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From: Anna Schumaker <Anna.Schumaker@netapp.com>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>, <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-api@vger.kernel.org>, <zab@zabbo.net>, <clm@fb.com>,
	<mtk.manpages@gmail.com>, <andros@netapp.com>,
	<hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/8] VFS: In-kernel copy system call
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 16:49:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55EF49CB.3030405@Netapp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150908204517.GC30681@birch.djwong.org>

On 09/08/2015 04:45 PM, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 11:08:03AM -0400, Anna Schumaker wrote:
>> On 09/05/2015 04:33 AM, Al Viro wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 04:25:27PM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is a bit of a surprising result, since in my testing in the
>>>> past, copy_{to/from}_user() is a major consumer of CPU time (50%
>>>> of a CPU core at 1GB/s).  What backing filesystem did you test on?
>>>
>>> While we are at it, was cp(1) using read(2)/write(2) loop or was it using
>>> something else (sendfile(2), for example)?
>>
>> cp uses a read / write loop, and has some heuristics for guessing an optimum buffer size.
> 
> ..but afaict cp doesn't fsync at the end, which means it's possible that
> the destination file's blocks are still delalloc and nothing's been flushed
> to disk yet.  What happens if you time (cp /tmp/a /tmp/b ; sync) ?

That's already how I was using cp :).  The example program in my man page also doesn't fsync at the end, so the extra sync at the end is needed for both.

Anna

> 
> 2048M / 1.667s = ~1200MB/s.
> 
> --D
> 
>>
>> Anna
>>
>>>
>>


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From: Anna Schumaker <Anna.Schumaker-HgOvQuBEEgTQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Al Viro <viro-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger-m1MBpc4rdrD3fQ9qLvQP4Q@public.gmane.org>,
	<linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	<linux-btrfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	<linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	<linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	<zab-ugsP4Wv/S6ZeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>,
	<clm-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org>,
	<mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	<andros-HgOvQuBEEgTQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	<hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/8] VFS: In-kernel copy system call
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 16:49:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55EF49CB.3030405@Netapp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150908204517.GC30681-PTl6brltDGh4DFYR7WNSRA@public.gmane.org>

On 09/08/2015 04:45 PM, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 11:08:03AM -0400, Anna Schumaker wrote:
>> On 09/05/2015 04:33 AM, Al Viro wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 04:25:27PM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is a bit of a surprising result, since in my testing in the
>>>> past, copy_{to/from}_user() is a major consumer of CPU time (50%
>>>> of a CPU core at 1GB/s).  What backing filesystem did you test on?
>>>
>>> While we are at it, was cp(1) using read(2)/write(2) loop or was it using
>>> something else (sendfile(2), for example)?
>>
>> cp uses a read / write loop, and has some heuristics for guessing an optimum buffer size.
> 
> ..but afaict cp doesn't fsync at the end, which means it's possible that
> the destination file's blocks are still delalloc and nothing's been flushed
> to disk yet.  What happens if you time (cp /tmp/a /tmp/b ; sync) ?

That's already how I was using cp :).  The example program in my man page also doesn't fsync at the end, so the extra sync at the end is needed for both.

Anna

> 
> 2048M / 1.667s = ~1200MB/s.
> 
> --D
> 
>>
>> Anna
>>
>>>
>>

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From: Anna Schumaker <Anna.Schumaker-HgOvQuBEEgTQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Al Viro <viro-3bDd1+5oDREiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger-m1MBpc4rdrD3fQ9qLvQP4Q@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-btrfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	zab-ugsP4Wv/S6ZeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org,
	clm-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org,
	mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	andros-HgOvQuBEEgTQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/8] VFS: In-kernel copy system call
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 16:49:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55EF49CB.3030405@Netapp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150908204517.GC30681-PTl6brltDGh4DFYR7WNSRA@public.gmane.org>

On 09/08/2015 04:45 PM, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 11:08:03AM -0400, Anna Schumaker wrote:
>> On 09/05/2015 04:33 AM, Al Viro wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 04:25:27PM -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is a bit of a surprising result, since in my testing in the
>>>> past, copy_{to/from}_user() is a major consumer of CPU time (50%
>>>> of a CPU core at 1GB/s).  What backing filesystem did you test on?
>>>
>>> While we are at it, was cp(1) using read(2)/write(2) loop or was it using
>>> something else (sendfile(2), for example)?
>>
>> cp uses a read / write loop, and has some heuristics for guessing an optimum buffer size.
> 
> ..but afaict cp doesn't fsync at the end, which means it's possible that
> the destination file's blocks are still delalloc and nothing's been flushed
> to disk yet.  What happens if you time (cp /tmp/a /tmp/b ; sync) ?

