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From: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>
Cc: "Linux Media Mailing List" <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Mauro Carvalho Chehab" <mchehab@infradead.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Hyun Kwon" <hyun.kwon@xilinx.com>,
	"Laurent Pinchart" <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	"Michal Simek" <michal.simek@xilinx.com>,
	"Sören Brinkmann" <soren.brinkmann@xilinx.com>,
	"Sakari Ailus" <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	"Sylwester Nawrocki" <s.nawrocki@samsung.com>,
	"Prabhakar Lad" <prabhakar.csengg@gmail.com>,
	"Markus Elfring" <elfring@users.sourceforge.net>,
	"Lars-Peter Clausen" <lars@metafoo.de>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 25/44] [media] replace all occurrences of MEDIA_ENT_T_DEVNODE_V4L
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 15:54:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55DC7381.9090600@xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150825083236.37659d22@recife.lan>

On 08/25/15 13:32, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:23:24 +0200
> Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl> escreveu:
> 
>> On 08/23/15 22:17, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>>> Now that interfaces and entities are distinct, it makes no sense
>>> of keeping something named as MEDIA_ENT_T_DEVNODE.
>>>
>>> This change was done with this script:
>>>
>>> 	for i in $(git grep -l MEDIA_ENT_T|grep -v uapi/linux/media.h); do sed s,MEDIA_ENT_T_DEVNODE_V4L,MEDIA_ENT_T_V4L2_VIDEO, <$i >a && mv a $i; done
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/DocBook/media/v4l/media-ioc-enum-entities.xml b/Documentation/DocBook/media/v4l/media-ioc-enum-entities.xml
>>> index 5872f8bbf774..910243d4edb8 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/DocBook/media/v4l/media-ioc-enum-entities.xml
>>> +++ b/Documentation/DocBook/media/v4l/media-ioc-enum-entities.xml
>>> @@ -183,7 +183,7 @@
>>>  	    <entry>Unknown device node</entry>
>>>  	  </row>
>>>  	  <row>
>>> -	    <entry><constant>MEDIA_ENT_T_DEVNODE_V4L</constant></entry>
>>> +	    <entry><constant>MEDIA_ENT_T_V4L2_VIDEO</constant></entry>
>>>  	    <entry>V4L video, radio or vbi device node</entry>
>>>  	  </row>
>>
>> OK, this makes no sense and that ties in with my confusion of the previous patch.
>>
>> These are not device nodes, in the new scheme these are DMA entities (I know,
>> naming TDB) that have an associated interface.
> 
> Yes. Well, DMA is a bad name. It won't cover USB devices, where the DMA
> engine is outside the V4L2 drivers, nor it would work for RDS radio data,
> with may not need any DMA at all on no-USB devices, as the data flows via
> the I2C bus.
> 
>> I think a much better approach would be to add entity type(s) for such DMA
>> engines in patch 24, then use that new name in existing drivers and split
>> up the existing DEVNODE_V4L media_entity into a media_entity and a
>> media_intf_devnode:
> 
> Sorry, but I didn't get. That's precisely what I did ;)
> 
>> The current media_entity defined in struct video_device has to be replaced
>> by media_intf_devnode, and the DMA entity has to be added as a new entity
>> to these drivers.
> 
> If I do this way, it would break bisectability. I need first to replace
> the names, but keep them as entities, and then add the interfaces.
> 
>>
>> This reflects these two action items from our meeting:
>>
>> Migration: add v4l-subdev media_interface: Laurent
>> Migration: add explicit DMA Engine entity: Laurent
>>
>> Unless Laurent says differently I think this is something you'll have to
>> do given Laurent's workload.
> 
> Yes. The above action items are covered on this series.
> 
> What patch 24 does is to define the new namespace, moving the legacy
> symbols kept due to backward compatibility on a separate part of the
> header.
> 
> Then, patches 25-38 replace the occurrences of the deprecated names
> by the new ones.
> 
> Nothing is touched at the interfaces yet, to avoid breaking bisectability.

I don't follow why that would break bisect.

> Then, the next patches add interfaces support at the V4L side.

So this is not yet included in this patch series? That would explain
my confusion. If it is, then I need to take another look on Friday.

