From: Jiang Liu <jiang.liu@huawei.com> To: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com> Cc: Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>, Taku Izumi <izumi.taku@jp.fujitsu.com>, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, kaneshige.kenji@jp.fujitsu.com Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7][RESEND] acpi, pci: hostbridge hotplug support Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:03:42 +0800 [thread overview] Message-ID: <50400D6E.1050108@huawei.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CAErSpo5ZRapkienpn4ZNWyeC_vfzzxVhmUzViQd0XtAf5ghz2Q@mail.gmail.com> On 2012-8-31 8:43, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org> wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com> wrote: > >>> 1) For patch [1/7], I pointed out that there is currently no way to >>> remove a non-ACPI host bridge, which means the fact that we don't free >>> the pci_sysdata is not really a leak. If you want to add the >>> release_fn so that you can add support for removing and adding these >>> non-ACPI host bridges in the future, I do not understand that. It >>> just doesn't make sense to me to try to support hotplug for those >>> bridges. >> >> for Intel Nehalem and westmere -ex system, there will be root bus from >> 0xf8 to 0xff for cpus. >> and BIOS does not put the in ACPI, but __pci_mmcfg_init will set the >> pcibios_last_bus. >> so those but get probed via pcibios_fixup_peer_bridges. > > I understand how these buses get scanned. What I don't understand is > what value we get from trying to make these buses hot-pluggable. > >> I hope I could use /sys to remove non-acpi root bus. > > Why? I don't think there's any value in being able to remove non-ACPI > host bridges. Any x86 host bridge hotplug that's actually useful to > users will be done via ACPI. > > You mention later that you want to remove these buses because they > only contain CPU devices that don't seem to be good for anything. I > would rather do this by simply not scanning for peer bridges in the > first place. That's simpler than scanning the bridge, deciding we > don't care about what we found, then trying to hot-remove it. Actually some memory error handling mechanism may depend on those CPU devices to do memory address decoding. For example, EDAC needs to access them. And we are working on a project to do memory address translation by reading memory controller information from those CPU devices too. > > Bjorn > >
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From: Jiang Liu <jiang.liu@huawei.com> To: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com> Cc: Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>, Taku Izumi <izumi.taku@jp.fujitsu.com>, <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>, <kaneshige.kenji@jp.fujitsu.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7][RESEND] acpi, pci: hostbridge hotplug support Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:03:42 +0800 [thread overview] Message-ID: <50400D6E.1050108@huawei.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CAErSpo5ZRapkienpn4ZNWyeC_vfzzxVhmUzViQd0XtAf5ghz2Q@mail.gmail.com> On 2012-8-31 8:43, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org> wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com> wrote: > >>> 1) For patch [1/7], I pointed out that there is currently no way to >>> remove a non-ACPI host bridge, which means the fact that we don't free >>> the pci_sysdata is not really a leak. If you want to add the >>> release_fn so that you can add support for removing and adding these >>> non-ACPI host bridges in the future, I do not understand that. It >>> just doesn't make sense to me to try to support hotplug for those >>> bridges. >> >> for Intel Nehalem and westmere -ex system, there will be root bus from >> 0xf8 to 0xff for cpus. >> and BIOS does not put the in ACPI, but __pci_mmcfg_init will set the >> pcibios_last_bus. >> so those but get probed via pcibios_fixup_peer_bridges. > > I understand how these buses get scanned. What I don't understand is > what value we get from trying to make these buses hot-pluggable. > >> I hope I could use /sys to remove non-acpi root bus. > > Why? I don't think there's any value in being able to remove non-ACPI > host bridges. Any x86 host bridge hotplug that's actually useful to > users will be done via ACPI. > > You mention later that you want to remove these buses because they > only contain CPU devices that don't seem to be good for anything. I > would rather do this by simply not scanning for peer bridges in the > first place. That's simpler than scanning the bridge, deciding we > don't care about what we found, then trying to hot-remove it. Actually some memory error handling mechanism may depend on those CPU devices to do memory address decoding. For example, EDAC needs to access them. And we are working on a project to do memory address translation by reading memory controller information from those CPU devices too. > > Bjorn > >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-31 1:03 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2012-08-10 6:09 [PATCH 0/7][RESEND] acpi, pci: hostbridge hotplug support Taku Izumi 2012-08-10 6:11 ` [PATCH 1/7][RESEND] x86, PCI: Fix non acpi path pci_sysdata leaking with release_fn Taku Izumi 2012-08-16 16:42 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2012-08-10 6:12 ` [PATCH 2/7][RESEND] PCI: Correctly clean up pci root buses in function pci_remove_bus() Taku Izumi 2012-08-16 17:11 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2012-08-30 15:43 ` Jiang Liu 2012-08-10 6:12 ` [PATCH 3/7][RESEND] ACPI, PCI: Use normal list for struct acpi_pci_driver Taku Izumi 2012-08-10 6:13 ` [PATCH 4/7][RESEND] ACPI, PCI: Notify acpi_pci_drivers when hot-plugging PCI root bridges Taku Izumi 2012-08-10 6:14 ` [PATCH 5/7][RESEND] ACPI, PCI: Protect global lists in drivers/acpi/pci_root.c Taku Izumi 2012-08-16 17:25 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2012-08-10 6:14 ` [PATCH 6/7][RESEND] ACPI, PCI: add hostbridge removal function Taku Izumi 2012-08-10 6:15 ` [PATCH 7/7][RESEND] ACPI, PCI: add resoruce-assign code for devices under hot-added hostbridge Taku Izumi 2012-08-10 16:41 ` [PATCH 0/7][RESEND] acpi, pci: hostbridge hotplug support Yinghai Lu 2012-08-20 5:02 ` Taku Izumi 2012-08-20 5:02 ` Taku Izumi 2012-08-30 6:23 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2012-08-30 6:33 ` Jiang Liu 2012-08-30 6:33 ` Jiang Liu 2012-08-30 15:48 ` Yinghai Lu 2012-08-30 16:38 ` Jiang Liu 2012-08-30 17:29 ` Yinghai Lu 2012-08-31 0:43 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2012-08-31 1:03 ` Jiang Liu [this message] 2012-08-31 1:03 ` Jiang Liu 2012-08-31 5:04 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2012-08-31 5:19 ` Jiang Liu 2012-08-31 5:19 ` Jiang Liu 2012-08-31 5:42 ` Bjorn Helgaas 2012-08-31 16:44 ` Yinghai Lu 2012-09-01 3:56 ` Jiang Liu 2012-09-03 2:28 ` Taku Izumi 2012-09-03 4:04 ` Jiang Liu 2012-09-03 4:04 ` Jiang Liu
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