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From: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>,
	Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] fanotify support for btrfs sub-volumes
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2023 11:03:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231106-fragment-geweigert-1d80138523e5@brauner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZUibZgoQa9eNRsk4@infradead.org>

> > I would feel much more comfortable if the two filesystems that expose
> > these objects give us something like STATX_SUBVOLUME that userspace can
> > raise in the request mask of statx().
> 
> Except that this doesn't fix any existing code.

But why do we care?
Current code already does need to know it is on a btrfs subvolume. They
all know that btrfs subvolumes are special. They will need to know that
btrfs subvolumes are special in the future even if they were vfsmounts.
They would likely end up with another kind of confusion because suddenly
vfsmounts have device numbers that aren't associated with the superblock
that vfsmount belongs to.

So nothing is really solved by vfsmounts either. The only thing that we
achieved is that we somehow accommodated that st_dev hack. And that I
consider nakable.

> 
> > If userspace requests STATX_SUBVOLUME in the request mask, the two
> > filesystems raise STATX_SUBVOLUME in the statx result mask and then also
> > return the _real_ device number of the superblock and stop exposing that
> > made up device number.
> 
> What is a "real" device number?

The device number of the superblock of the btrfs filesystem and not some
made-up device number.

I care about not making a btrfs specific problem the vfs's problem by
hoisting that whole problem space a level up by mapping subvolumes to
vfsmounts.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-06 10:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-25 13:50 [PATCH 0/3] fanotify support for btrfs sub-volumes Amir Goldstein
2023-10-25 13:50 ` [PATCH 1/3] fs: define a new super operation to get fsid Amir Goldstein
2023-10-25 13:50 ` [PATCH 2/3] btrfs: implement " Amir Goldstein
2023-10-25 13:50 ` [PATCH 3/3] fanotify: support reporting events with fid on btrfs sub-volumes Amir Goldstein
2023-10-25 15:34 ` [PATCH 0/3] fanotify support for " Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-25 17:04   ` Jan Kara
2023-10-27  5:44     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-27 10:58       ` Jan Kara
2023-10-25 21:06   ` Josef Bacik
2023-10-25 23:02     ` Qu Wenruo
2023-10-26  5:49       ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-27  5:46     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-27 13:17       ` Josef Bacik
2023-10-27 13:47         ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-10-28  5:57         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-30 13:25         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-31 12:14           ` Christian Brauner
2023-10-31 12:22             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-31 12:50               ` Christian Brauner
2023-10-31 17:06                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-01  0:03                   ` Qu Wenruo
2023-11-03 14:21                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-01  8:16                   ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-01  8:41                     ` Qu Wenruo
2023-11-01  9:52                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-02  5:13                         ` Josef Bacik
2023-11-02  8:53                           ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-02  9:48                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-02 12:34                             ` Josef Bacik
2023-11-02 17:07                               ` David Sterba
2023-11-02 20:32                                 ` Josef Bacik
2023-11-03  6:56                                 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-03 13:52                                   ` Josef Bacik
2023-11-02 11:07                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-03 14:28                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-03 15:47                               ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06  7:53                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-06  8:18                                   ` Qu Wenruo
2023-11-06  9:56                                     ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06 12:25                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-06 10:03                                   ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2023-11-06 10:41                                     ` Qu Wenruo
2023-11-06 10:59                                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06 12:30                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-06 13:05                                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06 17:10                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-07  8:58                                               ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-08  7:56                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08  8:09                                                   ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-08  8:12                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08  8:22                                                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-08 14:07                                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08 15:57                                                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06 12:29                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-06 13:47                                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06 17:13                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-06 22:42                                           ` Josef Bacik
2023-11-07  9:06                                             ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-08  7:52                                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08  8:27                                                 ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-08 14:08                                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08 16:16                                                     ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-08 16:20                                                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09  6:55                                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-09  9:07                                                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-09 14:41                                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-10  9:33                                                               ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-10 10:31                                                                 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-11-09  6:53                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08  7:51                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-08 11:08                                               ` Jan Kara
2023-11-08 14:11                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-06  9:03                                 ` Jan Kara
2023-11-06  9:52                                   ` Christian Brauner
2023-11-06 12:22                                     ` Jan Kara
2023-11-03 14:23                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-11-03 14:22                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-25 17:17 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-25 18:02   ` Amir Goldstein
2023-10-26 12:17     ` Jan Kara
2023-10-26 12:36       ` Amir Goldstein

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