That's already how I was using cp :).  The example program in my man page also doesn't fsync at the end, so the extra sync at the end is needed for both.

Anna

> 
> 2048M / 1.667s = ~1200MB/s.
> 
> --D
> 
>>
>> Anna
>>
>>>
>>

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-08 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-04 20:16 [PATCH v1 0/8] VFS: In-kernel copy system call Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:16 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:16 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:16 ` [PATCH v1 1/9] vfs: add copy_file_range syscall and vfs helper Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:16   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:16   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 21:50   ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-04 20:16 ` [PATCH v1 2/8] x86: add sys_copy_file_range to syscall tables Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:16   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:16 ` [PATCH v1 3/8] btrfs: add .copy_file_range file operation Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:16   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 21:02   ` Josef Bacik
2015-09-04 21:02     ` Josef Bacik
2015-09-04 21:02     ` Josef Bacik
2015-09-09  8:39   ` David Sterba
2015-09-04 20:16 ` [PATCH v1 4/8] btrfs: Add mountpoint checking during btrfs_copy_file_range Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:16   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:16   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-09  9:18   ` David Sterba
2015-09-09 15:56     ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-09 15:56       ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:16 ` [PATCH v1 5/8] vfs: Remove copy_file_range mountpoint checks Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:16   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:16   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:17 ` [PATCH v1 6/8] vfs: Copy should check len after file open mode Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:17   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:17   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:17 ` [PATCH v1 7/8] vfs: Copy should use file_out rather than file_in Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:17   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:17 ` [PATCH v1 8/8] vfs: Fall back on splice if no copy function defined Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:17   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:17   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 21:08   ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-08 14:57     ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 14:57       ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 14:57       ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:17 ` [PATCH v1 9/8] copy_file_range.2: New page documenting copy_file_range() Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:17   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:17   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 21:38   ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-04 22:31     ` Andreas Dilger
2015-09-04 22:31       ` Andreas Dilger
2015-09-08 15:05       ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 15:05         ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 15:05         ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 15:04     ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 15:04       ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 15:04       ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 20:39       ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-09  9:16         ` David Sterba
2015-09-09 11:38         ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-09 11:38           ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-09 17:17           ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-09 17:31             ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-09 17:31               ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-09 17:31               ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-09 18:12               ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-09 18:12                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-09 19:25                 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-09 19:25                   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-10 15:42             ` David Sterba
2015-09-10 15:42               ` David Sterba
2015-09-10 16:43               ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-10 16:43                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-04 22:25 ` [PATCH v1 0/8] VFS: In-kernel copy system call Andreas Dilger
2015-09-04 22:25   ` Andreas Dilger
2015-09-05  8:33   ` Al Viro
2015-09-05  8:33     ` Al Viro
2015-09-08 15:08     ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 15:08       ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 15:08       ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 20:45       ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-08 20:49         ` Anna Schumaker [this message]
2015-09-08 20:49           ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 20:49           ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 15:07   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 15:07     ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 15:21 ` Pádraig Brady
2015-09-08 15:21   ` Pádraig Brady
2015-09-08 18:23   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 18:23     ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 19:10     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-08 19:10       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-08 20:03       ` Pádraig Brady
2015-09-08 20:03         ` Pádraig Brady
2015-09-08 21:29         ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-08 21:29           ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-08 21:45           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-08 21:45             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-08 22:39             ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-08 22:39               ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-08 23:08               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-08 23:08                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-09  1:19                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-09  1:19                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-09 20:09                 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-09 20:26                   ` Trond Myklebust
2015-09-09 20:26                     ` Trond Myklebust
2015-09-09 20:38                     ` Chris Mason
2015-09-09 20:38                       ` Chris Mason
2015-09-09 20:41                       ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-09 20:41                         ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-09 21:42                         ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-09 21:42                           ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-09 20:37                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-09 20:37                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-09 20:42                     ` Chris Mason
2015-09-09 20:42                       ` Chris Mason
2015-09-13 23:25                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-13 23:25                   ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-14 17:53                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-14 17:53                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-09 18:52               ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-09 18:52                 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-09 21:16                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-09 21:16                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-10 15:10                   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-10 15:10                     ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-10 15:49                     ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-10 15:49                       ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-10 11:40                 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn

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