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From: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	mashirle@us.ibm.com, krkumar2@in.ibm.com,
	habanero@linux.vnet.ibm.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, edumazet@google.com,
	tahm@linux.vnet.ibm.com, jwhan@filewood.snu.ac.kr,
	davem@davemloft.net, akong@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	sri@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [net-next RFC V5 4/5] virtio_net: multiqueue support
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:28:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <500D1926.5020407@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <500CE72B.2040101@redhat.com>

On 07/23/2012 07:54 AM, Jason Wang wrote:
> On 07/21/2012 08:02 PM, Sasha Levin wrote:
>> On 07/20/2012 03:40 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>> -    err = init_vqs(vi);
>>>>> +    if (virtio_has_feature(vdev, VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_VQ))
>>>>> +        vi->has_cvq = true;
>>>>> +
>>> How about we disable multiqueue if there's no cvq?
>>> Will make logic a bit simpler, won't it?
>> multiqueues don't really depend on cvq. Does this added complexity really justifies adding an artificial limit?
>>
> 
> Yes, it does not depends on cvq. Cvq were just used to negotiate the number of queues a guest wishes to use which is really useful (at least for now). Since multiqueue can not out-perform for single queue in every kinds of workloads or benchmark, so we want to let guest driver use single queue by default even when multiqueue were enabled by management software and let use to enalbe it through ethtool. So user could not feel regression when it switch to use a multiqueue capable driver and backend.

Why would you limit it to a single vq if the user has specified a different number of vqs (>1) in the virtio-net device config?

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From: Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: krkumar2@in.ibm.com, habanero@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	mashirle@us.ibm.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, edumazet@google.com,
	tahm@linux.vnet.ibm.com, jwhan@filewood.snu.ac.kr,
	davem@davemloft.net, sri@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [net-next RFC V5 4/5] virtio_net: multiqueue support
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:28:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <500D1926.5020407@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <500CE72B.2040101@redhat.com>

On 07/23/2012 07:54 AM, Jason Wang wrote:
> On 07/21/2012 08:02 PM, Sasha Levin wrote:
>> On 07/20/2012 03:40 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>> -    err = init_vqs(vi);
>>>>> +    if (virtio_has_feature(vdev, VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_VQ))
>>>>> +        vi->has_cvq = true;
>>>>> +
>>> How about we disable multiqueue if there's no cvq?
>>> Will make logic a bit simpler, won't it?
>> multiqueues don't really depend on cvq. Does this added complexity really justifies adding an artificial limit?
>>
> 
> Yes, it does not depends on cvq. Cvq were just used to negotiate the number of queues a guest wishes to use which is really useful (at least for now). Since multiqueue can not out-perform for single queue in every kinds of workloads or benchmark, so we want to let guest driver use single queue by default even when multiqueue were enabled by management software and let use to enalbe it through ethtool. So user could not feel regression when it switch to use a multiqueue capable driver and backend.

Why would you limit it to a single vq if the user has specified a different number of vqs (>1) in the virtio-net device config?

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-23  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-05 10:29 [net-next RFC V5 0/5] Multiqueue virtio-net Jason Wang
2012-07-05 10:29 ` Jason Wang
2012-07-05 10:29 ` [net-next RFC V5 1/5] virtio_net: Introduce VIRTIO_NET_F_MULTIQUEUE Jason Wang
2012-07-05 10:29   ` Jason Wang
2012-07-05 10:29 ` [net-next RFC V5 2/5] virtio_ring: move queue_index to vring_virtqueue Jason Wang
2012-07-05 10:29   ` Jason Wang
2012-07-05 11:40   ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-05 11:40     ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-06  3:17     ` Jason Wang
2012-07-06  3:17       ` Jason Wang
2012-07-26  8:20     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-26  8:20       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-30  3:30       ` Jason Wang
2012-07-30  3:30         ` Jason Wang
2012-07-05 10:29 ` [net-next RFC V5 3/5] virtio: intorduce an API to set affinity for a virtqueue Jason Wang
2012-07-05 10:29   ` Jason Wang
2012-07-27 14:38   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-27 14:38     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-07-29 20:40     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-29 20:40       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-30  6:27       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-09 15:14         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-09 15:14           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-09 15:13   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-09 15:13     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-09 15:35     ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-09 15:35       ` Avi Kivity
2012-07-05 10:29 ` [net-next RFC V5 4/5] virtio_net: multiqueue support Jason Wang
2012-07-05 10:29   ` Jason Wang
2012-07-05 20:02   ` Amos Kong
2012-07-05 20:02     ` Amos Kong
2012-07-06  7:45     ` Jason Wang
2012-07-06  7:45       ` Jason Wang
2012-07-20 13:40   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-20 13:40     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-21 12:02     ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-21 12:02       ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-23  5:54       ` Jason Wang
2012-07-23  5:54         ` Jason Wang
2012-07-23  9:28         ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2012-07-23  9:28           ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-30  3:29           ` Jason Wang
2012-07-30  3:29             ` Jason Wang
2012-07-29  9:44       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-29  9:44         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-30  3:26         ` Jason Wang
2012-07-30  3:26           ` Jason Wang
2012-07-30 13:00         ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-30 13:00           ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-23  5:48     ` Jason Wang
2012-07-23  5:48       ` Jason Wang
2012-07-29  9:50       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-29  9:50         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-30  5:15         ` Jason Wang
2012-07-30  5:15           ` Jason Wang
2012-07-05 10:29 ` [net-next RFC V5 5/5] virtio_net: support negotiating the number of queues through ctrl vq Jason Wang
2012-07-05 10:29   ` Jason Wang
2012-07-05 12:51   ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-05 12:51     ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-05 20:07     ` Amos Kong
2012-07-05 20:07       ` Amos Kong
2012-07-06  7:46       ` Jason Wang
2012-07-06  7:46         ` Jason Wang
2012-07-06  3:20     ` Jason Wang
2012-07-06  3:20       ` Jason Wang
2012-07-06  6:38       ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-07-06  6:38         ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-07-06  9:26         ` Jason Wang
2012-07-06  9:26           ` Jason Wang
2012-07-06  8:10       ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-06  8:10         ` Sasha Levin
2012-07-09 20:13   ` Ben Hutchings
2012-07-09 20:13     ` Ben Hutchings
2012-07-20 12:33   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-20 12:33     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-23  5:32     ` Jason Wang
2012-07-23  5:32       ` Jason Wang
2012-07-05 17:45 ` [net-next RFC V5 0/5] Multiqueue virtio-net Rick Jones
2012-07-05 17:45   ` Rick Jones
2012-07-06  7:42   ` Jason Wang
2012-07-06  7:42     ` Jason Wang
2012-07-06 16:23     ` Rick Jones
2012-07-06 16:23       ` Rick Jones
2012-07-09  3:23       ` Jason Wang
2012-07-09  3:23         ` Jason Wang
2012-07-09 16:46         ` Rick Jones
2012-07-09 16:46           ` Rick Jones
2012-07-08  8:19 ` Ronen Hod
2012-07-08  8:19   ` Ronen Hod
2012-07-09  5:35   ` Jason Wang
2012-07-09  5:35     ` Jason Wang

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