Regards,

	Hans

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From: hverkuil@xs4all.nl (Hans Verkuil)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v7 25/44] [media] replace all occurrences of MEDIA_ENT_T_DEVNODE_V4L
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 15:54:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55DC7381.9090600@xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150825083236.37659d22@recife.lan>

On 08/25/15 13:32, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:23:24 +0200
> Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl> escreveu:
> 
>> On 08/23/15 22:17, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>>> Now that interfaces and entities are distinct, it makes no sense
>>> of keeping something named as MEDIA_ENT_T_DEVNODE.
>>>
>>> This change was done with this script:
>>>
>>> 	for i in $(git grep -l MEDIA_ENT_T|grep -v uapi/linux/media.h); do sed s,MEDIA_ENT_T_DEVNODE_V4L,MEDIA_ENT_T_V4L2_VIDEO, <$i >a && mv a $i; done
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/DocBook/media/v4l/media-ioc-enum-entities.xml b/Documentation/DocBook/media/v4l/media-ioc-enum-entities.xml
>>> index 5872f8bbf774..910243d4edb8 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/DocBook/media/v4l/media-ioc-enum-entities.xml
>>> +++ b/Documentation/DocBook/media/v4l/media-ioc-enum-entities.xml
>>> @@ -183,7 +183,7 @@
>>>  	    <entry>Unknown device node</entry>
>>>  	  </row>
>>>  	  <row>
>>> -	    <entry><constant>MEDIA_ENT_T_DEVNODE_V4L</constant></entry>
>>> +	    <entry><constant>MEDIA_ENT_T_V4L2_VIDEO</constant></entry>
>>>  	    <entry>V4L video, radio or vbi device node</entry>
>>>  	  </row>
>>
>> OK, this makes no sense and that ties in with my confusion of the previous patch.
>>
>> These are not device nodes, in the new scheme these are DMA entities (I know,
>> naming TDB) that have an associated interface.
> 
> Yes. Well, DMA is a bad name. It won't cover USB devices, where the DMA
> engine is outside the V4L2 drivers, nor it would work for RDS radio data,
> with may not need any DMA at all on no-USB devices, as the data flows via
> the I2C bus.
> 
>> I think a much better approach would be to add entity type(s) for such DMA
>> engines in patch 24, then use that new name in existing drivers and split
>> up the existing DEVNODE_V4L media_entity into a media_entity and a
>> media_intf_devnode:
> 
> Sorry, but I didn't get. That's precisely what I did ;)
> 
>> The current media_entity defined in struct video_device has to be replaced
>> by media_intf_devnode, and the DMA entity has to be added as a new entity
>> to these drivers.
> 
> If I do this way, it would break bisectability. I need first to replace
> the names, but keep them as entities, and then add the interfaces.
> 
>>
>> This reflects these two action items from our meeting:
>>
>> Migration: add v4l-subdev media_interface: Laurent
>> Migration: add explicit DMA Engine entity: Laurent
>>
>> Unless Laurent says differently I think this is something you'll have to
>> do given Laurent's workload.
> 
> Yes. The above action items are covered on this series.
> 
> What patch 24 does is to define the new namespace, moving the legacy
> symbols kept due to backward compatibility on a separate part of the
> header.
> 
> Then, patches 25-38 replace the occurrences of the deprecated names
> by the new ones.
> 
> Nothing is touched at the interfaces yet, to avoid breaking bisectability.

I don't follow why that would break bisect.

> Then, the next patches add interfaces support at the V4L side.

So this is not yet included in this patch series? That would explain
my confusion. If it is, then I need to take another look on Friday.

