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From: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
To: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Cc: christoffer.dall@linaro.org, fu.wei@linaro.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, wei@redhat.com,
	al.stone@linaro.org, gg@slimlogic.co.uk,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/9] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: Gather KVM specific information in a structure
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 18:32:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56FABC1F.2040500@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56FAB7D2.1000508@linaro.org>

Daniel,

On 29/03/16 18:13, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> On 03/24/2016 06:53 PM, Julien Grall wrote:
>> Introduce a structure which are filled up by the arch timer driver and
>> used by the virtual timer in KVM.
>>
>> The first member of this structure will be the timecounter. More members
>> will be added later.
>>
>> A stub for the new helper isn't introduced because KVM requires the arch
>> timer for both ARM64 and ARM32.
>>
>> The function arch_timer_get_timecounter is kept for the time being and
>> will be dropped in a subsequent patch.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>
> 
>> Cc: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
>> Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
>> Cc: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
>>
>>      Changes in v3:
>>          - Rename the patch
>>          - Move the KVM changes and removal of arch_timer_get_timecounter
>>          in separate patches.
>> ---
>>   drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c | 12 +++++++++---
>>   include/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.h |  5 +++++
>>   2 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c b/drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c
>> index 5152b38..62bdfe7 100644
>> --- a/drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c
>> +++ b/drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c
>> @@ -468,11 +468,16 @@ static struct cyclecounter cyclecounter = {
>>   	.mask	= CLOCKSOURCE_MASK(56),
>>   };
>>
>> -static struct timecounter timecounter;
>> +static struct arch_timer_kvm_info arch_timer_kvm_info;
> 
> This structure is statically defined in this subsystem but not used in 
> this file and a couple of a accessors is added to let another subsystem 
> to access it.
> 
> That sounds there is something wrong here with the design of the current 
> code, virt/phys are mixed.
> 
> It isn't possible to split the virt/phys timer code respectively in 
> virt/kvm/arm/arch_timer.c and drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c ?

No, that'd be the wrong thing to do. The kernel uses *either* the virt
or phys timer depending on how it has been booted, and both counters are
in use.

What KVM (or any other hypervisor) needs from the timer subsystem is:
- an interrupt (so that it can force a guest exit when the timer fires),
- a way to convert the values programmed into the HW into a timer event
(which is what the time counter structure is for).

That allows the hypervisor to *emulate* a timer for the guest, and
that's what virt/kvm/arm/arch_timer.c is all about. We have a clear
separation of what is driving the HW vs what is emulating it, and I'm
quite eager to preserve that.

> At least, 'struct arch_timer_kvm_info' should belong to 
> virt/kvm/arm/arch_timer.c.

At the cost of mandating separate storage in the arm_arch_timer driver.
I do not find that much nicer, but if you prefer that, fine by me.

Thanks,

	M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
To: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Cc: al.stone@linaro.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, fu.wei@linaro.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, gg@slimlogic.co.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/9] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: Gather KVM specific information in a structure
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 18:32:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56FABC1F.2040500@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56FAB7D2.1000508@linaro.org>

Daniel,

On 29/03/16 18:13, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> On 03/24/2016 06:53 PM, Julien Grall wrote:
>> Introduce a structure which are filled up by the arch timer driver and
>> used by the virtual timer in KVM.
>>
>> The first member of this structure will be the timecounter. More members
>> will be added later.
>>
>> A stub for the new helper isn't introduced because KVM requires the arch
>> timer for both ARM64 and ARM32.
>>
>> The function arch_timer_get_timecounter is kept for the time being and
>> will be dropped in a subsequent patch.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>
> 
>> Cc: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
>> Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
>> Cc: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
>>
>>      Changes in v3:
>>          - Rename the patch
>>          - Move the KVM changes and removal of arch_timer_get_timecounter
>>          in separate patches.
>> ---
>>   drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c | 12 +++++++++---
>>   include/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.h |  5 +++++
>>   2 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c b/drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c
>> index 5152b38..62bdfe7 100644
>> --- a/drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c
>> +++ b/drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c
>> @@ -468,11 +468,16 @@ static struct cyclecounter cyclecounter = {
>>   	.mask	= CLOCKSOURCE_MASK(56),
>>   };
>>
>> -static struct timecounter timecounter;
>> +static struct arch_timer_kvm_info arch_timer_kvm_info;
> 
> This structure is statically defined in this subsystem but not used in 
> this file and a couple of a accessors is added to let another subsystem 
> to access it.
> 
> That sounds there is something wrong here with the design of the current 
> code, virt/phys are mixed.
> 
> It isn't possible to split the virt/phys timer code respectively in 
> virt/kvm/arm/arch_timer.c and drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c ?

No, that'd be the wrong thing to do. The kernel uses *either* the virt
or phys timer depending on how it has been booted, and both counters are
in use.

What KVM (or any other hypervisor) needs from the timer subsystem is:
- an interrupt (so that it can force a guest exit when the timer fires),
- a way to convert the values programmed into the HW into a timer event
(which is what the time counter structure is for).

That allows the hypervisor to *emulate* a timer for the guest, and
that's what virt/kvm/arm/arch_timer.c is all about. We have a clear
separation of what is driving the HW vs what is emulating it, and I'm
quite eager to preserve that.

> At least, 'struct arch_timer_kvm_info' should belong to 
> virt/kvm/arm/arch_timer.c.

At the cost of mandating separate storage in the arm_arch_timer driver.
I do not find that much nicer, but if you prefer that, fine by me.

