From: Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.pizza>
To: YiFei Zhu <zhuyifei1999@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Giuseppe Scrivano <gscrivan@redhat.com>,
Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, YiFei Zhu <yifeifz2@illinois.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum <tobin@ibm.com>,
Hubertus Franke <frankeh@us.ibm.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Valentin Rothberg <vrothber@redhat.com>,
Dimitrios Skarlatos <dskarlat@cs.cmu.edu>,
Jack Chen <jianyan2@illinois.edu>,
Josep Torrellas <torrella@illinois.edu>,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, Tianyin Xu <tyxu@illinois.edu>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH seccomp 0/2] seccomp: Add bitmap cache of arg-independent filter results that allow syscalls
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 10:39:16 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200921163916.GE3794348@cisco> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABqSeASEw=Qr2CroKEpTyWMRXQkamKVUzXiEe2UsoQTCcv_99A@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 10:27:56AM -0500, YiFei Zhu wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 8:51 AM Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.pizza> wrote:
> > One problem with a kernel config setting is that it's for all tasks.
> > While docker and systemd may make decsisions based on syscall number,
> > other applications may have more nuanced filters, and this cache would
> > yield incorrect results.
> >
> > You could work around this by making this a filter flag instead;
> > filter authors would generally know whether their filter results can
> > be cached and probably be motivated to opt in if their users are
> > complaining about slow syscall execution.
> >
> > Tycho
>
> Yielding incorrect results should not be possible. The purpose of the
> "emulator" (for the lack of a better term) is to determine whether the
> filter reads any syscall arguments. A read from a syscall argument
> must go through the BPF_LD | BPF_ABS instruction, where the 32 bit
> multiuse field "k" is an offset to struct seccomp_data.
I see, I missed this somehow. So is there a reason to hide this behind
a config option? Isn't it just always better?
Tycho
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From: Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.pizza>
To: YiFei Zhu <zhuyifei1999@gmail.com>
Cc: Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Giuseppe Scrivano <gscrivan@redhat.com>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
YiFei Zhu <yifeifz2@illinois.edu>,
Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum <tobin@ibm.com>,
Dimitrios Skarlatos <dskarlat@cs.cmu.edu>,
Valentin Rothberg <vrothber@redhat.com>,
Hubertus Franke <frankeh@us.ibm.com>,
Jack Chen <jianyan2@illinois.edu>,
Josep Torrellas <torrella@illinois.edu>,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, Tianyin Xu <tyxu@illinois.edu>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH seccomp 0/2] seccomp: Add bitmap cache of arg-independent filter results that allow syscalls
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2020 10:39:16 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200921163916.GE3794348@cisco> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABqSeASEw=Qr2CroKEpTyWMRXQkamKVUzXiEe2UsoQTCcv_99A@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 10:27:56AM -0500, YiFei Zhu wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 8:51 AM Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.pizza> wrote:
> > One problem with a kernel config setting is that it's for all tasks.
> > While docker and systemd may make decsisions based on syscall number,
> > other applications may have more nuanced filters, and this cache would
> > yield incorrect results.
> >
> > You could work around this by making this a filter flag instead;
> > filter authors would generally know whether their filter results can
> > be cached and probably be motivated to opt in if their users are
> > complaining about slow syscall execution.
> >
> > Tycho
>
> Yielding incorrect results should not be possible. The purpose of the
> "emulator" (for the lack of a better term) is to determine whether the
> filter reads any syscall arguments. A read from a syscall argument
> must go through the BPF_LD | BPF_ABS instruction, where the 32 bit
> multiuse field "k" is an offset to struct seccomp_data.
I see, I missed this somehow. So is there a reason to hide this behind
a config option? Isn't it just always better?
