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From: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Zefan Li <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vasily Averin <vasily.averin@linux.dev>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 6/8] workingset: memcg: sleep when flushing stats in workingset_refault()
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2023 10:00:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230405080047.5omnatjbwz46f3y5@blackpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJD7tkb-0rXL9V2TX-Ax-3OkwJPYx_GaOT4D=VCA60riit+dOw@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 11:09:02AM -0700, Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com> wrote:
> IIUC there are multiple places where we can sleep in this path, we can
> sleep waiting for a page to be read from disk, we can sleep during
> allocating the page to read into, and IIUC the allocations on the
> fault path can even run into reclaim, going into the vmscan code. So
> there are precedents, but I am not sure if that's enough argument.

I expect it'd depend on the proportion of the slow/fast paths.
OK, let's see how it turns out in wider population.

Thanks,
Michal

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From: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Josef Bacik <josef-DigfWCa+lFGyeJad7bwFQA@public.gmane.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>,
	Zefan Li <lizefan.x-EC8Uxl6Npydl57MIdRCFDg@public.gmane.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Roman Gushchin
	<roman.gushchin-fxUVXftIFDnyG1zEObXtfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song-fxUVXftIFDnyG1zEObXtfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Vasily Averin
	<vasily.averin-fxUVXftIFDnyG1zEObXtfA@public.gmane.org>,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-block-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	bpf-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 6/8] workingset: memcg: sleep when flushing stats in workingset_refault()
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2023 10:00:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230405080047.5omnatjbwz46f3y5@blackpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJD7tkb-0rXL9V2TX-Ax-3OkwJPYx_GaOT4D=VCA60riit+dOw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

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On Tue, Apr 04, 2023 at 11:09:02AM -0700, Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> IIUC there are multiple places where we can sleep in this path, we can
> sleep waiting for a page to be read from disk, we can sleep during
> allocating the page to read into, and IIUC the allocations on the
> fault path can even run into reclaim, going into the vmscan code. So
> there are precedents, but I am not sure if that's enough argument.

I expect it'd depend on the proportion of the slow/fast paths.
OK, let's see how it turns out in wider population.

Thanks,
Michal

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-05  8:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-30 19:17 [PATCH v3 0/8] memcg: avoid flushing stats atomically where possible Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-30 19:17 ` [PATCH v3 1/8] cgroup: rename cgroup_rstat_flush_"irqsafe" to "atomic" Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-30 19:17   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-30 19:17 ` [PATCH v3 2/8] memcg: rename mem_cgroup_flush_stats_"delayed" to "ratelimited" Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-30 19:17 ` [PATCH v3 3/8] memcg: do not flush stats in irq context Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-30 19:17   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-30 19:17 ` [PATCH v3 4/8] memcg: replace stats_flush_lock with an atomic Yosry Ahmed
2023-04-04 16:52   ` Michal Koutný
2023-04-04 16:52     ` Michal Koutný
2023-04-04 17:13     ` Shakeel Butt
2023-04-04 17:13       ` Shakeel Butt
2023-04-04 17:21       ` Shakeel Butt
2023-04-04 17:21         ` Shakeel Butt
2023-04-04 17:32         ` Michal Koutný
2023-03-30 19:17 ` [PATCH v3 5/8] memcg: sleep during flushing stats in safe contexts Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-30 19:30   ` Johannes Weiner
2023-04-04 15:09   ` Johannes Weiner
2023-03-30 19:17 ` [PATCH v3 6/8] workingset: memcg: sleep when flushing stats in workingset_refault() Yosry Ahmed
2023-04-04 16:53   ` Michal Koutný
2023-04-04 16:53     ` Michal Koutný
2023-04-04 18:09     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-04-05  8:00       ` Michal Koutný [this message]
2023-04-05  8:00         ` Michal Koutný
2023-04-05  8:02         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-04-05  8:02           ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-30 19:18 ` [PATCH v3 7/8] vmscan: memcg: sleep when flushing stats during reclaim Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-30 19:18   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-30 19:18 ` [PATCH v3 8/8] memcg: do not modify rstat tree for zero updates Yosry Ahmed
2023-03-30 19:18   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-04-04 16:53   ` Michal Koutný

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