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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: brijesh.singh@amd.com, pair@us.ibm.com, dgilbert@redhat.com,
	pasic@linux.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	borntraeger@de.ibm.com,
	Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	mst@redhat.com, jun.nakajima@intel.com, thuth@redhat.com,
	pragyansri.pathi@intel.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org,
	frankja@linux.ibm.com, Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>,
	mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com, berrange@redhat.com,
	andi.kleen@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 03/13] sev: Remove false abstraction of flash encryption
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 13:59:15 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210118025915.GF2089552@yekko.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210115135425.7fd94aed.cohuck@redhat.com>

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On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 01:54:25PM +0100, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 10:58:01 +1100
> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
> 
> > When AMD's SEV memory encryption is in use, flash memory banks (which are
> > initialed by pc_system_flash_map()) need to be encrypted with the guest's
> > key, so that the guest can read them.
> > 
> > That's abstracted via the kvm_memcrypt_encrypt_data() callback in the KVM
> > state.. except, that it doesn't really abstract much at all.
> > 
> > For starters, the only called is in code specific to the 'pc' family of
> 
> s/called/call site/

Fixed, thanks.

> 
> > machine types, so it's obviously specific to those and to x86 to begin
> > with.  But it makes a bunch of further assumptions that need not be true
> > about an arbitrary confidential guest system based on memory encryption,
> > let alone one based on other mechanisms:
> > 
> >  * it assumes that the flash memory is defined to be encrypted with the
> >    guest key, rather than being shared with hypervisor
> >  * it assumes that that hypervisor has some mechanism to encrypt data into
> >    the guest, even though it can't decrypt it out, since that's the whole
> >    point
> >  * the interface assumes that this encrypt can be done in place, which
> >    implies that the hypervisor can write into a confidential guests's
> >    memory, even if what it writes isn't meaningful
> > 
> > So really, this "abstraction" is actually pretty specific to the way SEV
> > works.  So, this patch removes it and instead has the PC flash
> > initialization code call into a SEV specific callback.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
> > ---
> >  accel/kvm/kvm-all.c    | 31 ++-----------------------------
> >  accel/kvm/sev-stub.c   |  9 ++-------
> >  accel/stubs/kvm-stub.c | 10 ----------
> >  hw/i386/pc_sysfw.c     | 17 ++++++-----------
> >  include/sysemu/kvm.h   | 16 ----------------
> >  include/sysemu/sev.h   |  4 ++--
> >  target/i386/sev-stub.c |  5 +++++
> >  target/i386/sev.c      | 24 ++++++++++++++----------
> >  8 files changed, 31 insertions(+), 85 deletions(-)
> 
> Reviewed-by: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
> 

-- 
David Gibson			| I'll have my music baroque, and my code
david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au	| minimalist, thank you.  NOT _the_ _other_
				| _way_ _around_!
http://www.ozlabs.org/~dgibson

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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: pair@us.ibm.com, brijesh.singh@amd.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, frankja@linux.ibm.com,
	pragyansri.pathi@intel.com, mst@redhat.com,
	mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com, pasic@linux.ibm.com,
	borntraeger@de.ibm.com, andi.kleen@intel.com, thuth@redhat.com,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	dgilbert@redhat.com, Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>,
	qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, jun.nakajima@intel.com,
	berrange@redhat.com, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 03/13] sev: Remove false abstraction of flash encryption
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 13:59:15 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210118025915.GF2089552@yekko.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210115135425.7fd94aed.cohuck@redhat.com>

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On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 01:54:25PM +0100, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 10:58:01 +1100
> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
> 
> > When AMD's SEV memory encryption is in use, flash memory banks (which are
> > initialed by pc_system_flash_map()) need to be encrypted with the guest's
> > key, so that the guest can read them.
> > 
> > That's abstracted via the kvm_memcrypt_encrypt_data() callback in the KVM
> > state.. except, that it doesn't really abstract much at all.
> > 
> > For starters, the only called is in code specific to the 'pc' family of
> 
> s/called/call site/

Fixed, thanks.

