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From: Kristina Martsenko <kristina.martsenko@arm.com>
To: Julien Thierry <julien.thierry@arm.com>,
	Amit Daniel Kachhap <amit.kachhap@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Cc: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@arm.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	Ramana Radhakrishnan <ramana.radhakrishnan@arm.com>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 9/10] KVM: arm64: docs: document KVM support of pointer authentication
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 15:04:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <648d66dd-519c-7567-a3e1-c23208f68cf2@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7bf19035-02ba-ae47-b08c-7d7622a45dbf@arm.com>

On 20/03/2019 13:37, Julien Thierry wrote:
> Hi Amit,
> 
> On 19/03/2019 08:30, Amit Daniel Kachhap wrote:
>> This adds sections for KVM API extension for pointer authentication.
>> A brief description about usage of pointer authentication for KVM guests
>> is added in the arm64 documentations.

[...]

>> diff --git a/Documentation/virtual/kvm/api.txt b/Documentation/virtual/kvm/api.txt
>> index 7de9eee..b5c66bc 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/virtual/kvm/api.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/virtual/kvm/api.txt
>> @@ -2659,6 +2659,12 @@ Possible features:
>>  	  Depends on KVM_CAP_ARM_PSCI_0_2.
>>  	- KVM_ARM_VCPU_PMU_V3: Emulate PMUv3 for the CPU.
>>  	  Depends on KVM_CAP_ARM_PMU_V3.
>> +	- KVM_ARM_VCPU_PTRAUTH_ADDRESS:
>> +	- KVM_ARM_VCPU_PTRAUTH_GENERIC:
>> +	  Enables Pointer authentication for the CPU.
>> +	  Depends on KVM_CAP_ARM_PTRAUTH and only on arm64 architecture. If
>> +	  set, then the KVM guest allows the execution of pointer authentication
>> +	  instructions. Otherwise, KVM treats these instructions as undefined.
>>  
> 
> Overall I feel one could easily get confused to whether
> PTRAUTH_ADDRESS/GENERIC are two individual features, whether one is a
> superset of the other, if the names are just an alias of one another, etc...
> 
> I think the doc should at least stress out that *both* flags are
> required to enable ptrauth in a guest. However it raises the question,
> if we don't plan to support the features individually (because we
> can't), should we really expose two feature flags? I seems odd to
> introduce two flags that only do something if used together...

Why can't we support the features individually? For example, if we ever
get a system where all CPUs support address authentication and none of
them support generic authentication, then we could still support address
authentication in the guest.

Thanks,
Kristina

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Kristina Martsenko <kristina.martsenko@arm.com>
To: Julien Thierry <julien.thierry@arm.com>,
	Amit Daniel Kachhap <amit.kachhap@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@arm.com>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Ramana Radhakrishnan <ramana.radhakrishnan@arm.com>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 9/10] KVM: arm64: docs: document KVM support of pointer authentication
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 15:04:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <648d66dd-519c-7567-a3e1-c23208f68cf2@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7bf19035-02ba-ae47-b08c-7d7622a45dbf@arm.com>

On 20/03/2019 13:37, Julien Thierry wrote:
> Hi Amit,
> 
> On 19/03/2019 08:30, Amit Daniel Kachhap wrote:
>> This adds sections for KVM API extension for pointer authentication.
>> A brief description about usage of pointer authentication for KVM guests
>> is added in the arm64 documentations.

[...]

>> diff --git a/Documentation/virtual/kvm/api.txt b/Documentation/virtual/kvm/api.txt
>> index 7de9eee..b5c66bc 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/virtual/kvm/api.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/virtual/kvm/api.txt
>> @@ -2659,6 +2659,12 @@ Possible features:
>>  	  Depends on KVM_CAP_ARM_PSCI_0_2.
>>  	- KVM_ARM_VCPU_PMU_V3: Emulate PMUv3 for the CPU.
>>  	  Depends on KVM_CAP_ARM_PMU_V3.
>> +	- KVM_ARM_VCPU_PTRAUTH_ADDRESS:
>> +	- KVM_ARM_VCPU_PTRAUTH_GENERIC:
>> +	  Enables Pointer authentication for the CPU.
>> +	  Depends on KVM_CAP_ARM_PTRAUTH and only on arm64 architecture. If
>> +	  set, then the KVM guest allows the execution of pointer authentication
>> +	  instructions. Otherwise, KVM treats these instructions as undefined.
>>  
> 
> Overall I feel one could easily get confused to whether
> PTRAUTH_ADDRESS/GENERIC are two individual features, whether one is a
> superset of the other, if the names are just an alias of one another, etc...
> 
> I think the doc should at least stress out that *both* flags are
> required to enable ptrauth in a guest. However it raises the question,
> if we don't plan to support the features individually (because we
> can't), should we really expose two feature flags? I seems odd to
> introduce two flags that only do something if used together...

