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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Jiang Xin <worldhello.net@gmail.com>
Cc: "Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	"Git List" <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Alexander Shopov" <ash@kambanaria.org>,
	"Jordi Mas" <jmas@softcatala.org>,
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	"Jiang Xin" <zhiyou.jx@alibaba-inc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/9] Makefile: have "make pot" not "reset --hard"
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 16:06:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <220519.86a6bd4mft.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANYiYbGpMx8JkHj2EMxYYk6KgdpiPr5=7VWEXKevp+J+e7NKcQ@mail.gmail.com>


On Thu, May 19 2022, Jiang Xin wrote:

> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 5:53 PM Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
> <avarab@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In the previous discussion of kicking things around I lost track of what
>> version of mine this is picked up from, but I range-diff'd it to my
>> 6cf9c1f7022 (Makefile: have "make pot" not "reset --hard", 2022-04-02),
>> which is the latest I had in avar/Makefile-incremental-po-git-pot-rule
>> on my branch.
>>
>> A range-diff of the two follows below (yours being the RHS). Some
>> comments:
>>
>>  * There's a bug here where you're creating .build/pot/po/pretty.c.po
>>    files, not .build/pot/po/pretty.c, i.e. you add a *.po extension.
>
> In the original version of your commit, each source file has a
> duplicate version in the ".build/" directory, and this will confuse
> IDE (E.g.: VS Code) when I jump to a function declaration.
>
> Name the "pot" snippets with the ".po" extension only have the
> following side effect, nothing else:
>
>             +#. #-#-#-#-#  add-patch.c.po  #-#-#-#-#
>              #. TRANSLATORS: do not translate [y/n]
>             [...]
>             +#. #-#-#-#-#  git-add--interactive.perl.po  #-#-#-#-#

I don't think we should sacrifice correctness for such an IDE
workaround, which surely will just bite someone else in a different
way. I.e. now if I'm auto-completing .po<TAB> in a hypothetical naïve
IDE that's looking in .build/ I'll get these built files instead.

The right solution in both cases being that the IDE in question should
be ignoring things covered by .gitignore, or perhaps we could ship
something in contrib/ for specific IDEs?

There's also an easy workaround we can do on the GNU make side. Unless
you mark files as PRECIOUS it'll delete files that are only used for
intermediate targets.

We could thus make the chain e.g.:

    git.c -> .build/pot/po/git.c -> .build/pot/po/git.c.done 

Instead of:

    git.c -> .build/pot/po/git.c -> .build/pot/po/git.c.done

Where the only point of the ".build/pot/po/git.c.done" is to have make
delete the intermediate file as soon as it's done with it.

Or, since the comments all start with #. or #: we could post-munge them
with "sed" I guess.

> I add some notes in commit message:
>
>     While we could rename the "pot" snippets without the ".po" extension
>     to use more intuitive filenames in the comments, but that will
>     confuse the IDE with lots of invalid C or perl source files in
>     ".build/pot/po" directory.

Ah, I see that after you pointed out. I'd skimmed entirely over the
commit message thinking it must have been something I wrote, and didn't
notice that edit. Sorry.

>>  * We went a bit back & forth on the "if grep -q PRItime" part on the GH
>>    ticket. FWIW I still think just skipping that work is a better
>>    choice. Yes we'll have ~10MB of redundant files in .build, and it's
>
> Redundant source files (*.c, *.h, *.perl) in .build will make IDE mad.

Hopefully we can have our cake & eat it too here, per the above. 

>>    marginally slower, but "make pot" isn't a hot target, better to
>>    optimize for simplicity.
>>
>>    But if you're really set on having it I don't mind...
>>
>>  * You add a "MSGCAT_FLAGS = --sort-by-file" here, maybe worth having
>>    some "common" flags variable in the earlier commit we can use here?
>>    I.e. share --sort-by-file with xgettext.
>>
>>  * Your version is missing FORCE on po/git.pot, which is a bug. We can't
>>    omit it on any file that's checked in. We're about to "git rm" it
>>    anyway, so maybe we shouldn't worry about it though...
>
> I'm confused. Since the "po/git.pot" target has a full set of
> prerequisites, it is fine to remove FORCE from dependence.

At this point in the series po/git.pot is still a file tracked by git.

Thus:

    make pot
    git reset --hard HEAD^
    make pot

Or whatever will report that there's nothing to do, since the timestamp
of the "generated" file will be newer than that of what it depends on.

