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From: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
To: Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>
Cc: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart+renesas@ideasonboard.com>,
	<linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org>, <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Jesse Barnes <jesse.barnes@intel.com>,
	Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@linaro.org>,
	Tom Gall <tom.gall@linaro.org>,
	Kyungmin Park <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	<linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Mark Zhang <markz@nvidia.com>,
	Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	Ragesh Radhakrishnan <Ragesh.R@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	Sunil Joshi <joshi@samsung.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>,
	Vikas Sajjan <vikas.sajjan@linaro.org>,
	Marcus Lorentzon <marcus.lorentzon@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC v3 00/19] Common Display Framework
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 16:24:08 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <524C1E78.6030508@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <524C1058.2050500@samsung.com>

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Hi Andrzej,

On 02/10/13 15:23, Andrzej Hajda wrote:

>> Using Linux buses for DBI/DSI
>> =============================
>>
>> I still don't see how it would work. I've covered this multiple times in
>> previous posts so I'm not going into more details now.
>>
>> I implemented DSI (just command mode for now) as a video bus but with bunch of
>> extra ops for sending the control messages.
> 
> Could you post the list of ops you have to create.

I'd rather not post the ops I have in my prototype, as it's still a
total hack. However, they are very much based on the current OMAP DSS's
ops, so I'll describe them below. I hope I find time to polish my CDF
hacks more, so that I can publish them.

> I have posted some time ago my implementation of DSI bus:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure/69358/focus=69362

A note about the DT data on your series, as I've been stuggling to
figure out the DT data for OMAP: some of the DT properties look like
configuration, not hardware description. For example,
"samsung,bta-timeout" doesn't describe hardware.

> I needed three quite generic ops to make it working:
> - set_power(on/off),
> - set_stream(on/off),
> - transfer(dsi_transaction_type, tx_buf, tx_len, rx_buf, rx_len)
> I have recently replaced set_power by PM_RUNTIME callbacks,
> but I had to add .initialize ops.

We have a bit more on omap:

http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/include/video/omapdss.h#n648

Some of those should be removed and some should be omap DSI's internal
matters, not part of the API. But it gives an idea of the ops we use.
Shortly about the ops:

- (dis)connect, which might be similar to your initialize. connect is
meant to "connect" the pipeline, reserving the video ports used, etc.

- enable/disable, enable the DSI bus. If the DSI peripheral requires a
continous DSI clock, it's also started at this point.

- set_config configures the DSI bus (like, command/video mode, etc.).

- configure_pins can be ignored, I think that function is not needed.

- enable_hs and enable_te, used to enable/disable HS mode and
tearing-elimination

- update, which does a single frame transfer

- bus_lock/unlock can be ignored

- enable_video_output starts the video stream, when using DSI video mode

- the request_vc, set_vc_id, release_vc can be ignored

- Bunch of transfer funcs. Perhaps a single func could be used, as you
do. We have sync write funcs, which do a BTA at the end of the write and
wait for reply, and nosync version, which just pushes the packet to the
TX buffers.

- bta_sync, which sends a BTA and waits for the peripheral to reply

- set_max_rx_packet_size, used to configure the max rx packet size.

> Regarding the discussion how and where to implement control bus I have
> though about different alternatives:
> 1. Implement DSI-master as a parent dev which will create DSI-slave
> platform dev in a similar way as for MFD devices (ssbi.c seems to me a
> good example).
> 2. Create universal mipi-display-bus which will cover DSI, DBI and
> possibly other buses - they have have few common things - for example
> MIPI-DCS commands.
> 
> I am not really convinced to either solution all have some advantages
> and disadvantages.

I think a dedicated DSI bus and your alternatives all have the same
issues with splitting the DSI control into two. I've shared some of my
thoughts here:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.dri.devel/90651
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.dri.devel/91269
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.dri.devel/91272

I still think that it's best to consider DSI and DBI as a video bus (not
as a separate video bus and a control bus), and provide the packet
transfer methods as part of the video ops.

