parser) is directly updating
> TTBR0 and triggering TLB flush, asynchronously from the CPU.
> 
> And I think the answer about ASID is easy (on current hw).. it must be zero[*].

Using ASID zero is really bad, because it means that you will end up sharing
TLB entries with whichever device is using context bank 0.

Is the SMMU only used by the GPU in your SoC?

Will
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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"list@263.net:IOMMU DRIVERS <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	" <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Jordan Crouse <jcrouse@codeaurora.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"moderated list:ARM/FREESCALE IMX / MXC ARM ARCHITECTURE"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/6] arm/smmu: Add auxiliary domain support for arm-smmuv2
Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 16:18:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200518151838.GL32394@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF6AEGu-hj6=3rsCe5XeBq_ffoq9VFmL+ycrQ8N=iv89DZf=8Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 04:43:07PM -0700, Rob Clark wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 3:48 PM Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 03:16:06PM -0700, Jordan Crouse wrote:
> > > Support auxiliary domains for arm-smmu-v2 to initialize and support
> > > multiple pagetables for a single SMMU context bank. Since the smmu-v2
> > > hardware doesn't have any built in support for switching the pagetable
> > > base it is left as an exercise to the caller to actually use the pagetable.
> > >
> > > Aux domains are supported if split pagetable (TTBR1) support has been
> > > enabled on the master domain.  Each auxiliary domain will reuse the
> > > configuration of the master domain. By default the a domain with TTBR1
> > > support will have the TTBR0 region disabled so the first attached aux
> > > domain will enable the TTBR0 region in the hardware and conversely the
> > > last domain to be detached will disable TTBR0 translations.  All subsequent
> > > auxiliary domains create a pagetable but not touch the hardware.
> > >
> > > The leaf driver will be able to query the physical address of the
> > > pagetable with the DOMAIN_ATTR_PTBASE attribute so that it can use the
> > > address with whatever means it has to switch the pagetable base.
> > >
> > > Following is a pseudo code example of how a domain can be created
> > >
> > >  /* Check to see if aux domains are supported */
> > >  if (iommu_dev_has_feature(dev, IOMMU_DEV_FEAT_AUX)) {
> > >        iommu = iommu_domain_alloc(...);
> > >
> > >        if (iommu_aux_attach_device(domain, dev))
> > >                return FAIL;
> > >
> > >       /* Save the base address of the pagetable for use by the driver
> > >       iommu_domain_get_attr(domain, DOMAIN_ATTR_PTBASE, &ptbase);
> > >  }
> >
> > I'm not really understanding what the pagetable base gets used for here and,
> > to be honest with you, the whole thing feels like a huge layering violation
> > with the way things are structured today. Why doesn't the caller just
> > interface with io-pgtable directly?
> >
> > Finally, if we need to support context-switching TTBR0 for a live domain
> > then that code really needs to live inside the SMMU driver because the
> > ASID and TLB management necessary to do that safely doesn't belong anywhere
> > else.
> 
> We do in fact need live domain switching, that is really the whole
> point.  The GPU CP (command processor/parser) is directly updating
> TTBR0 and triggering TLB flush, asynchronously from the CPU.
> 
> And I think the answer about ASID is easy (on current hw).. it must be zero[*].

Using ASID zero is really bad, because it means that you will end up sharing
TLB entries with whichever device is using context bank 0.

Is the SMMU only used by the GPU in your SoC?

Will

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-18 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-28 22:16 [PATCH v1 0/6] iommu/arm-smmu: Auxiliary domain and per instance pagetables Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16 ` Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16 ` Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16 ` Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16 ` [PATCH v1 1/6] iommu: Add DOMAIN_ATTR_PTBASE Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16 ` [PATCH v1 2/6] arm/smmu: Add auxiliary domain support for arm-smmuv2 Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2020-03-18 22:48   ` Will Deacon
2020-03-18 22:48     ` Will Deacon
2020-03-18 22:48     ` Will Deacon
2020-03-18 23:43     ` Rob Clark
2020-03-18 23:43       ` Rob Clark
2020-03-18 23:43       ` Rob Clark
2020-03-19 15:23       ` Jordan Crouse
2020-03-19 15:23         ` Jordan Crouse
2020-03-19 15:23         ` Jordan Crouse
2020-05-18 15:18       ` Will Deacon [this message]
2020-05-18 15:18         ` Will Deacon
2020-05-18 15:18         ` Will Deacon
2020-05-18 15:50         ` Rob Clark
2020-05-18 15:50           ` Rob Clark
2020-05-18 15:50           ` Rob Clark
2020-05-20 12:57           ` Will Deacon
2020-05-20 12:57             ` Will Deacon
2020-05-20 12:57             ` Will Deacon
2020-05-20 15:13             ` Jordan Crouse
2020-05-20 15:13               ` Jordan Crouse
2020-05-20 15:13               ` Jordan Crouse
2020-05-20 16:35               ` Rob Clark
2020-05-20 16:35                 ` Rob Clark
2020-05-20 16:35                 ` Rob Clark
2020-01-28 22:16 ` [PATCH v1 3/6] drm/msm/adreno: ADd support for IOMMU auxiliary domains Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16 ` [PATCH v1 4/6] drm/msm: Add support to create target specific address spaces Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16 ` [PATCH v1 5/6] drm/msm/gpu: Add ttbr0 to the memptrs Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16 ` [PATCH v1 6/6] drm/msm/a6xx: Support per-instance pagetables Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16   ` Jordan Crouse
2020-01-28 22:16   ` Jordan Crouse

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