Tycho
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2020-09-21 5:35 [RFC PATCH seccomp 0/2] seccomp: Add bitmap cache of arg-independent filter results that allow syscalls YiFei Zhu
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2020-09-21 5:35 ` [RFC PATCH seccomp 1/2] seccomp/cache: Add "emulator" to check if filter is arg-dependent YiFei Zhu
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2020-09-21 23:44 ` YiFei Zhu
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2020-09-22 0:25 ` Jann Horn via Containers
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2020-09-22 0:47 ` YiFei Zhu
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2020-09-21 5:35 ` [RFC PATCH seccomp 2/2] seccomp/cache: Cache filter results that allow syscalls YiFei Zhu
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2020-09-21 18:08 ` Jann Horn via Containers
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2020-09-21 22:50 ` YiFei Zhu
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2020-09-21 23:08 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-21 23:08 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-25 0:01 ` [PATCH v2 seccomp 2/6] asm/syscall.h: Add syscall_arches[] array Kees Cook
2020-09-25 0:01 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-25 0:15 ` Jann Horn via Containers
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2020-09-25 0:18 ` Al Viro
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2020-09-25 0:24 ` Jann Horn via Containers
2020-09-25 0:24 ` Jann Horn
2020-09-25 1:27 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-25 1:27 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-25 3:09 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-25 3:09 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-25 3:28 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-25 3:28 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-25 16:39 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-25 16:39 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-21 5:48 ` [RFC PATCH seccomp 0/2] seccomp: Add bitmap cache of arg-independent filter results that allow syscalls Sargun Dhillon
2020-09-21 5:48 ` Sargun Dhillon
2020-09-21 7:13 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-21 7:13 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-21 8:30 ` Christian Brauner
2020-09-21 8:30 ` Christian Brauner
2020-09-21 8:44 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-21 8:44 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-21 13:51 ` Tycho Andersen
2020-09-21 13:51 ` Tycho Andersen
2020-09-21 15:27 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-21 15:27 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-21 16:39 ` Tycho Andersen [this message]
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2020-09-21 22:57 ` YiFei Zhu
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2020-09-21 19:35 ` Hubertus Franke
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2020-09-23 19:26 ` Kees Cook
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2020-09-23 22:54 ` YiFei Zhu
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2020-09-24 6:52 ` Kees Cook
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2020-09-24 12:06 ` [PATCH seccomp 1/6] seccomp: Move config option SECCOMP to arch/Kconfig YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:06 ` YiFei Zhu
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2020-09-24 12:06 ` [PATCH seccomp 2/6] asm/syscall.h: Add syscall_arches[] array YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:06 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:06 ` [PATCH seccomp 3/6] seccomp/cache: Add "emulator" to check if filter is arg-dependent YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:06 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:06 ` [PATCH seccomp 4/6] seccomp/cache: Lookup syscall allowlist for fast path YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:06 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:06 ` [PATCH seccomp 5/6] selftests/seccomp: Compare bitmap vs filter overhead YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:06 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:06 ` [PATCH seccomp 6/6] seccomp/cache: Report cache data through /proc/pid/seccomp_cache YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:06 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:44 ` [PATCH v2 seccomp 0/6] seccomp: Add bitmap cache of arg-independent filter results that allow syscalls YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:44 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:44 ` [PATCH v2 seccomp 1/6] seccomp: Move config option SECCOMP to arch/Kconfig YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:44 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 19:11 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-24 19:11 ` Kees Cook
2020-10-27 9:52 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-10-27 9:52 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-10-27 19:08 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-10-27 19:08 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-10-28 0:06 ` Kees Cook
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2020-10-28 8:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
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2020-10-28 9:34 ` Jann Horn
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2020-09-24 12:44 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 13:47 ` David Laight
2020-09-24 13:47 ` David Laight
2020-09-24 14:16 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 14:16 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 14:20 ` David Laight
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2020-09-24 14:37 ` YiFei Zhu
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2020-09-24 16:02 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 16:02 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:44 ` [PATCH v2 seccomp 3/6] seccomp/cache: Add "emulator" to check if filter is arg-dependent YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:44 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 23:25 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-24 23:25 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-25 3:04 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-25 3:04 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-25 16:45 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-25 16:45 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-25 19:42 ` Kees Cook
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2020-09-25 19:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
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2020-09-25 20:37 ` Kees Cook
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2020-09-25 21:07 ` Andy Lutomirski
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2020-09-25 23:49 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-25 23:49 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-26 0:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-26 0:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-26 1:23 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-26 1:23 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-26 2:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-26 2:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-09-26 4:35 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-26 4:35 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-24 12:44 ` [PATCH v2 seccomp 4/6] seccomp/cache: Lookup syscall allowlist for fast path YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:44 ` YiFei Zhu
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2020-09-24 23:46 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-25 1:55 ` YiFei Zhu
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2020-09-24 12:44 ` [PATCH v2 seccomp 5/6] selftests/seccomp: Compare bitmap vs filter overhead YiFei Zhu
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2020-09-24 23:47 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-25 1:35 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-25 1:35 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:44 ` [PATCH v2 seccomp 6/6] seccomp/cache: Report cache data through /proc/pid/seccomp_cache YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 12:44 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-24 23:56 ` Kees Cook
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2020-09-25 3:11 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-25 3:11 ` YiFei Zhu
2020-09-25 3:26 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-25 3:26 ` Kees Cook
2020-09-30 15:19 ` [PATCH v3 seccomp 0/5] seccomp: Add bitmap cache of constant allow filter results YiFei Zhu
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2020-09-30 15:19 ` [PATCH v3 seccomp 1/5] x86: Enable seccomp architecture tracking YiFei Zhu
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2020-10-11 15:47 ` [PATCH v5 seccomp 4/5] selftests/seccomp: Compare bitmap vs filter overhead YiFei Zhu
2020-10-11 15:47 ` YiFei Zhu
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