 Tomi



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From: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
To: Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>
Cc: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart+renesas@ideasonboard.com>,
	linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Jesse Barnes <jesse.barnes@intel.com>,
	Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@linaro.org>,
	Tom Gall <tom.gall@linaro.org>,
	Kyungmin Park <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Mark Zhang <markz@nvidia.com>,
	Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	Ragesh Radhakrishnan <Ragesh.R@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	Sunil Joshi <joshi@samsung.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>,
	Vikas Sajjan <vikas.sajjan@linaro.org>,
	Marcus Lorentzon <marcus.lorentzon@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC v3 00/19] Common Display Framework
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 13:24:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <524C1E78.6030508@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <524C1058.2050500@samsung.com>

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Hi Andrzej,

On 02/10/13 15:23, Andrzej Hajda wrote:

>> Using Linux buses for DBI/DSI
>> =============================
>>
>> I still don't see how it would work. I've covered this multiple times in
>> previous posts so I'm not going into more details now.
>>
>> I implemented DSI (just command mode for now) as a video bus but with bunch of
>> extra ops for sending the control messages.
> 
> Could you post the list of ops you have to create.

I'd rather not post the ops I have in my prototype, as it's still a
total hack. However, they are very much based on the current OMAP DSS's
ops, so I'll describe them below. I hope I find time to polish my CDF
hacks more, so that I can publish them.

> I have posted some time ago my implementation of DSI bus:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure/69358/focus=69362

A note about the DT data on your series, as I've been stuggling to
figure out the DT data for OMAP: some of the DT properties look like
configuration, not hardware description. For example,
"samsung,bta-timeout" doesn't describe hardware.

> I needed three quite generic ops to make it working:
> - set_power(on/off),
> - set_stream(on/off),
> - transfer(dsi_transaction_type, tx_buf, tx_len, rx_buf, rx_len)
> I have recently replaced set_power by PM_RUNTIME callbacks,
> but I had to add .initialize ops.

We have a bit more on omap:

http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/include/video/omapdss.h#n648

Some of those should be removed and some should be omap DSI's internal
matters, not part of the API. But it gives an idea of the ops we use.
Shortly about the ops:

- (dis)connect, which might be similar to your initialize. connect is
meant to "connect" the pipeline, reserving the video ports used, etc.

- enable/disable, enable the DSI bus. If the DSI peripheral requires a
continous DSI clock, it's also started at this point.

- set_config configures the DSI bus (like, command/video mode, etc.).

- configure_pins can be ignored, I think that function is not needed.

- enable_hs and enable_te, used to enable/disable HS mode and
tearing-elimination

- update, which does a single frame transfer

- bus_lock/unlock can be ignored

- enable_video_output starts the video stream, when using DSI video mode

- the request_vc, set_vc_id, release_vc can be ignored

- Bunch of transfer funcs. Perhaps a single func could be used, as you
do. We have sync write funcs, which do a BTA at the end of the write and
wait for reply, and nosync version, which just pushes the packet to the
TX buffers.

- bta_sync, which sends a BTA and waits for the peripheral to reply

- set_max_rx_packet_size, used to configure the max rx packet size.

> Regarding the discussion how and where to implement control bus I have
> though about different alternatives:
> 1. Implement DSI-master as a parent dev which will create DSI-slave
> platform dev in a similar way as for MFD devices (ssbi.c seems to me a
> good example).
> 2. Create universal mipi-display-bus which will cover DSI, DBI and
> possibly other buses - they have have few common things - for example
> MIPI-DCS commands.
> 
> I am not really convinced to either solution all have some advantages
> and disadvantages.

I think a dedicated DSI bus and your alternatives all have the same
issues with splitting the DSI control into two. I've shared some of my
thoughts here:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.dri.devel/90651
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.dri.devel/91269
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.dri.devel/91272

I still think that it's best to consider DSI and DBI as a video bus (not
as a separate video bus and a control bus), and provide the packet
transfer methods as part of the video ops.

