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From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	axboe@kernel.dk, Martin Wilck <mwilck@suse.com>,
	lijie <lijie34@huawei.com>,
	xose.vazquez@gmail.com, chengjike.cheng@huawei.com,
	shenhong09@huawei.com, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	wangzhoumengjian@huawei.com, christophe.varoqui@opensvc.com,
	bmarzins@redhat.com, sschremm@netapp.com,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nvme: allow ANA support to be independent of native multipathing
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 10:40:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <37098edd-4dea-b58f-bca6-3be9af8ec4ee@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181116091458.GA17267@lst.de>

On 11/16/18 10:14 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 12:46:05PM -0500, Mike Snitzer wrote:
>> Whether or not ANA is present is a choice of the target implementation;
>> the host (and whether it supports multipathing) has _zero_ influence on
>> this.  If the target declares a path as 'inaccessible' the path _is_
>> inaccessible to the host.  As such, ANA support should be functional
>> even if native multipathing is not.
>>
>> Introduce ability to always re-read ANA log page as required due to ANA
>> error and make current ANA state available via sysfs -- even if native
>> multipathing is disabled on the host (e.g. nvme_core.multipath=N).
> 
> The first part I could see, but I still want to make it conditional
> in some way as nvme is going into deeply embedded setups, and I don't
> want to carry the weight of the ANA code around for everyone.
> 
Can you clarify this a bit?
We _do_ have the NVME multipath config option to deconfigure the whole 
thing during compile time; that isn't influenced with this patch.
So are you worried about the size of the ANA implementation itself?
Or are you worried about the size of the ANA structures?

> The second I fundamentally disagree with.  And even if you found agreement
> it would have to be in a separate patch as it is a separate feature.
> 
Why? Where's the problem with re-reading the ANA log pages if we get an 
event indicating that we should?

Cheers,

Hannes
-- 
Dr. Hannes Reinecke		   Teamlead Storage & Networking
hare@suse.de			               +49 911 74053 688
SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg
GF: F. Imendörffer, J. Smithard, J. Guild, D. Upmanyu, G. Norton
HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)

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From: hare@suse.de (Hannes Reinecke)
Subject: [PATCH] nvme: allow ANA support to be independent of native multipathing
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 10:40:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <37098edd-4dea-b58f-bca6-3be9af8ec4ee@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181116091458.GA17267@lst.de>

On 11/16/18 10:14 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018@12:46:05PM -0500, Mike Snitzer wrote:
>> Whether or not ANA is present is a choice of the target implementation;
>> the host (and whether it supports multipathing) has _zero_ influence on
>> this.  If the target declares a path as 'inaccessible' the path _is_
>> inaccessible to the host.  As such, ANA support should be functional
>> even if native multipathing is not.
>>
>> Introduce ability to always re-read ANA log page as required due to ANA
>> error and make current ANA state available via sysfs -- even if native
>> multipathing is disabled on the host (e.g. nvme_core.multipath=N).
> 
> The first part I could see, but I still want to make it conditional
> in some way as nvme is going into deeply embedded setups, and I don't
> want to carry the weight of the ANA code around for everyone.
> 
Can you clarify this a bit?
We _do_ have the NVME multipath config option to deconfigure the whole 
thing during compile time; that isn't influenced with this patch.
So are you worried about the size of the ANA implementation itself?
Or are you worried about the size of the ANA structures?

> The second I fundamentally disagree with.  And even if you found agreement
> it would have to be in a separate patch as it is a separate feature.
> 
Why? Where's the problem with re-reading the ANA log pages if we get an 
event indicating that we should?

Cheers,

Hannes
-- 
Dr. Hannes Reinecke		   Teamlead Storage & Networking
hare at suse.de			               +49 911 74053 688
SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 N?rnberg
GF: F. Imend?rffer, J. Smithard, J. Guild, D. Upmanyu, G. Norton
HRB 21284 (AG N?rnberg)

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-16  9:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-08  6:09 [PATCH] multipath-tools: add ANA support for NVMe device lijie
2018-11-12 16:23 ` Martin Wilck
2018-11-12 21:53   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-12 21:53     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-13  6:59     ` Martin Wilck
2018-11-13  6:59       ` Martin Wilck
2018-11-13 16:18     ` Keith Busch
2018-11-13 16:18       ` Keith Busch
2018-11-13 18:00       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-13 18:00         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-14  5:38         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-14  5:38           ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-14  7:49           ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-11-14  7:49             ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-11-14 10:36             ` [dm-devel] " Martin Wilck
2018-11-14 10:36               ` Martin Wilck
2018-11-14 17:47             ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-14 17:47               ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-14 18:51               ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-11-14 18:51                 ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-11-14 19:26                 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-14 19:26                   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-15 17:46                 ` [PATCH] nvme: allow ANA support to be independent of native multipathing Mike Snitzer
2018-11-15 17:46                   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-16  7:25                   ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-11-16  7:25                     ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-11-16 14:01                     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-16 14:01                       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-16  9:14                   ` [PATCH] " Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-16  9:14                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-16  9:40                     ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2018-11-16  9:40                       ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-11-16  9:49                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-16  9:49                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-16 10:06                         ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-11-16 10:06                           ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-11-16 10:17                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-16 10:17                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-16 19:28                             ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-16 19:28                               ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-16 19:34                               ` Laurence Oberman
2018-11-16 19:34                                 ` Laurence Oberman
2018-11-19  9:39                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-19  9:39                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-19 14:56                                 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-19 14:56                                   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-19 14:56                                   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-20  9:42                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-20  9:42                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-20 13:37                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-20 13:37                                       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-20 16:23                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-20 16:23                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-16 14:12                     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-16 14:12                       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-16 18:59                   ` [PATCH v2] " Mike Snitzer
2018-11-16 18:59                     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-14  7:24       ` multipath-tools: add ANA support for NVMe device Hannes Reinecke
2018-11-14  7:24         ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-11-14 15:35         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-14 15:35           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-11-14 16:16           ` Mike Snitzer
2018-11-14 16:16             ` Mike Snitzer

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