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From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>
To: Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>
Cc: "Matt W. Benjamin" <matt@linuxbox.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Adam C. Emerson" <aemerson@linuxbox.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pnfs: Kick a pnfs_layoutcommit_inode on recall
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:54:22 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHQdGtTgcGiWbcZyAsaOzdB=RpdUx17vHcw1yxg7vS56BfwY+A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53FCBE9C.40906@plexistor.com>

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com> wrote:
> On 08/26/2014 07:59 PM, Trond Myklebust wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com> wrote:
>>> On 08/26/2014 06:36 PM, Trond Myklebust wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Matt W. Benjamin <matt@linuxbox.com> wrote:
>>>>> IIUC, the problem is the forechannel slot count, since the call you want to make synchronously is on the forechannel?
>>>
>>>
>>> Matt no top post on a Linux mailing list ;-)
>>>
>>>> Yep. layoutcommit will be sent on the fore channel, which is why it
>>>> can deadlock with the initial layoutget (or whatever operation that
>>>> triggered the layout recall).
>>>
>>> Trond you said below:
>>>> The above can deadlock if there are no session slots available to send
>>>> the layoutcommit, in which case the recall won't complete, and the
>>>> layoutget won't get a reply (which would free up the slot).
>>>
>>> Why would the layoutget not-get-a-reply ?
>>> This is how it goes with Both ganesha server and knfsd last I tested.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> The LAYOUT_GET cause LAYOUT_RECALL case: (including the lo_commit)
>>>
>>> client          Server                                     comments
>>> ~~~~~~          ~~~~~~                                     ~~~~~~~~
>>> LAYOUT_GET ==>
>>>            <==   LAYOUT_GET_REPLAY(ERR_RECALL_CONFLICT)
>>>                                                 <--------- fore-channel is free
>>>            <==   RECALL
>>> LAYOUT_COMMIT ==>
>>>             <==  LAYOUT_COMMIT_REPLAY
>>>                                                 <--------- fore-channel is free
>>
>> Beep! No free slots, so this hangs.
>>
>
> Beep! does not do a very good of a job to explain. Sorry
>
> What do you mean? which slot? which channel? Just above your text it says
> "fore-channel is free" so are you saying it is not free? why not.
> Please use more then one line of text to explain. It might be clear to
> you but not to me.

The deadlock occurs _if_ the above layout commit  is unable to get a
slot. You can't guarantee that it will, because the slot table is a
finite resource and it can be exhausted if you allow fore channel
calls to trigger synchronous recalls on the back channel that again
trigger synchronous calls on the fore channel. You're basically saying
that the client needs to guarantee that it can allocate 2 slots before
it is allowed to send a layoutget just in case the server needs to
recall a layout.

If, OTOH, the layoutcommit is asynchronous, then there is no
serialisation and the back channel thread can happily reply to the
layout recall even if there are no free slots in the fore channel.

>>> RECALL_REPLY(NO_MATCHING) =>
>>>                                                 <--------- back-channel is free
>
> Thanks
> Boaz
>



-- 
Trond Myklebust

Linux NFS client maintainer, PrimaryData

trond.myklebust@primarydata.com

  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-26 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <pnfs block layout driver fixes V2>
2014-08-21 16:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 01/19] nfs: cap request size to fit a kmalloced page array Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 02/19] pnfs: do not pass uninitialized lsegs to ->free_lseg Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 03/19] pnfs: force a layout commit when encountering busy segments during recall Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-24 17:49     ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-24 19:18       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-26 14:10         ` [PATCH] pnfs: Kick a pnfs_layoutcommit_inode on recall Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 14:26           ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 14:37             ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 14:52               ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 14:55               ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 15:02                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 15:24                   ` Matt W. Benjamin
2014-08-26 15:36                     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 16:56                       ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 16:59                         ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 17:06                           ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 17:54                             ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2014-08-26 18:19                               ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 18:34                                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 18:41                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 19:46                                   ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-27  8:50                                     ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-27  8:22                                   ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-09-09  0:37     ` [PATCH 03/19] pnfs: force a layout commit when encountering busy segments during recall Trond Myklebust
2014-09-09  5:49       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09 14:38         ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 04/19] pnfs: don't check sequence on new stateids in layoutget Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 05/19] pnfs: retry after a bad stateid error from layoutget Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 06/19] pnfs: avoid using stale stateids after layoutreturn Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 07/19] pnfs: add flag to force read-modify-write in ->write_begin Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  3:50     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-09-09  5:53       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09 14:41         ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 08/19] pnfs: add return_range method Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-25 13:50     ` Anna Schumaker
2014-08-25 14:09       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-25 14:17         ` Anna Schumaker
2014-08-25 14:20           ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  3:57     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 09/19] pnfs: allow splicing pre-encoded pages into the layoutcommit args Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 10/19] pnfs/blocklayout: reject pnfs blocksize larger than page size Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 11/19] pnfs/blocklayout: improve GETDEVICEINFO error reporting Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 12/19] pnfs/blocklayout: plug block queues Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 13/19] pnfs/blocklayout: correctly decrement extent length Christoph Hellwig
2015-02-09  6:01     ` NeilBrown
2015-02-09 18:24       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 14/19] pnfs/blocklayout: remove read-modify-write handling in bl_write_pagelist Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  4:43     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 15/19] pnfs/blocklayout: don't set pages uptodate Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  4:48     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 16/19] pnfs/blocklayout: rewrite extent tracking Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-25 14:36     ` Anna Schumaker
2014-08-25 14:43       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-26  9:06         ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-09-09  4:50     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 17/19] pnfs/blocklayout: implement the return_range method Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  4:03     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 18/19] pnfs/blocklayout: return layouts on setattr Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  4:09     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 19/19] pnfs/blocklayout: allocate separate pages for the layoutcommit payload Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  4:52     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:13   ` pnfs block layout driver fixes V2 Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  4:12     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-09-09  5:54       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09 14:40         ` Trond Myklebust

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