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From: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
	Geoff Levand <geoff@infradead.org>,
	Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@gmail.com>,
	Dongsheng Yang <dongsheng.yang@easystack.cn>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/18] mm: add a kunmap_local_dirty helper
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 11:12:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210618181258.GC1905674@iweiny-DESK2.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210618033728.GA16787@gondor.apana.org.au>

On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 11:37:28AM +0800, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 08:01:57PM -0700, Ira Weiny wrote:
> >
> > > +		flush_kernel_dcache_page(__page);		\
> > 
> > Is this required on 32bit systems?  Why is kunmap_flush_on_unmap() not
> > sufficient on 64bit systems?  The normal kunmap_local() path does that.
> > 
> > I'm sorry but I did not see a conclusion to my query on V1. Herbert implied the
> > he just copied from the crypto code.[1]  I'm concerned that this _dirty() call
> > is just going to confuse the users of kmap even more.  So why can't we get to
> > the bottom of why flush_kernel_dcache_page() needs so much logic around it
> > before complicating the general kernel users.
> > 
> > I would like to see it go away if possible.
> 
> This thread may be related:
> 
> https://lwn.net/Articles/240249/

Interesting!  Thanks!

Digging around a bit more I found:

https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/439637/

Auditing all the flush_dcache_page() arch code reveals that the mapping field
is either unused, or is checked for NULL.  Furthermore, all the implementations
call page_mapping_file() which further limits the page to not be a swap page.

All flush_kernel_dcache_page() implementations appears to operate the same way
in all arch's which define that call.

So I'm confident now that additional !PageSlab(__page) checks are not needed
and this patch is unnecessary.   Christoph, can we leave this out of the kmap
API and just fold the flush_kernel_dcache_page() calls back into the bvec code?

Unfortunately, I'm not convinced this can be handled completely by
kunmap_local() nor the mem*_page() calls because there is a difference between
flush_dcache_page() and flush_kernel_dcache_page() in most archs...  [parisc
being an exception which falls back to flush_kernel_dcache_page()]...

It seems like the generic unmap path _should_ be able to determine which call
to make based on the page but I'd have to look at that more.

Ira

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Geoff Levand <geoff@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.de>,
	ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org,
	Dongsheng Yang <dongsheng.yang@easystack.cn>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@gmail.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/18] mm: add a kunmap_local_dirty helper
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 11:12:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210618181258.GC1905674@iweiny-DESK2.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210618033728.GA16787@gondor.apana.org.au>

On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 11:37:28AM +0800, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 08:01:57PM -0700, Ira Weiny wrote:
> >
> > > +		flush_kernel_dcache_page(__page);		\
> > 
> > Is this required on 32bit systems?  Why is kunmap_flush_on_unmap() not
> > sufficient on 64bit systems?  The normal kunmap_local() path does that.
> > 
> > I'm sorry but I did not see a conclusion to my query on V1. Herbert implied the
> > he just copied from the crypto code.[1]  I'm concerned that this _dirty() call
> > is just going to confuse the users of kmap even more.  So why can't we get to
> > the bottom of why flush_kernel_dcache_page() needs so much logic around it
> > before complicating the general kernel users.
> > 
> > I would like to see it go away if possible.
> 
> This thread may be related:
> 
> https://lwn.net/Articles/240249/

Interesting!  Thanks!

Digging around a bit more I found:

https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/439637/

Auditing all the flush_dcache_page() arch code reveals that the mapping field
is either unused, or is checked for NULL.  Furthermore, all the implementations
call page_mapping_file() which further limits the page to not be a swap page.

All flush_kernel_dcache_page() implementations appears to operate the same way
in all arch's which define that call.

So I'm confident now that additional !PageSlab(__page) checks are not needed
and this patch is unnecessary.   Christoph, can we leave this out of the kmap
API and just fold the flush_kernel_dcache_page() calls back into the bvec code?

Unfortunately, I'm not convinced this can be handled completely by
kunmap_local() nor the mem*_page() calls because there is a difference between
flush_dcache_page() and flush_kernel_dcache_page() in most archs...  [parisc
being an exception which falls back to flush_kernel_dcache_page()]...

It seems like the generic unmap path _should_ be able to determine which call
to make based on the page but I'd have to look at that more.

Ira

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Geoff Levand <geoff@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.de>,
	ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org,
	Dongsheng Yang <dongsheng.yang@easystack.cn>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@gmail.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH 01/18] mm: add a kunmap_local_dirty helper
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 11:12:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210618181258.GC1905674@iweiny-DESK2.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210618033728.GA16787@gondor.apana.org.au>

On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 11:37:28AM +0800, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 08:01:57PM -0700, Ira Weiny wrote:
> >
> > > +		flush_kernel_dcache_page(__page);		\
> > 
> > Is this required on 32bit systems?  Why is kunmap_flush_on_unmap() not
> > sufficient on 64bit systems?  The normal kunmap_local() path does that.
> > 
> > I'm sorry but I did not see a conclusion to my query on V1. Herbert implied the
> > he just copied from the crypto code.[1]  I'm concerned that this _dirty() call
> > is just going to confuse the users of kmap even more.  So why can't we get to
> > the bottom of why flush_kernel_dcache_page() needs so much logic around it
> > before complicating the general kernel users.
> > 
> > I would like to see it go away if possible.
> 
> This thread may be related:
> 
> https://lwn.net/Articles/240249/

Interesting!  Thanks!