Why can't we support the features individually? For example, if we ever
get a system where all CPUs support address authentication and none of
them support generic authentication, then we could still support address
authentication in the guest.

Thanks,
Kristina

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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-19  8:30 [PATCH v7 0/10] Add ARMv8.3 pointer authentication for kvm guest Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30 ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30 ` [PATCH v7 1/10] KVM: arm64: Propagate vcpu into read_id_reg() Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30   ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30 ` [PATCH v7 2/10] KVM: arm64: Support runtime sysreg visibility filtering Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30   ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30 ` [PATCH v7 3/10] KVM: arm64: Move hyp_symbol_addr to fix dependency Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30   ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-20  8:49   ` Julien Thierry
2019-03-20  8:49     ` Julien Thierry
2019-03-21  5:29     ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-21  5:29       ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-21  5:29       ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30 ` [PATCH v7 4/10] KVM: arm/arm64: preserve host HCR_EL2 value Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30   ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30 ` [PATCH v7 5/10] KVM: arm/arm64: preserve host MDCR_EL2 value Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30   ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-25 20:04   ` Kristina Martsenko
2019-03-25 20:04     ` Kristina Martsenko
2019-03-26  3:55     ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-26  3:55       ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30 ` [PATCH v7 6/10] KVM: arm64: Add vcpu feature flags to control ptrauth accessibility Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30   ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30 ` [PATCH v7 7/10] KVM: arm/arm64: context-switch ptrauth registers Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30   ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-20 12:13   ` Julien Thierry
2019-03-20 12:13     ` Julien Thierry
2019-03-21  6:08     ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-21  6:08       ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-21  8:29       ` Julien Thierry
2019-03-21  8:29         ` Julien Thierry
2019-03-25 20:04   ` Kristina Martsenko
2019-03-25 20:04     ` Kristina Martsenko
2019-03-26  4:03     ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-26  4:03       ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-26 18:01       ` Kristina Martsenko
2019-03-26 18:01         ` Kristina Martsenko
2019-03-27  3:21         ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-27  3:21           ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-27  3:21           ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-27 18:16           ` James Morse
2019-03-27 18:16             ` James Morse
2019-03-27 18:16             ` James Morse
2019-03-28 11:29             ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-28 11:29               ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-28 18:51   ` James Morse
2019-03-28 18:51     ` James Morse
2019-03-29  5:54     ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-29  5:54       ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-29  5:54       ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30 ` [PATCH v7 8/10] KVM: arm64: Add capability to advertise ptrauth for guest Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30   ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30   ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-25 20:05   ` Kristina Martsenko
2019-03-25 20:05     ` Kristina Martsenko
2019-03-26  4:12     ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-26  4:12       ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-26  4:12       ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30 ` [PATCH v7 9/10] KVM: arm64: docs: document KVM support of pointer authentication Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30   ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-20 13:37   ` Julien Thierry
2019-03-20 13:37     ` Julien Thierry
2019-03-20 15:04     ` Kristina Martsenko [this message]
2019-03-20 15:04       ` Kristina Martsenko
2019-03-20 18:06       ` Julien Thierry
2019-03-20 18:06         ` Julien Thierry
2019-03-20 20:56         ` Kristina Martsenko
2019-03-20 20:56           ` Kristina Martsenko
2019-03-21  6:41           ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-21  6:41             ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-25 20:05   ` Kristina Martsenko
2019-03-25 20:05     ` Kristina Martsenko
2019-03-27 10:44     ` Dave Martin
2019-03-27 10:44       ` Dave Martin
2019-03-27 11:49       ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-27 11:49         ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-27 13:50         ` Dave Martin
2019-03-27 13:50           ` Dave Martin
2019-03-28 10:13           ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-28 10:13             ` Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30 ` [kvmtool PATCH v7 10/10] KVM: arm/arm64: Add a vcpu feature for " Amit Daniel Kachhap
2019-03-19  8:30   ` Amit Daniel Kachhap

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