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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, borntraeger@de.ibm.com,
	frankja@linux.ibm.com, mst@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	thomas.lendacky@amd.com, david@gibson.dropbear.id.au,
	linuxram@us.ibm.com, heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com,
	gor@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/1] s390: virtio: let arch accept devices without IOMMU feature
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 15:44:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200629154439.14cc5ae7.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7fe6e9ab-fd5a-3f92-1f3a-f9e6805d3730@linux.ibm.com>

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 15:14:04 +0200
Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com> wrote:

> On 2020-06-19 11:20, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 00:29:56 +0200
> > Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 12:43:57 +0200
> >> Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com> wrote:  

> >>> @@ -179,6 +194,13 @@ int virtio_finalize_features(struct virtio_device *dev)
> >>>   	if (!virtio_has_feature(dev, VIRTIO_F_VERSION_1))
> >>>   		return 0;
> >>>   
> >>> +	if (arch_needs_virtio_iommu_platform(dev) &&
> >>> +		!virtio_has_feature(dev, VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM)) {
> >>> +		dev_warn(&dev->dev,
> >>> +			 "virtio: device must provide VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM\n");  

[Side note: wasn't there a patch renaming this bit on the list? I think
this name is only kept for userspace compat.]

> >>
> >> I'm not sure, divulging the current Linux name of this feature bit is a
> >> good idea, but if everybody else is fine with this, I don't care that  
> > 
> > Not sure if that feature name will ever change, as it is exported in
> > headers. At most, we might want to add the new ACCESS_PLATFORM define
> > and keep the old one, but that would still mean some churn.
> >   
> >> much. An alternative would be:
> >> "virtio: device falsely claims to have full access to the memory,
> >> aborting the device"  
> > 
> > "virtio: device does not work with limited memory access" ?
> > 
> > But no issue with keeping the current message.
> >   
> 
> If it is OK, I would like to specify that the arch is responsible to 
> accept or not the device.
> The reason why the device is not accepted without IOMMU_PLATFORM is arch 
> specific.

Hm, I'd think the reason is always the same (the device cannot access
the memory directly), just the way to figure out whether that is the
case or not is arch-specific, as with so many other things. No real
need to go into detail here, I think.


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: gor@linux.ibm.com, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	frankja@linux.ibm.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org, mst@redhat.com,
	heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, linuxram@us.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
	borntraeger@de.ibm.com, thomas.lendacky@amd.com,
	david@gibson.dropbear.id.au
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/1] s390: virtio: let arch accept devices without IOMMU feature
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 15:44:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200629154439.14cc5ae7.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7fe6e9ab-fd5a-3f92-1f3a-f9e6805d3730@linux.ibm.com>

On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 15:14:04 +0200
Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com> wrote:

> On 2020-06-19 11:20, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 00:29:56 +0200
> > Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 12:43:57 +0200
> >> Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com> wrote:  

> >>> @@ -179,6 +194,13 @@ int virtio_finalize_features(struct virtio_device *dev)
> >>>   	if (!virtio_has_feature(dev, VIRTIO_F_VERSION_1))
> >>>   		return 0;
> >>>   
> >>> +	if (arch_needs_virtio_iommu_platform(dev) &&
> >>> +		!virtio_has_feature(dev, VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM)) {
> >>> +		dev_warn(&dev->dev,
> >>> +			 "virtio: device must provide VIRTIO_F_IOMMU_PLATFORM\n");  

[Side note: wasn't there a patch renaming this bit on the list? I think
this name is only kept for userspace compat.]

> >>
> >> I'm not sure, divulging the current Linux name of this feature bit is a
> >> good idea, but if everybody else is fine with this, I don't care that  
> > 
> > Not sure if that feature name will ever change, as it is exported in
> > headers. At most, we might want to add the new ACCESS_PLATFORM define
> > and keep the old one, but that would still mean some churn.
> >   
> >> much. An alternative would be:
> >> "virtio: device falsely claims to have full access to the memory,
> >> aborting the device"  
> > 
> > "virtio: device does not work with limited memory access" ?
> > 
> > But no issue with keeping the current message.
> >   
> 
> If it is OK, I would like to specify that the arch is responsible to 
> accept or not the device.
> The reason why the device is not accepted without IOMMU_PLATFORM is arch 
> specific.

Hm, I'd think the reason is always the same (the device cannot access
the memory directly), just the way to figure out whether that is the
case or not is arch-specific, as with so many other things. No real
need to go into detail here, I think.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-29 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-17 10:43 [PATCH v3 0/1] s390: virtio: let arch choose to accept devices without IOMMU feature Pierre Morel
2020-06-17 10:43 ` [PATCH v3 1/1] s390: virtio: let arch " Pierre Morel
2020-06-17 11:22   ` Heiko Carstens
2020-06-17 11:59     ` Pierre Morel
2020-06-17 13:36   ` Tom Lendacky
2020-06-17 14:12     ` Pierre Morel
2020-06-17 22:29   ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-19  9:20     ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-19 12:02       ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-19 12:02         ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-29 13:15         ` Pierre Morel
2020-06-29 13:15           ` Pierre Morel
2020-06-29 13:14       ` Pierre Morel
2020-06-29 13:14         ` Pierre Morel
2020-06-29 13:44         ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2020-06-29 13:44           ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-29 16:10           ` Pierre Morel
2020-06-29 16:10             ` Pierre Morel
2020-06-29 13:21     ` Pierre Morel
2020-06-29 13:21       ` Pierre Morel
2020-06-29 15:57   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-06-29 15:57     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-06-29 16:05     ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-29 16:05       ` Cornelia Huck
2020-07-02 13:03       ` Pierre Morel
2020-07-06 13:37         ` Pierre Morel
2020-07-06 14:33           ` Cornelia Huck
2020-07-06 15:01             ` Pierre Morel
2020-06-29 16:09     ` Pierre Morel
2020-06-29 16:09       ` Pierre Morel
2020-06-29 16:09   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-06-29 16:09     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-06-29 16:48     ` Pierre Morel
2020-06-29 16:48       ` Pierre Morel
2020-06-29 21:18       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-06-29 21:18         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-06-30  7:08         ` Cornelia Huck

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