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From: Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>,
	"Matt W. Benjamin" <matt@linuxbox.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Adam C. Emerson" <aemerson@linuxbox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pnfs: Kick a pnfs_layoutcommit_inode on recall
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 19:56:58 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53FCBC5A.4060304@plexistor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHQdGtT-B7NTP8T7ETgTJD1+84k_KW_5aOfrYjLpA04hoR3YsA@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/26/2014 06:36 PM, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Matt W. Benjamin <matt@linuxbox.com> wrote:
>> IIUC, the problem is the forechannel slot count, since the call you want to make synchronously is on the forechannel?


Matt no top post on a Linux mailing list ;-)

> Yep. layoutcommit will be sent on the fore channel, which is why it
> can deadlock with the initial layoutget (or whatever operation that
> triggered the layout recall).

Trond you said below:
> The above can deadlock if there are no session slots available to send
> the layoutcommit, in which case the recall won't complete, and the
> layoutget won't get a reply (which would free up the slot).

Why would the layoutget not-get-a-reply ?
This is how it goes with Both ganesha server and knfsd last I tested.

[1]
The LAYOUT_GET cause LAYOUT_RECALL case: (including the lo_commit)

client		Server                                     comments
~~~~~~          ~~~~~~                                     ~~~~~~~~
LAYOUT_GET ==> 	
           <==   LAYOUT_GET_REPLAY(ERR_RECALL_CONFLICT)
						<--------- fore-channel is free
           <==   RECALL
LAYOUT_COMMIT ==>
	    <==  LAYOUT_COMMIT_REPLAY
						<--------- fore-channel is free
RECALL_REPLY(NO_MATCHING) =>
						<--------- back-channel is free

Note that in this case the server is to send the RECALL only after
the error reply to LAYOUT_GET, specifically it is not aloud to get stuck
inside LAYOUT_GET and wait for the RECALL. (mandated by STD)

[2]
The LAYOUT_GET sent all the while a RECALL is on the wire:
client		Server                                     comments
~~~~~~          ~~~~~~                                     ~~~~~~~~
           <== RECALL
LAYOUT_GET ==> 	
           <== LAYOUT_GET_REPLAY(ERR_RECALL_CONFLICT)
						<--------- fore-channel is free
LAYOUT_COMMIT ==>
		LAYOUT_COMMIT_REPLAY
						<--------- fore-channel is free
RECALL_REPLY(NO_MATCHING) =>
						<--------- back-channel is free


[3]
Or the worst case that lo_commit needs to wait for the channel Similar
to [2] above:

client		Server                                     comments
~~~~~~          ~~~~~~                                     ~~~~~~~~
           <== RECALL
LAYOUT_GET ==> 	
initiate_lo_commit   ==>  slot is taken needs to wait

           <== LAYOUT_GET_REPLAY(ERR_RECALL_CONFLICT)
						<--------- fore-channel is free
LAYOUT_COMMIT ==>                               slot is now free lo_commit goes through
	   <== LAYOUT_COMMIT_REPLAY
						<--------- fore-channel is free
RECALL_REPLY(NO_MATCHING) =>
						<--------- back-channel is free

So the most important is that the server must not get stuck in lo_get
and since there is a slot for each channel the lo_commit can be sent
from within the recall.

What am I missing?

Thanks
Boaz


  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-26 16:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <pnfs block layout driver fixes V2>
2014-08-21 16:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 01/19] nfs: cap request size to fit a kmalloced page array Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 02/19] pnfs: do not pass uninitialized lsegs to ->free_lseg Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 03/19] pnfs: force a layout commit when encountering busy segments during recall Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-24 17:49     ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-24 19:18       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-26 14:10         ` [PATCH] pnfs: Kick a pnfs_layoutcommit_inode on recall Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 14:26           ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 14:37             ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 14:52               ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 14:55               ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 15:02                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 15:24                   ` Matt W. Benjamin
2014-08-26 15:36                     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 16:56                       ` Boaz Harrosh [this message]
2014-08-26 16:59                         ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 17:06                           ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 17:54                             ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 18:19                               ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 18:34                                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 18:41                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 19:46                                   ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-27  8:50                                     ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-27  8:22                                   ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-09-09  0:37     ` [PATCH 03/19] pnfs: force a layout commit when encountering busy segments during recall Trond Myklebust
2014-09-09  5:49       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09 14:38         ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 04/19] pnfs: don't check sequence on new stateids in layoutget Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 05/19] pnfs: retry after a bad stateid error from layoutget Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 06/19] pnfs: avoid using stale stateids after layoutreturn Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 07/19] pnfs: add flag to force read-modify-write in ->write_begin Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  3:50     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-09-09  5:53       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09 14:41         ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 08/19] pnfs: add return_range method Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-25 13:50     ` Anna Schumaker
2014-08-25 14:09       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-25 14:17         ` Anna Schumaker
2014-08-25 14:20           ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  3:57     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 09/19] pnfs: allow splicing pre-encoded pages into the layoutcommit args Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 10/19] pnfs/blocklayout: reject pnfs blocksize larger than page size Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 11/19] pnfs/blocklayout: improve GETDEVICEINFO error reporting Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 12/19] pnfs/blocklayout: plug block queues Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 13/19] pnfs/blocklayout: correctly decrement extent length Christoph Hellwig
2015-02-09  6:01     ` NeilBrown
2015-02-09 18:24       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 14/19] pnfs/blocklayout: remove read-modify-write handling in bl_write_pagelist Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  4:43     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 15/19] pnfs/blocklayout: don't set pages uptodate Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  4:48     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 16/19] pnfs/blocklayout: rewrite extent tracking Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-25 14:36     ` Anna Schumaker
2014-08-25 14:43       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-26  9:06         ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-09-09  4:50     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 17/19] pnfs/blocklayout: implement the return_range method Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  4:03     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 18/19] pnfs/blocklayout: return layouts on setattr Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  4:09     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 19/19] pnfs/blocklayout: allocate separate pages for the layoutcommit payload Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  4:52     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:13   ` pnfs block layout driver fixes V2 Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  4:12     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-09-09  5:54       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09 14:40         ` Trond Myklebust

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