 Tomi



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From: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
To: Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>
Cc: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart+renesas@ideasonboard.com>,
	linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Jesse Barnes <jesse.barnes@intel.com>,
	Benjamin Gaignard <benjamin.gaignard@linaro.org>,
	Tom Gall <tom.gall@linaro.org>,
	Kyungmin Park <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Mark Zhang <markz@nvidia.com>,
	Alexandre Courbot <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	Ragesh Radhakrishnan <Ragesh.R@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	Sunil Joshi <joshi@samsung.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>,
	Vikas Sajjan <vikas.sajjan@linaro.org>,
	Marcus Lorentzon <marcus.lorentzon@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC v3 00/19] Common Display Framework
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 16:24:08 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <524C1E78.6030508@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <524C1058.2050500@samsung.com>

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Hi Andrzej,

On 02/10/13 15:23, Andrzej Hajda wrote:

>> Using Linux buses for DBI/DSI
>> =============================
>>
>> I still don't see how it would work. I've covered this multiple times in
>> previous posts so I'm not going into more details now.
>>
>> I implemented DSI (just command mode for now) as a video bus but with bunch of
>> extra ops for sending the control messages.
> 
> Could you post the list of ops you have to create.

I'd rather not post the ops I have in my prototype, as it's still a
total hack. However, they are very much based on the current OMAP DSS's
ops, so I'll describe them below. I hope I find time to polish my CDF
hacks more, so that I can publish them.

> I have posted some time ago my implementation of DSI bus:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure/69358/focus=69362

A note about the DT data on your series, as I've been stuggling to
figure out the DT data for OMAP: some of the DT properties look like
configuration, not hardware description. For example,
"samsung,bta-timeout" doesn't describe hardware.

> I needed three quite generic ops to make it working:
> - set_power(on/off),
> - set_stream(on/off),
> - transfer(dsi_transaction_type, tx_buf, tx_len, rx_buf, rx_len)
> I have recently replaced set_power by PM_RUNTIME callbacks,
> but I had to add .initialize ops.

We have a bit more on omap:

http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/include/video/omapdss.h#n648

Some of those should be removed and some should be omap DSI's internal
matters, not part of the API. But it gives an idea of the ops we use.
Shortly about the ops:

- (dis)connect, which might be similar to your initialize. connect is
meant to "connect" the pipeline, reserving the video ports used, etc.

- enable/disable, enable the DSI bus. If the DSI peripheral requires a
continous DSI clock, it's also started at this point.

- set_config configures the DSI bus (like, command/video mode, etc.).

- configure_pins can be ignored, I think that function is not needed.

- enable_hs and enable_te, used to enable/disable HS mode and
tearing-elimination

- update, which does a single frame transfer

- bus_lock/unlock can be ignored

- enable_video_output starts the video stream, when using DSI video mode

- the request_vc, set_vc_id, release_vc can be ignored

- Bunch of transfer funcs. Perhaps a single func could be used, as you
do. We have sync write funcs, which do a BTA at the end of the write and
wait for reply, and nosync version, which just pushes the packet to the
TX buffers.

- bta_sync, which sends a BTA and waits for the peripheral to reply

- set_max_rx_packet_size, used to configure the max rx packet size.

> Regarding the discussion how and where to implement control bus I have
> though about different alternatives:
> 1. Implement DSI-master as a parent dev which will create DSI-slave
> platform dev in a similar way as for MFD devices (ssbi.c seems to me a
> good example).
> 2. Create universal mipi-display-bus which will cover DSI, DBI and
> possibly other buses - they have have few common things - for example
> MIPI-DCS commands.
> 
> I am not really convinced to either solution all have some advantages
> and disadvantages.

I think a dedicated DSI bus and your alternatives all have the same
issues with splitting the DSI control into two. I've shared some of my
thoughts here:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.dri.devel/90651
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.dri.devel/91269
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.dri.devel/91272

I still think that it's best to consider DSI and DBI as a video bus (not
as a separate video bus and a control bus), and provide the packet
transfer methods as part of the video ops.

