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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/17] bitfield: Add non-constant field_{prep,get}() helpers
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 17:24:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <637a4183861a1f2cdab52b7652bfa7ed33fbcdd2.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdWAAGrQUZN18cnDTDUUhuPNTZTFkRMe2Sbf+s7CedPSxA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2021-11-23 at 09:36 +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:


Ah, here's your comment wrt. which one is nicer :)

> > > We have the upper-case (constant) versions, and already
> > > {u32,...}_get_bits()/etc.
> 
> TBH, I don't like the *_get_bits() API: in general, u32_get_bits() does
> the same as FIELD_GET(), but the order of the parameters is different?

I don't really see how "the order of parameters is different" is a
downside? Yeah it means if you're used to FIELD_GET() then you'll
retrain, but ...?

> (*_replace_bits() seems to be useful, though)

Indeed.

Also as I said in my other mail, the le32/be32/... variants are
tremendously useful, and they fundamentally cannot be expressed with the
FIELD_GET() or field_get() macros. IMHO this is a clear advantage to the
typed versions, and if you ask me we should get rid of the FIELD_GETand
FIELD_PREP entirely - difficult now, but at least let's not propagate
that?

johannes

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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	linux-aspeed@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	Amit Kucheria <amitk@kernel.org>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, Ping-Ke Shih <pkshih@realtek.com>,
	Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
	openbmc@lists.ozlabs.org,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org,
	Ludovic Desroches <ludovic.desroches@microchip.com>,
	Joel Stanley <joel@jms.id.au>, Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, Benoit Parrot <bparrot@ti.com>,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo.bianconi83@gmail.com>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Eduardo Valentin <edubezval@gmail.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>,
	Rajendra Nayak <rnayak@codeaurora.org>,
	Tero Kristo <kristo@kernel.org>, Andrew Jeffery <andrew@aj.id.au>,
	Keerthy <j-keerthy@ti.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org,
	Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@microchip.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/17] bitfield: Add non-constant field_{prep,get}() helpers
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 17:24:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <637a4183861a1f2cdab52b7652bfa7ed33fbcdd2.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdWAAGrQUZN18cnDTDUUhuPNTZTFkRMe2Sbf+s7CedPSxA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2021-11-23 at 09:36 +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:


Ah, here's your comment wrt. which one is nicer :)

> > > We have the upper-case (constant) versions, and already
> > > {u32,...}_get_bits()/etc.
> 
> TBH, I don't like the *_get_bits() API: in general, u32_get_bits() does
> the same as FIELD_GET(), but the order of the parameters is different?

I don't really see how "the order of parameters is different" is a
downside? Yeah it means if you're used to FIELD_GET() then you'll
retrain, but ...?

> (*_replace_bits() seems to be useful, though)

Indeed.

Also as I said in my other mail, the le32/be32/... variants are
tremendously useful, and they fundamentally cannot be expressed with the
FIELD_GET() or field_get() macros. IMHO this is a clear advantage to the
typed versions, and if you ask me we should get rid of the FIELD_GETand
FIELD_PREP entirely - difficult now, but at least let's not propagate
that?

johannes

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-23 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-22 15:53 [PATCH 00/17] Non-const bitfield helper conversions Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:53 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:53 ` [PATCH 01/17] bitfield: Add non-constant field_{prep,get}() helpers Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:53   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 16:32   ` Johannes Berg
2021-11-22 16:32     ` Johannes Berg
2021-11-23  1:17     ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-11-23  1:17       ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-11-23  8:36       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-23  8:36         ` [PATCH 01/17] bitfield: Add non-constant field_{prep, get}() helpers Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-23 16:24         ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2021-11-23 16:24           ` [PATCH 01/17] bitfield: Add non-constant field_{prep,get}() helpers Johannes Berg
2021-11-23 23:49           ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-11-23 23:49             ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-11-24  8:03             ` Johannes Berg
2021-11-24 13:59               ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-11-24 14:07                 ` Johannes Berg
2021-11-23 23:39         ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-11-23 23:39           ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-11-23  1:52     ` Alex Elder
2021-11-23  1:52       ` Alex Elder
2021-11-23  8:38       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-23  8:38         ` [PATCH 01/17] bitfield: Add non-constant field_{prep, get}() helpers Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-23  8:30     ` [PATCH 01/17] bitfield: Add non-constant field_{prep,get}() helpers Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-23  8:30       ` [PATCH 01/17] bitfield: Add non-constant field_{prep, get}() helpers Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-23 16:21       ` [PATCH 01/17] bitfield: Add non-constant field_{prep,get}() helpers Johannes Berg
2021-11-23 16:21         ` Johannes Berg
2021-11-23 16:31         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-23 16:31           ` [PATCH 01/17] bitfield: Add non-constant field_{prep, get}() helpers Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-24  8:24       ` [PATCH 01/17] bitfield: Add non-constant field_{prep,get}() helpers Kalle Valo
2021-11-22 15:53 ` [PATCH 02/17] clk: renesas: Use bitfield helpers Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:53   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:53 ` [PATCH/RFC 03/17] soc: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:53   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:53 ` [PATCH/RFC 04/17] ARM: OMAP2+: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:53   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:53 ` [PATCH/RFC 05/17] bus: omap_l3_noc: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:53   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:53 ` [PATCH/RFC 06/17] clk: ti: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:53   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 07/17] iio: st_sensors: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:54   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-23 23:35   ` Linus Walleij
2021-11-23 23:35     ` Linus Walleij
2021-11-22 15:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 08/17] iio: humidity: hts221: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:54   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-24 15:21   ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-11-22 15:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 09/17] iio: imu: st_lsm6dsx: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:54   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 10/17] media: ti-vpe: cal: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:54   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 11/17] mmc: sdhci-of-aspeed: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:54   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 12/17] pinctrl: aspeed: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:54   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 13/17] pinctl: ti: iodelay: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:54   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 17:52   ` Alexandre Belloni
2021-11-22 17:52     ` Alexandre Belloni
2021-11-22 15:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 14/17] regulator: ti-abb: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:54   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 16:31   ` Mark Brown
2021-11-22 16:31     ` Mark Brown
2021-11-22 15:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 15/17] thermal/ti-soc-thermal: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:54   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 16/17] ALSA: ice1724: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:54   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-23 11:24   ` Takashi Iwai
2021-11-23 11:24     ` Takashi Iwai
2021-11-22 15:54 ` [PATCH/RFC 17/17] rtw89: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 15:54   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-22 18:38   ` Larry Finger
2021-11-22 18:38     ` Larry Finger
2021-11-22 17:50 ` [PATCH 00/17] Non-const bitfield helper conversions Alexandre Belloni
2021-11-22 17:50   ` Alexandre Belloni
2021-11-23  8:20   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-11-23  8:20     ` Geert Uytterhoeven

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