Thanks,

	M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: marc.zyngier@arm.com (Marc Zyngier)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v4 1/9] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: Gather KVM specific information in a structure
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 18:32:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56FABC1F.2040500@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56FAB7D2.1000508@linaro.org>

Daniel,

On 29/03/16 18:13, Daniel Lezcano wrote:
> On 03/24/2016 06:53 PM, Julien Grall wrote:
>> Introduce a structure which are filled up by the arch timer driver and
>> used by the virtual timer in KVM.
>>
>> The first member of this structure will be the timecounter. More members
>> will be added later.
>>
>> A stub for the new helper isn't introduced because KVM requires the arch
>> timer for both ARM64 and ARM32.
>>
>> The function arch_timer_get_timecounter is kept for the time being and
>> will be dropped in a subsequent patch.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>
> 
>> Cc: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
>> Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
>> Cc: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
>>
>>      Changes in v3:
>>          - Rename the patch
>>          - Move the KVM changes and removal of arch_timer_get_timecounter
>>          in separate patches.
>> ---
>>   drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c | 12 +++++++++---
>>   include/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.h |  5 +++++
>>   2 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c b/drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c
>> index 5152b38..62bdfe7 100644
>> --- a/drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c
>> +++ b/drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c
>> @@ -468,11 +468,16 @@ static struct cyclecounter cyclecounter = {
>>   	.mask	= CLOCKSOURCE_MASK(56),
>>   };
>>
>> -static struct timecounter timecounter;
>> +static struct arch_timer_kvm_info arch_timer_kvm_info;
> 
> This structure is statically defined in this subsystem but not used in 
> this file and a couple of a accessors is added to let another subsystem 
> to access it.
> 
> That sounds there is something wrong here with the design of the current 
> code, virt/phys are mixed.
> 
> It isn't possible to split the virt/phys timer code respectively in 
> virt/kvm/arm/arch_timer.c and drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c ?

No, that'd be the wrong thing to do. The kernel uses *either* the virt
or phys timer depending on how it has been booted, and both counters are
in use.

What KVM (or any other hypervisor) needs from the timer subsystem is:
- an interrupt (so that it can force a guest exit when the timer fires),
- a way to convert the values programmed into the HW into a timer event
(which is what the time counter structure is for).

That allows the hypervisor to *emulate* a timer for the guest, and
that's what virt/kvm/arm/arch_timer.c is all about. We have a clear
separation of what is driving the HW vs what is emulating it, and I'm
quite eager to preserve that.

> At least, 'struct arch_timer_kvm_info' should belong to 
> virt/kvm/arm/arch_timer.c.

At the cost of mandating separate storage in the arm_arch_timer driver.
I do not find that much nicer, but if you prefer that, fine by me.

Thanks,

	M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-29 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-24 17:53 [PATCH v4 0/9] arm64: Add support for KVM with ACPI Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53 ` Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53 ` [PATCH v4 1/9] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: Gather KVM specific information in a structure Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53   ` Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53   ` Julien Grall
2016-03-29 17:13   ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-03-29 17:13     ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-03-29 17:13     ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-03-29 17:32     ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2016-03-29 17:32       ` Marc Zyngier
2016-03-29 17:32       ` Marc Zyngier
2016-03-30  9:06       ` Christoffer Dall
2016-03-30  9:06         ` Christoffer Dall
2016-03-30  9:12         ` Marc Zyngier
2016-03-30  9:12           ` Marc Zyngier
2016-03-30  9:52           ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-03-30  9:52             ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-03-30  9:52             ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-03-24 17:53 ` [PATCH v4 2/9] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: Extend arch_timer_kvm_info to get the virtual IRQ Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53   ` Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53   ` Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53 ` [PATCH v4 3/9] irqchip/gic-v2: Gather ACPI specific data in a single structure Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53   ` Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53   ` Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53 ` [PATCH v4 4/9] irqchip/gic-v2: Parse and export virtual GIC information Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53   ` Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53   ` Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53 ` [PATCH v4 5/9] irqchip/gic-v3: Gather all ACPI specific data in a single structure Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53   ` Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53   ` Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53 ` [PATCH v4 6/9] irqchip/gic-v3: Parse and export virtual GIC information Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53   ` Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53   ` Julien Grall
2016-04-01 10:13   ` Christoffer Dall
2016-04-01 10:13     ` Christoffer Dall
2016-04-01 10:13     ` Christoffer Dall
2016-04-01 10:25     ` Marc Zyngier
2016-04-01 10:25       ` Marc Zyngier
2016-04-01 10:25       ` Marc Zyngier
2016-04-04  9:14     ` Julien Grall
2016-04-04  9:14       ` Julien Grall
2016-04-04  9:14       ` Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53 ` [PATCH v4 7/9] KVM: arm/arm64: arch_timer: Rely on the arch timer to parse the firmware tables Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53   ` Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53   ` Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53 ` [PATCH v4 8/9] KVM: arm/arm64: vgic: Rely on the GIC driver " Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53   ` Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53   ` Julien Grall
2016-04-01 10:32   ` Christoffer Dall
2016-04-01 10:32     ` Christoffer Dall
2016-04-01 10:32     ` Christoffer Dall
2016-03-24 17:53 ` [PATCH v4 9/9] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: Remove arch_timer_get_timecounter Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53   ` Julien Grall
2016-03-24 17:53   ` Julien Grall
2016-03-29 14:39   ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-03-29 14:39     ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-03-29 14:39     ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-03-29 16:04     ` Julien Grall
2016-03-29 16:04       ` Julien Grall

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