 Tomi



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  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-02 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-09 17:14 [PATCH/RFC v3 00/19] Common Display Framework Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-09 17:14 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 01/19] OMAPDSS: panels: Rename Kconfig options to OMAP2_DISPLAY_* Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-09 17:14 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 02/19] video: Add Common Display Framework core Laurent Pinchart
2013-09-02  8:42   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-09-03 11:29     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-09 17:14 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 03/19] video: display: Add video and stream control operations Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-09 17:14 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 04/19] video: display: Add display entity notifier Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-09 17:14 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 05/19] video: display: Graph helpers Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-09 17:14 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 06/19] video: display: OF support Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-13 14:37   ` Philipp Zabel
2013-08-21  1:02     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-21  9:10       ` Philipp Zabel
2013-08-22  0:51         ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-09 17:14 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 07/19] video: display: Add pixel coding definitions Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-09 17:14 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 08/19] video: display: Add MIPI DBI bus support Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-14  0:52   ` Rob Clark
2013-08-20 13:26     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-26 11:10   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-09-06 14:09     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-09-06 15:43       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-09-07  9:35         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-09-04 10:50   ` Vikas Sajjan
2013-09-06 14:37     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-09-18 10:59       ` Vikas Sajjan
2013-09-04 12:52   ` Vikas Sajjan
2013-09-06 14:56     ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-09 17:15 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 09/19] video: panel: Add DPI panel support Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-09 17:15 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 10/19] video: panel: Add R61505 " Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-09 17:15 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 11/19] video: panel: Add R61517 " Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-09 17:15 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 12/19] video: display: Add VGA Digital to Analog Converter support Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-09 17:15 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 13/19] video: display: Add VGA connector support Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-09 17:15 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 14/19] ARM: shmobile: r8a7790: Add DU clocks for DT Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-09 17:15 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 15/19] ARM: shmobile: r8a7790: Add DU device node to device tree Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-09 17:15 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 16/19] ARM: shmobile: marzen: Port DU platform data to CDF Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-09 17:15 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 17/19] ARM: shmobile: lager: " Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-09 17:15 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 18/19] ARM: shmobile: lager-reference: Add display device nodes to device tree Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-09 17:15 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 19/19] drm/rcar-du: Port to the Common Display Framework Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-14  0:43 ` [PATCH/RFC v3 00/19] " Rob Clark
2013-08-20 15:24   ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-20 18:40     ` Rob Clark
2013-08-21  7:09       ` Sascha Hauer
2013-08-21 12:22         ` Rob Clark
2013-09-06 16:16           ` Laurent Pinchart
2013-09-09 12:12           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-09-09 14:17             ` Rob Clark
2013-09-09 14:58               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-09-09 15:10                 ` Rob Clark
2013-09-02 11:06 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-09-30 13:48 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-02 12:23   ` Andrzej Hajda
2013-10-02 12:23     ` Andrzej Hajda
2013-10-02 13:24     ` Tomi Valkeinen [this message]
2013-10-02 13:24       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-02 13:24       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-09 14:08       ` Andrzej Hajda
2013-10-09 14:08         ` Andrzej Hajda
2013-10-11  6:37         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-11  6:37           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-11  6:37           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-11 11:19           ` Andrzej Hajda
2013-10-11 11:19             ` Andrzej Hajda
2013-10-11 12:30             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-11 12:30               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-11 12:30               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-11 14:16               ` Andrzej Hajda
2013-10-11 14:16                 ` Andrzej Hajda
2013-10-11 14:45                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-11 14:45                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-11 14:45                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-17  7:48                   ` Andrzej Hajda
2013-10-17  7:48                     ` Andrzej Hajda
2013-10-17  8:18                     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-17  8:18                       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-17  8:18                       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-17 12:26                       ` Andrzej Hajda
2013-10-17 12:26                         ` Andrzej Hajda
2013-10-17 12:55                         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-17 12:55                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-17 12:55                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2013-10-18 11:55                           ` Andrzej Hajda
2013-10-18 11:55                             ` Andrzej Hajda
2013-08-09 23:02 Laurent Pinchart
2013-08-09 23:02 ` Laurent Pinchart

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