From: Alan Burlison <Alan.Burlison@oracle.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: eric.dumazet@gmail.com, stephen@networkplumber.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Bug 106241] New: shutdown(3)/close(3) behaviour is incorrect for sockets in accept(3)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 12:39:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56262806.2090605@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151020.042419.299487241092379193.davem@davemloft.net>
On 20/10/2015 12:24, David Miller wrote:
> With two decades of precendence, applications will need to find a way
> to cope with the behavior on every existing Linux kernel out there.
>
> Even if we were to propose something here and change things, it won't
> be available on real sites for 6 months at a minimum, and only a an
> extremely small fraction of actual machines.
>
> It's more practical for userspace to cope with the bahvior. This is
> simply because coping with current behavior will work on every Linux
> kernel on the planet, and also it won't require us to potentially
> break any existing setups.
Yes, as I said I think in practice about the best that can be done is to
document the behaviour, although I think the assertion of their being
millions of apps that would be affected is an over-estimate. Only MT
apps that use accept() in one thread and shutdown() in another should be
impacted, i.e mainly threaded apps that act as network service providers
of one form or another.
But having said that, the behaviour of close() and poll() on sockets
being used in accept() still looks incorrect.
--
Alan Burlison
--
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-20 11:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-19 16:59 Fw: [Bug 106241] New: shutdown(3)/close(3) behaviour is incorrect for sockets in accept(3) Stephen Hemminger
2015-10-19 23:33 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-20 1:12 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-20 1:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-20 9:59 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-20 11:24 ` David Miller
2015-10-20 11:39 ` Alan Burlison [this message]
2015-10-20 13:19 ` Fw: " Eric Dumazet
2015-10-20 13:45 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-20 15:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-20 18:31 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-20 18:42 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-21 10:25 ` David Laight
2015-10-21 10:49 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-21 11:28 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-21 13:03 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-21 13:29 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-21 3:49 ` Al Viro
2015-10-21 14:38 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-21 15:30 ` David Miller
2015-10-21 16:04 ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-21 21:18 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-21 21:28 ` Al Viro
2015-10-21 16:32 ` Fw: " Eric Dumazet
2015-10-21 18:51 ` Al Viro
2015-10-21 20:33 ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-22 4:21 ` Al Viro
2015-10-22 10:55 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-22 18:16 ` Al Viro
2015-10-22 20:15 ` Alan Burlison
2015-11-02 10:03 ` David Laight
2015-11-02 10:29 ` Al Viro
2015-10-21 22:28 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-22 1:29 ` David Miller
2015-10-22 4:17 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-22 4:44 ` Al Viro
2015-10-22 6:03 ` Al Viro
2015-10-22 6:34 ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-22 17:21 ` Al Viro
2015-10-22 18:24 ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-22 19:07 ` Al Viro
2015-10-22 19:51 ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-22 21:57 ` Al Viro
2015-10-23 9:52 ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-23 13:02 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-23 13:20 ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-23 13:48 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-23 14:13 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-23 13:35 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-23 14:21 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-23 15:46 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-23 16:00 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-23 16:07 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-23 16:19 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-23 16:40 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-23 17:47 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-23 17:59 ` [PATCH net-next] af_unix: do not report POLLOUT on listeners Eric Dumazet
2015-10-25 13:45 ` David Miller
2015-10-24 2:30 ` [Bug 106241] New: shutdown(3)/close(3) behaviour is incorrect for sockets in accept(3) Al Viro
2015-10-27 9:08 ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-27 10:52 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-27 12:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-27 12:27 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-27 12:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-27 13:42 ` David Miller
2015-10-27 13:37 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-27 13:59 ` David Miller
2015-10-27 14:13 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-27 14:39 ` David Miller
2015-10-27 14:39 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-27 15:04 ` David Miller
2015-10-27 15:53 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-27 23:17 ` Al Viro
2015-10-28 0:13 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-28 12:35 ` Al Viro
2015-10-28 13:24 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-28 14:47 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-28 21:13 ` Al Viro
2015-10-28 21:44 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-28 22:33 ` Al Viro
2015-10-28 23:08 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-29 0:15 ` Al Viro
2015-10-29 3:29 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-29 4:16 ` Al Viro
2015-10-29 12:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-29 13:48 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-30 17:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-30 21:02 ` Al Viro
2015-10-30 21:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-30 21:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-30 22:33 ` Al Viro
2015-10-30 23:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-31 0:09 ` Al Viro
2015-10-31 15:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-31 19:34 ` Al Viro
2015-10-31 19:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-31 20:29 ` Al Viro
2015-11-02 0:24 ` Al Viro
2015-11-02 0:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-11-02 2:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-02 6:22 ` Al Viro
2015-10-31 20:45 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-31 21:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-31 21:51 ` Al Viro
2015-10-31 22:34 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-31 1:07 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-28 16:04 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-29 14:58 ` David Holland
2015-10-29 15:18 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-29 16:01 ` David Holland
2015-10-29 16:15 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-29 17:07 ` Al Viro
2015-10-29 17:12 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-30 1:54 ` David Miller
2015-10-30 1:55 ` David Miller
2015-10-30 5:44 ` David Holland
2015-10-30 17:43 ` David Laight
2015-10-30 21:09 ` Al Viro
2015-11-04 15:54 ` David Laight
2015-11-04 16:27 ` Al Viro
2015-11-06 15:07 ` David Laight
2015-11-06 19:31 ` Al Viro
2015-10-22 6:51 ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-22 11:18 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-22 11:15 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-22 6:15 ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-22 11:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-22 11:58 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-22 12:10 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-10-22 13:12 ` David Miller
2015-10-22 13:14 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-22 17:05 ` Al Viro
2015-10-22 17:39 ` Alan Burlison
2015-10-22 18:56 ` Al Viro
2015-10-22 19:50 ` Casper.Dik
2015-10-23 17:09 ` Al Viro
2015-10-23 18:30 ` Fw: " David Holland
2015-10-23 19:51 ` Al Viro
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