Digging around a bit more I found:

https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/439637/

Auditing all the flush_dcache_page() arch code reveals that the mapping field
is either unused, or is checked for NULL.  Furthermore, all the implementations
call page_mapping_file() which further limits the page to not be a swap page.

All flush_kernel_dcache_page() implementations appears to operate the same way
in all arch's which define that call.

So I'm confident now that additional !PageSlab(__page) checks are not needed
and this patch is unnecessary.   Christoph, can we leave this out of the kmap
API and just fold the flush_kernel_dcache_page() calls back into the bvec code?

Unfortunately, I'm not convinced this can be handled completely by
kunmap_local() nor the mem*_page() calls because there is a difference between
flush_dcache_page() and flush_kernel_dcache_page() in most archs...  [parisc
being an exception which falls back to flush_kernel_dcache_page()]...

It seems like the generic unmap path _should_ be able to determine which call
to make based on the page but I'd have to look at that more.

Ira

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-18 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-15 13:24 switch the block layer to use kmap_local_page v2 Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24 ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24 ` [PATCH 01/18] mm: add a kunmap_local_dirty helper Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-18  3:01   ` Ira Weiny
2021-06-18  3:01     ` [dm-devel] " Ira Weiny
2021-06-18  3:01     ` Ira Weiny
2021-06-18  3:37     ` Herbert Xu
2021-06-18  3:37       ` [dm-devel] " Herbert Xu
2021-06-18  3:37       ` Herbert Xu
2021-06-18 18:12       ` Ira Weiny [this message]
2021-06-18 18:12         ` [dm-devel] " Ira Weiny
2021-06-18 18:12         ` Ira Weiny
2021-06-24  6:32         ` [PATCH] crypto: scatterwalk - Remove obsolete PageSlab check Herbert Xu
2021-06-24  6:32           ` [dm-devel] " Herbert Xu
2021-06-24  6:32           ` Herbert Xu
2021-06-15 13:24 ` [PATCH 02/18] mm: use kunmap_local_dirty in memcpy_to_page Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24 ` [PATCH 03/18] mm: use kmap_local_page in memzero_page Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24 ` [PATCH 04/18] MIPS: don't include <linux/genhd.h> in <asm/mach-rc32434/rb.h> Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24 ` [PATCH 05/18] bvec: fix the include guards for bvec.h Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24 ` [PATCH 06/18] bvec: add a bvec_kmap_local helper Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-16 16:52   ` [dm-devel] " Bart Van Assche
2021-06-16 16:52     ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-16 16:52     ` Bart Van Assche
2021-06-15 13:24 ` [PATCH 07/18] bvec: add memcpy_{from,to}_bvec and memzero_bvec helper Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 07/18] bvec: add memcpy_{from, to}_bvec " Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24 ` [PATCH 08/18] block: use memzero_page in zero_fill_bio Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24 ` [PATCH 09/18] rbd: use memzero_bvec Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24 ` [PATCH 10/18] dm-writecache: use bvec_kmap_local instead of bvec_kmap_irq Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24 ` [PATCH 11/18] ps3disk: use memcpy_{from,to}_bvec Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-16 16:36   ` Geoff Levand
2021-06-16 16:36     ` [dm-devel] " Geoff Levand
2021-06-16 16:36     ` Geoff Levand
2021-06-15 13:24 ` [PATCH 12/18] block: remove bvec_kmap_irq and bvec_kunmap_irq Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24 ` [PATCH 13/18] block: rewrite bio_copy_data_iter to use bvec_kmap_local and memcpy_to_bvec Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24 ` [PATCH 14/18] block: use memcpy_to_bvec in copy_to_high_bio_irq Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24 ` [PATCH 15/18] block: use memcpy_from_bvec in bio_copy_kern_endio_read Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24 ` [PATCH 16/18] block: use memcpy_from_bvec in __blk_queue_bounce Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24 ` [PATCH 17/18] block: use bvec_kmap_local in t10_pi_type1_{prepare,complete} Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` [dm-devel] [PATCH 17/18] block: use bvec_kmap_local in t10_pi_type1_{prepare, complete} Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24 ` [PATCH 18/18] block: use bvec_kmap_local in bio_integrity_process Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-15 13:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-16 16:03 ` switch the block layer to use kmap_local_page v2 Martin K. Petersen
2021-06-16 16:03   ` [dm-devel] " Martin K. Petersen
2021-06-16 16:03   ` Martin K. Petersen

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