> 
> > machine types, so it's obviously specific to those and to x86 to begin
> > with.  But it makes a bunch of further assumptions that need not be true
> > about an arbitrary confidential guest system based on memory encryption,
> > let alone one based on other mechanisms:
> > 
> >  * it assumes that the flash memory is defined to be encrypted with the
> >    guest key, rather than being shared with hypervisor
> >  * it assumes that that hypervisor has some mechanism to encrypt data into
> >    the guest, even though it can't decrypt it out, since that's the whole
> >    point
> >  * the interface assumes that this encrypt can be done in place, which
> >    implies that the hypervisor can write into a confidential guests's
> >    memory, even if what it writes isn't meaningful
> > 
> > So really, this "abstraction" is actually pretty specific to the way SEV
> > works.  So, this patch removes it and instead has the PC flash
> > initialization code call into a SEV specific callback.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
> > ---
> >  accel/kvm/kvm-all.c    | 31 ++-----------------------------
> >  accel/kvm/sev-stub.c   |  9 ++-------
> >  accel/stubs/kvm-stub.c | 10 ----------
> >  hw/i386/pc_sysfw.c     | 17 ++++++-----------
> >  include/sysemu/kvm.h   | 16 ----------------
> >  include/sysemu/sev.h   |  4 ++--
> >  target/i386/sev-stub.c |  5 +++++
> >  target/i386/sev.c      | 24 ++++++++++++++----------
> >  8 files changed, 31 insertions(+), 85 deletions(-)
> 
> Reviewed-by: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
> 

-- 
David Gibson			| I'll have my music baroque, and my code
david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au	| minimalist, thank you.  NOT _the_ _other_
				| _way_ _around_!
http://www.ozlabs.org/~dgibson

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-18  3:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-13 23:57 [PATCH v7 00/13] Generalize memory encryption models David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:57 ` David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:57 ` [PATCH v7 01/13] qom: Allow optional sugar props David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:57   ` David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58 ` [PATCH v7 02/13] confidential guest support: Introduce new confidential guest support class David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58   ` David Gibson
2021-01-14  9:34   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-14  9:34     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-14 10:42     ` David Gibson
2021-01-14 10:42       ` David Gibson
2021-01-18 18:51   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-01-18 18:51     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-01-21  1:06     ` David Gibson
2021-01-21  1:06       ` David Gibson
2021-01-21  9:08       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-01-21  9:08         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-01-29  2:32         ` David Gibson
2021-01-29  2:32           ` David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58 ` [PATCH v7 03/13] sev: Remove false abstraction of flash encryption David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58   ` David Gibson
2021-01-15 12:54   ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-15 12:54     ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-18  2:59     ` David Gibson [this message]
2021-01-18  2:59       ` David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58 ` [PATCH v7 04/13] confidential guest support: Move side effect out of machine_set_memory_encryption() David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58   ` David Gibson
2021-01-15 12:56   ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-15 12:56     ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-13 23:58 ` [PATCH v7 05/13] confidential guest support: Rework the "memory-encryption" property David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58   ` David Gibson
2021-01-15 13:06   ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-15 13:06     ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-13 23:58 ` [PATCH v7 06/13] sev: Add Error ** to sev_kvm_init() David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58   ` David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58 ` [PATCH v7 07/13] confidential guest support: Introduce cgs "ready" flag David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58   ` David Gibson
2021-01-14  8:55   ` Greg Kurz
2021-01-14  8:55     ` Greg Kurz
2021-01-15 13:12   ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-15 13:12     ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-18 19:47   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-01-18 19:47     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-01-19  8:16     ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-19  8:16       ` Cornelia Huck
2021-02-02  1:41       ` David Gibson
2021-02-02  1:41         ` David Gibson
2021-01-29  6:30     ` David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58 ` [PATCH v7 08/13] confidential guest support: Move SEV initialization into arch specific code David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58   ` David Gibson
2021-01-15 13:24   ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-15 13:24     ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-18  3:03     ` David Gibson
2021-01-18  3:03       ` David Gibson
2021-01-18  8:03       ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-18  8:03         ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-29  3:12         ` David Gibson
2021-01-29  3:12           ` David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58 ` [PATCH v7 09/13] confidential guest support: Update documentation David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58   ` David Gibson
2021-01-14 10:07   ` Greg Kurz
2021-01-14 10:07     ` Greg Kurz
2021-01-15 15:36   ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-15 15:36     ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-29  2:36     ` David Gibson
2021-01-29  2:36       ` David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58 ` [PATCH v7 10/13] spapr: Add PEF based confidential guest support David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58   ` David Gibson
2021-01-14 10:39   ` Greg Kurz
2021-01-29  6:23     ` David Gibson
2021-01-15 15:41   ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-15 15:41     ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-29  2:43     ` David Gibson
2021-01-29  2:43       ` David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58 ` [PATCH v7 11/13] spapr: PEF: prevent migration David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58   ` David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58 ` [PATCH v7 12/13] confidential guest support: Alter virtio default properties for protected guests David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58   ` David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58 ` [PATCH v7 13/13] s390: Recognize confidential-guest-support option David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:58   ` David Gibson
2021-01-14  9:10   ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-14  9:10     ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-14  9:19     ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-14  9:19       ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-14  9:24       ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-14  9:24         ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-15  0:13         ` David Gibson
2021-01-15  0:13           ` David Gibson
2021-01-14 11:45     ` David Gibson
2021-01-14 11:45       ` David Gibson
2021-01-15 16:36   ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-15 16:36     ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-18 17:06     ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-18 17:06       ` Christian Borntraeger

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