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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Goldwyn Rodrigues <rgoldwyn@suse.de>,
	Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@wdc.com>,
	Naohiro Aota <naohiro.aota@wdc.com>,
	Johannes Thumshirn <jth@kernel.org>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	cluster-devel@redhat.com, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] iomap: fall back to buffered writes for invalidation failures
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 13:00:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200714110011.GB16178@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200713115509.GW12769@casper.infradead.org>

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 12:55:09PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 09:46:33AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > Failing to invalid the page cache means data in incoherent, which is
> > a very bad state for the system.  Always fall back to buffered I/O
> > through the page cache if we can't invalidate mappings.
> 
> Is that the right approach though?  I don't have a full picture in my head,
> but wouldn't we be better off marking these pages as !Uptodate and doing
> the direct I/O?

Isn't that a problem if e.g. pages are mapped into userspace and mlocked?

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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: cluster-devel.redhat.com
Subject: [Cluster-devel] [PATCH 2/2] iomap: fall back to buffered writes for invalidation failures
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 13:00:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200714110011.GB16178@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200713115509.GW12769@casper.infradead.org>

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 12:55:09PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 09:46:33AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > Failing to invalid the page cache means data in incoherent, which is
> > a very bad state for the system.  Always fall back to buffered I/O
> > through the page cache if we can't invalidate mappings.
> 
> Is that the right approach though?  I don't have a full picture in my head,
> but wouldn't we be better off marking these pages as !Uptodate and doing
> the direct I/O?

Isn't that a problem if e.g. pages are mapped into userspace and mlocked?



  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-14 11:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-13  7:46 RFC: iomap write invalidation Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-13  7:46 ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-13  7:46 ` [PATCH 1/2] iomap: Only invalidate page cache pages on direct IO writes Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-13  7:46   ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-13  7:46 ` [PATCH 2/2] iomap: fall back to buffered writes for invalidation failures Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-13  7:46   ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-13 11:55   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-13 11:55     ` [Cluster-devel] " Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-14 11:00     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2020-07-14 11:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-13 12:20   ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2020-07-13 12:20     ` [Cluster-devel] " Goldwyn Rodrigues
2020-07-13 16:09     ` David Sterba
2020-07-13 16:09       ` [Cluster-devel] " David Sterba
2020-07-13 15:39   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-07-13 15:39     ` [Cluster-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2020-07-14 11:00     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-14 11:00       ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-14  1:41   ` Damien Le Moal
2020-07-14  1:41     ` [Cluster-devel] " Damien Le Moal
2020-07-15  1:47 ` RFC: iomap write invalidation Dave Chinner
2020-07-15  1:47   ` [Cluster-devel] " Dave Chinner
2020-07-20 21:51 ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2020-07-20 21:51   ` [Cluster-devel] " Goldwyn Rodrigues
2020-07-21 14:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-21 14:53     ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-21 14:59     ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-07-21 14:59       ` [Cluster-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2020-07-21 15:04     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-21 15:04       ` [Cluster-devel] " Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-21 15:06       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-21 15:06         ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-21 15:14         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-21 15:14           ` [Cluster-devel] " Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-21 15:16           ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-21 15:16             ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-21 15:27             ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-07-21 15:27               ` [Cluster-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2020-07-21 15:41               ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-21 15:41                 ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-21 15:59                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-07-21 15:59                   ` [Cluster-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2020-07-21 16:01                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-21 16:01                     ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-21 16:05                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-07-21 16:05                       ` [Cluster-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2020-07-21 15:31             ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-21 15:31               ` [Cluster-devel] " Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-21 15:42               ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-21 15:42                 ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-21 15:52                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-21 15:52                   ` [Cluster-devel] " Matthew Wilcox
2020-07-21 16:03                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-07-21 16:03                     ` [Cluster-devel] " Darrick J. Wong

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