That's why my version pulled that dance with having the
.build/pot/git.pot be non-FORCE and the po/git.pot be FORCE until it was
git rm'd.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-19 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-03 13:23 [PATCH 0/9] Incremental po/git.pot update and new l10n workflow Jiang Xin
2022-05-03 13:23 ` [PATCH 1/9] Makefile: sort "po/git.pot" by file location Jiang Xin
2022-05-03 13:23 ` [PATCH 2/9] Makefile: generate "po/git.pot" from stable LOCALIZED_C Jiang Xin
2022-05-03 13:23 ` [PATCH 3/9] Makefile: have "make pot" not "reset --hard" Jiang Xin
2022-05-03 13:23 ` [PATCH 4/9] i18n CI: stop allowing non-ASCII source messages in po/git.pot Jiang Xin
2022-05-03 13:23 ` [PATCH 5/9] po/git.pot: don't check in result of "make pot" Jiang Xin
2022-05-03 13:23 ` [PATCH 6/9] po/git.pot: remove this now generated file, see preceding commit Jiang Xin
2022-05-03 13:23 ` [PATCH 7/9] Makefile: add "po-update" rule to update po/XX.po Jiang Xin
2022-05-03 13:23 ` [PATCH 8/9] Makefile: add "po-init" rule to initialize po/XX.po Jiang Xin
2022-05-03 13:23 ` [PATCH 9/9] l10n: Document the new l10n workflow Jiang Xin
2022-05-03 14:07 ` [PATCH 0/9] Incremental po/git.pot update and " Peter Krefting
2022-05-04 12:41   ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-04 14:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-04 14:51   ` Daniel Santos
2022-05-05  0:20     ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-05 22:00       ` Daniel Santos
2022-05-05 22:49         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-06  0:50         ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-05  0:07   ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-04 17:58 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-19  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 " Jiang Xin
2022-05-19 10:28   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-19 14:32     ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-19 14:41       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-23  1:25   ` [PATCH v3 " Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  7:15     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-23  8:12       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-23 13:42         ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 14:38           ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-23 16:13             ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  8:26       ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 15:21     ` [PATCH v4 " Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 18:19       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 00/10] " Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 01/10] Makefile: sort source files before feeding to xgettext Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 02/10] Makefile: generate "po/git.pot" from stable LOCALIZED_C Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 03/10] Makefile: have "make pot" not "reset --hard" Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 04/10] i18n CI: stop allowing non-ASCII source messages in po/git.pot Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 05/10] Makefile: remove duplicate and unwanted files in FOUND_SOURCE_FILES Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 06/10] po/git.pot: this is now a generated file Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 17:32         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 07/10] po/git.pot: don't check in result of "make pot" Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 08/10] Makefile: add "po-update" rule to update po/XX.po Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 09/10] Makefile: add "po-init" rule to initialize po/XX.po Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 14:50       ` [PATCH v5 10/10] l10n: Document the new l10n workflow Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 15:21     ` [PATCH v4 1/9] Makefile: sort "po/git.pot" by file location Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 15:21     ` [PATCH v4 2/9] Makefile: generate "po/git.pot" from stable LOCALIZED_C Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 15:21     ` [PATCH v4 3/9] Makefile: have "make pot" not "reset --hard" Jiang Xin
2022-05-25 22:19       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-25 22:24         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-26  1:10           ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-26  2:15           ` [PATCH] Makefile: dedup git-ls-files output to prevent duplicate targets Jiang Xin
2022-05-26  4:02             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-26  6:06               ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-26  6:23                 ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-26  7:04                   ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 10:00                     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-26 11:06                       ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-26 17:18                       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-26 18:25                         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-26 19:00                           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-26 19:17                             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-23 15:21     ` [PATCH v4 4/9] i18n CI: stop allowing non-ASCII source messages in po/git.pot Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 15:21     ` [PATCH v4 5/9] po/git.pot: this is now a generated file Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 15:21     ` [PATCH v4 6/9] po/git.pot: don't check in result of "make pot" Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 15:21     ` [PATCH v4 7/9] Makefile: add "po-update" rule to update po/XX.po Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 15:21     ` [PATCH v4 8/9] Makefile: add "po-init" rule to initialize po/XX.po Jiang Xin
2022-05-23 15:21     ` [PATCH v4 9/9] l10n: Document the new l10n workflow Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  1:25   ` [PATCH v3 1/9] Makefile: sort "po/git.pot" by file location Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  8:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-23  8:50       ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  1:25   ` [PATCH v3 2/9] Makefile: generate "po/git.pot" from stable LOCALIZED_C Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  8:05     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-23  1:25   ` [PATCH v3 3/9] Makefile: have "make pot" not "reset --hard" Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  7:28     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-23 15:00       ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-24  0:56       ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  8:15     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-23  9:37       ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  1:25   ` [PATCH v3 4/9] i18n CI: stop allowing non-ASCII source messages in po/git.pot Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  1:25   ` [PATCH v3 5/9] po/git.pot: this is now a generated file Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  1:25   ` [PATCH v3 6/9] po/git.pot: don't check in result of "make pot" Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  7:26     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-23  8:30       ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  8:35         ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  9:28         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-23  1:25   ` [PATCH v3 7/9] Makefile: add "po-update" rule to update po/XX.po Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  1:25   ` [PATCH v3 8/9] Makefile: add "po-init" rule to initialize po/XX.po Jiang Xin
2022-05-23  1:25   ` [PATCH v3 9/9] l10n: Document the new l10n workflow Jiang Xin
2022-05-19  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] Makefile: sort "po/git.pot" by file location Jiang Xin
2022-05-19  8:53   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-19 12:41     ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-19  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] Makefile: generate "po/git.pot" from stable LOCALIZED_C Jiang Xin
2022-05-19  9:18   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-19 12:48     ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-19  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] Makefile: have "make pot" not "reset --hard" Jiang Xin
2022-05-19  9:43   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-19 13:19     ` Jiang Xin
2022-05-19 14:06       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2022-05-19  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] i18n CI: stop allowing non-ASCII source messages in po/git.pot Jiang Xin
2022-05-19 10:02   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-19  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] po/git.pot: this is now a generated file Jiang Xin
2022-05-19  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] po/git.pot: don't check in result of "make pot" Jiang Xin
2022-05-19  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] Makefile: add "po-update" rule to update po/XX.po Jiang Xin
2022-05-19 10:07   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-19  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] Makefile: add "po-init" rule to initialize po/XX.po Jiang Xin
2022-05-19 10:22   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-05-19  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] l10n: Document the new l10n workflow Jiang Xin
2022-05-19 17:18   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-05-21 15:06     ` Jiang Xin

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