From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> To: Christophe de Dinechin <dinechin@redhat.com>, Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@gmail.com> Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, mst@redhat.com, mtosatti@redhat.com, Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@tencent.com>, dgilbert@redhat.com, peterx@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, quintela@redhat.com, wei.w.wang@intel.com, cota@braap.org, jiang.biao2@zte.com.cn Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/5] util: introduce threaded workqueue Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:51:15 +0100 [thread overview] Message-ID: <3a17b878-9a1c-7cdc-0250-187e82e2faf3@redhat.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <BB9071C9-5BED-4763-99B3-7083B8EB49CF@redhat.com> On 27/11/18 13:49, Christophe de Dinechin wrote: > So this is not really > helping. Also, the ThreadLocal structure itself is not necessarily aligned > within struct Threads. Therefore, it’s possible that “requests” for example > could be on the same cache line as request_fill_bitmap if planets align > the wrong way. I think this is a bit exaggerated. Linux and QEMU's own qht work just fine with compile-time directives. > In order to mitigate these effects, I would group the data that the user > writes and the data that the thread writes, i.e. reorder declarations, > put request_fill_bitmap and request_valid_ev together, and try > to put them in the same cache line so that only one cache line is invalidated > from within mark_request_valid instead of two. > > Then you end up with a single alignment directive instead of 4, to > separate requests from completions. Yeah, I agree with this. > That being said, I’m not sure why you use a bitmap here. What is the > expected benefit relative to atomic lists (which would also make it really > lock-free)? > I don't think lock-free lists are easier. Bitmaps smaller than 64 elements are both faster and easier to manage. Paolo
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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> To: Christophe de Dinechin <dinechin@redhat.com>, Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@gmail.com> Cc: mst@redhat.com, mtosatti@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, dgilbert@redhat.com, peterx@redhat.com, wei.w.wang@intel.com, jiang.biao2@zte.com.cn, eblake@redhat.com, quintela@redhat.com, cota@braap.org, Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong@tencent.com> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/5] util: introduce threaded workqueue Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:51:15 +0100 [thread overview] Message-ID: <3a17b878-9a1c-7cdc-0250-187e82e2faf3@redhat.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <BB9071C9-5BED-4763-99B3-7083B8EB49CF@redhat.com> On 27/11/18 13:49, Christophe de Dinechin wrote: > So this is not really > helping. Also, the ThreadLocal structure itself is not necessarily aligned > within struct Threads. Therefore, it’s possible that “requests” for example > could be on the same cache line as request_fill_bitmap if planets align > the wrong way. I think this is a bit exaggerated. Linux and QEMU's own qht work just fine with compile-time directives. > In order to mitigate these effects, I would group the data that the user > writes and the data that the thread writes, i.e. reorder declarations, > put request_fill_bitmap and request_valid_ev together, and try > to put them in the same cache line so that only one cache line is invalidated > from within mark_request_valid instead of two. > > Then you end up with a single alignment directive instead of 4, to > separate requests from completions. Yeah, I agree with this. > That being said, I’m not sure why you use a bitmap here. What is the > expected benefit relative to atomic lists (which would also make it really > lock-free)? > I don't think lock-free lists are easier. Bitmaps smaller than 64 elements are both faster and easier to manage. Paolo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-27 13:51 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2018-11-22 7:20 [PATCH v3 0/5] migration: improve multithreads guangrong.xiao 2018-11-22 7:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " guangrong.xiao 2018-11-22 7:20 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] bitops: introduce change_bit_atomic guangrong.xiao 2018-11-22 7:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " guangrong.xiao 2018-11-23 10:23 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert 2018-11-23 10:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert 2018-11-28 9:35 ` Juan Quintela 2018-11-28 9:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela 2018-11-22 7:20 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] util: introduce threaded workqueue guangrong.xiao 2018-11-22 7:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " guangrong.xiao 2018-11-23 11:02 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert 2018-11-23 11:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert 2018-11-26 7:57 ` Xiao Guangrong 2018-11-26 7:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Xiao Guangrong 2018-11-26 10:56 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert 2018-11-26 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert 2018-11-27 7:17 ` Xiao Guangrong 2018-11-27 7:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Xiao Guangrong 2018-11-26 18:55 ` Emilio G. Cota 2018-11-26 18:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Emilio G. Cota 2018-11-27 8:30 ` Xiao Guangrong 2018-11-27 8:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Xiao Guangrong 2018-11-24 0:12 ` Emilio G. Cota 2018-11-24 0:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Emilio G. Cota 2018-11-26 8:06 ` Xiao Guangrong 2018-11-26 8:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Xiao Guangrong 2018-11-26 18:49 ` Emilio G. Cota 2018-11-26 18:49 ` [Qemu-devel] " Emilio G. Cota 2018-11-27 8:29 ` Xiao Guangrong 2018-11-27 8:29 ` [Qemu-devel] " Xiao Guangrong 2018-11-24 0:17 ` Emilio G. Cota 2018-11-24 0:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Emilio G. Cota 2018-11-26 8:18 ` Xiao Guangrong 2018-11-26 8:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Xiao Guangrong 2018-11-26 10:28 ` Paolo Bonzini 2018-11-26 10:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini 2018-11-27 8:31 ` Xiao Guangrong 2018-11-27 8:31 ` [Qemu-devel] " Xiao Guangrong 2018-11-27 12:49 ` Christophe de Dinechin 2018-11-27 12:49 ` [Qemu-devel] " Christophe de Dinechin 2018-11-27 13:51 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message] 2018-11-27 13:51 ` Paolo Bonzini 2018-12-04 15:49 ` Christophe de Dinechin 2018-12-04 15:49 ` [Qemu-devel] " Christophe de Dinechin 2018-12-04 17:16 ` Paolo Bonzini 2018-12-04 17:16 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini 2018-12-10 3:23 ` Xiao Guangrong 2018-12-10 3:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Xiao Guangrong 2018-11-27 17:39 ` Emilio G. Cota 2018-11-27 17:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Emilio G. Cota 2018-11-28 8:55 ` Xiao Guangrong 2018-11-28 8:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Xiao Guangrong 2018-11-22 7:20 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] migration: use threaded workqueue for compression guangrong.xiao 2018-11-22 7:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " guangrong.xiao 2018-11-23 18:17 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert 2018-11-23 18:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert 2018-11-23 18:22 ` Paolo Bonzini 2018-11-23 18:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini 2018-11-23 18:29 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert 2018-11-23 18:29 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert 2018-11-26 8:00 ` Xiao Guangrong 2018-11-26 8:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Xiao Guangrong 2018-11-22 7:20 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] migration: use threaded workqueue for decompression guangrong.xiao 2018-11-22 7:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " guangrong.xiao 2018-11-22 7:20 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] tests: add threaded-workqueue-bench guangrong.xiao 2018-11-22 7:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " guangrong.xiao 2018-11-22 21:25 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] migration: improve multithreads no-reply 2018-11-22 21:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " no-reply 2018-11-22 21:35 ` no-reply 2018-11-22 21:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " no-reply
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