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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 0/9] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 11:29:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201124092919.GI8537@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXr-9ABs7rzXcCrh1VXn-15AfpwjA6bQA7aU9Ta7DR+bw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 07:28:22AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 1:54 AM Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is an implementation of "secret" mappings backed by a file descriptor.
> >
> > The file descriptor backing secret memory mappings is created using a
> > dedicated memfd_secret system call The desired protection mode for the
> > memory is configured using flags parameter of the system call. The mmap()
> > of the file descriptor created with memfd_secret() will create a "secret"
> > memory mapping. The pages in that mapping will be marked as not present in
> > the direct map and will have desired protection bits set in the user page
> > table. For instance, current implementation allows uncached mappings.
> 
> I'm still not ready to ACK uncached mappings on x86.  I'm fine with
> the concept of allowing privileged users to create UC memory on x86
> for testing and experimentation, but it's a big can of worms in
> general. 

Ok, let's move forward without UC. 

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.
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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK" 
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 0/9] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 11:29:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201124092919.GI8537@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXr-9ABs7rzXcCrh1VXn-15AfpwjA6bQA7aU9Ta7DR+bw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 07:28:22AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 1:54 AM Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is an implementation of "secret" mappings backed by a file descriptor.
> >
> > The file descriptor backing secret memory mappings is created using a
> > dedicated memfd_secret system call The desired protection mode for the
> > memory is configured using flags parameter of the system call. The mmap()
> > of the file descriptor created with memfd_secret() will create a "secret"
> > memory mapping. The pages in that mapping will be marked as not present in
> > the direct map and will have desired protection bits set in the user page
> > table. For instance, current implementation allows uncached mappings.
> 
> I'm still not ready to ACK uncached mappings on x86.  I'm fine with
> the concept of allowing privileged users to create UC memory on x86
> for testing and experimentation, but it's a big can of worms in
> general. 

Ok, let's move forward without UC. 

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.

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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK"
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 0/9] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 11:29:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201124092919.GI8537@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXr-9ABs7rzXcCrh1VXn-15AfpwjA6bQA7aU9Ta7DR+bw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 07:28:22AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 1:54 AM Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is an implementation of "secret" mappings backed by a file descriptor.
> >
> > The file descriptor backing secret memory mappings is created using a
> > dedicated memfd_secret system call The desired protection mode for the
> > memory is configured using flags parameter of the system call. The mmap()
> > of the file descriptor created with memfd_secret() will create a "secret"
> > memory mapping. The pages in that mapping will be marked as not present in
> > the direct map and will have desired protection bits set in the user page
> > table. For instance, current implementation allows uncached mappings.
> 
> I'm still not ready to ACK uncached mappings on x86.  I'm fine with
> the concept of allowing privileged users to create UC memory on x86
> for testing and experimentation, but it's a big can of worms in
> general. 

Ok, let's move forward without UC. 

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.

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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK"
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 0/9] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 11:29:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201124092919.GI8537@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXr-9ABs7rzXcCrh1VXn-15AfpwjA6bQA7aU9Ta7DR+bw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 07:28:22AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 1:54 AM Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is an implementation of "secret" mappings backed by a file descriptor.
> >
> > The file descriptor backing secret memory mappings is created using a
> > dedicated memfd_secret system call The desired protection mode for the
> > memory is configured using flags parameter of the system call. The mmap()
> > of the file descriptor created with memfd_secret() will create a "secret"
> > memory mapping. The pages in that mapping will be marked as not present in
> > the direct map and will have desired protection bits set in the user page
> > table. For instance, current implementation allows uncached mappings.
> 
> I'm still not ready to ACK uncached mappings on x86.  I'm fine with
> the concept of allowing privileged users to create UC memory on x86
> for testing and experimentation, but it's a big can of worms in
> general. 

Ok, let's move forward without UC. 

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK"
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 0/9] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 11:29:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201124092919.GI8537@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXr-9ABs7rzXcCrh1VXn-15AfpwjA6bQA7aU9Ta7DR+bw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 07:28:22AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 1:54 AM Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is an implementation of "secret" mappings backed by a file descriptor.
> >
> > The file descriptor backing secret memory mappings is created using a
> > dedicated memfd_secret system call The desired protection mode for the
> > memory is configured using flags parameter of the system call. The mmap()
> > of the file descriptor created with memfd_secret() will create a "secret"
> > memory mapping. The pages in that mapping will be marked as not present in
> > the direct map and will have desired protection bits set in the user page
> > table. For instance, current implementation allows uncached mappings.
> 
> I'm still not ready to ACK uncached mappings on x86.  I'm fine with
> the concept of allowing privileged users to create UC memory on x86
> for testing and experimentation, but it's a big can of worms in
> general. 

Ok, let's move forward without UC. 

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.

_______________________________________________
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-24  9:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-23  9:54 [PATCH v10 0/9] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54 ` [PATCH v10 1/9] mm: add definition of PMD_PAGE_ORDER Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54 ` [PATCH v10 2/9] mmap: make mlock_future_check() global Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54 ` [PATCH v10 3/9] set_memory: allow set_direct_map_*_noflush() for multiple pages Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54 ` [PATCH v10 4/9] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54 ` [PATCH v10 5/9] secretmem: use PMD-size pages to amortize direct map fragmentation Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54 ` [PATCH v10 6/9] secretmem: add memcg accounting Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54 ` [PATCH v10 7/9] PM: hibernate: disable when there are active secretmem users Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54 ` [PATCH v10 8/9] arch, mm: wire up memfd_secret system call were relevant Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23 11:39   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-23 11:39     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-23 11:39     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-23 11:39     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-23  9:54 ` [PATCH v10 9/9] secretmem: test: add basic selftest for memfd_secret(2) Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23  9:54   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-23 15:28 ` [PATCH v10 0/9] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-23 15:28   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-23 15:28   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-23 15:28   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-23 15:28   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-11-24  9:29   ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2020-11-24  9:29     ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-24  9:29     ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-24  9:29     ` Mike Rapoport
2020-11-24  9:29     ` Mike Rapoport

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