Regards,

	Hans

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-25 13:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-23 20:17 [PATCH v7 00/44] MC next generation patches Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 01/44] [media] media: create a macro to get entity ID Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-24 17:24   ` Shuah Khan
2015-08-24 17:24     ` Shuah Khan
2015-08-24 18:00     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-24 18:00       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 02/44] [media] staging: omap4iss: get entity ID using media_entity_id() Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-24 17:53   ` Shuah Khan
2015-08-25  6:34   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 03/44] [media] omap3isp: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-24 18:14   ` Shuah Khan
2015-08-24 18:34     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2015-08-25  6:35   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 04/44] [media] media: add a common struct to be embed on media graph objects Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-24 20:07   ` Shuah Khan
2015-08-28 13:01     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 05/44] [media] media: use media_gobj inside entities Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-24 22:13   ` Shuah Khan
2015-08-28 13:02     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 06/44] [media] media: use media_gobj inside pads Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 07/44] [media] media: use media_gobj inside links Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  0:13   ` Shuah Khan
2015-08-28 12:54     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 08/44] [media] media: add messages when media device gets (un)registered Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 09/44] [media] media: add a debug message to warn about gobj creation/removal Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25 17:51   ` Shuah Khan
2015-08-26 14:51     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 10/44] [media] media: rename the function that create pad links Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25 18:55   ` Shuah Khan
2015-08-25 18:55     ` Shuah Khan
2015-08-25 18:55     ` Shuah Khan
2015-08-25 18:55     ` Shuah Khan
2015-08-26 14:54     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-26 14:54       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-26 14:54       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-26 14:54       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-28 13:08       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-28 13:08         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-28 13:08         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-28 13:08         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 11/44] [media] media: use entity.graph_obj.mdev instead of .parent Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  6:36   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25  6:36     ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25  6:36     ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25 19:25     ` Shuah Khan
2015-08-25 19:25       ` Shuah Khan
2015-08-25 19:25       ` Shuah Khan
2015-08-26 14:59       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-26 14:59         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-26 14:59         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 12/44] [media] media: remove media entity .parent field Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  6:37   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 13/44] [media] uapi/media.h: Declare interface types Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  6:46   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25 20:34   ` Shuah Khan
2015-08-25 20:34     ` Shuah Khan
2015-08-26 14:59     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 14/44] [media] media: add functions to allow creating interfaces Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  7:09   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25  9:26     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25 13:41       ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25  7:42   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25  9:57     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25 10:00       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  8:29   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25 10:16     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25 21:44       ` Shuah Khan
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 15/44] [media] media: get rid of an unused code Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  7:10   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25 10:10     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25 22:32       ` Shuah Khan
2015-08-26 15:17         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 16/44] [media] media: convert links from array to list Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25 22:48   ` Shuah Khan
2015-08-26 15:28     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 17/44] [media] media: make add link more generic Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 18/44] [media] media: make media_link more generic to handle interace links Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  7:28   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25  9:41     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  7:38   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25  9:53     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25 13:30       ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 19/44] [media] media: make link debug printk more generic Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  7:33   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25  9:45     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  9:48     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 20/44] [media] media: add support to link interfaces and entities Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  7:44   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25 10:01     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 21/44] [media] dvbdev: add support for interfaces Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  7:50   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25 10:04     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25 13:44       ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 22/44] [media] media: add a linked list to track interfaces by mdev Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  7:54   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25 10:12     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25 13:48       ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 23/44] [media] dvbdev: add support for indirect interface links Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  8:39   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25 10:17     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 24/44] [media] uapi/media.h: Fix entity namespace Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  8:58   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25  8:58     ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25 11:25     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25 11:25       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 25/44] [media] replace all occurrences of MEDIA_ENT_T_DEVNODE_V4L Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  9:23   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25  9:23     ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25 11:32     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25 11:32       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25 13:54       ` Hans Verkuil [this message]
2015-08-25 13:54         ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25 15:12         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25 15:12           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25 15:22           ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25 15:22             ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 26/44] [media] replace all occurrences of MEDIA_ENT_T_DEVNODE_DVB Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 27/44] [media] media: add macros to check if subdev or V4L2 DMA Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 28/44] [media] media: use macros to check for V4L2 subdev entities Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 29/44] [media] omap3/omap4/davinci: get rid of MEDIA_ENT_T_V4L2_SUBDEV abuse Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 30/44] [media] s5c73m3: fix subdev type Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 31/44] [media] s5k5baf: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 32/44] [media] davinci_vbpe: stop MEDIA_ENT_T_V4L2_SUBDEV abuse Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 33/44] [media] omap4iss: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 34/44] [media] v4l2-subdev: use MEDIA_ENT_T_UNKNOWN for new subdevs Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 35/44] [media] media controller: get rid of entity subtype on Kernel Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 36/44] [media] DocBook: update descriptions for the media controller entities Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 37/44] [media] dvb: modify core to implement interfaces/entities at MC new gen Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 38/44] [media] media: report if a pad is sink or source at debug msg Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 39/44] [media] uapi/media.h: Add MEDIA_IOC_G_TOPOLOGY ioctl Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  9:33   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-25 11:36     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25 11:36       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 40/44] [media] media: Use a macro to interate between all interfaces Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  9:26   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 41/44] [media] media: move mdev list init to gobj Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  9:28   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-23 20:17 ` [PATCH v7 42/44] [media] media-device: add pads and links to media_device Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25  9:29   ` Hans Verkuil
2015-08-23 20:18 ` [PATCH v7 43/44] [media] media_device: add a topology version field Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-23 20:18 ` [PATCH v7 44/44] [media] media-device: add support for MEDIA_IOC_G_TOPOLOGY ioctl Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2015-08-25 19:11 ` [PATCH v7 00/44] MC next generation patches Shuah Khan
2015-08-25 20:02   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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