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From: Alex Elder <elder@linaro.org>
To: Elliot Berman <quic_eberman@quicinc.com>,
	Alex Elder <elder@linaro.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <quic_bjorande@quicinc.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 09/28] mailbox: Add Gunyah message queue mailbox
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 13:21:13 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <65af5abc-3719-95fe-041c-67d1d146aba1@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f626a867-7293-fd70-00d7-706d43342f5f@quicinc.com>

On 1/10/23 12:16 PM, Elliot Berman wrote:
>>> +    ret = gh_hypercall_msgq_send(msgq->tx_ghrsc->capid, 
>>> msgq_data->length,
>>> +                    (uintptr_t)msgq_data->data, tx_flags, &ready);
>>> +
>>> +    /**
>>> +     * unlikely because Linux tracks state of msgq and should not 
>>> try to
>>> +     * send message when msgq is full.
>>> +     */
>>
>> Is it just unlikely, or is it impossible?
>>
> 
> This would require multiple mailbox controllers interacting with the 
> same message queue.
> 
> The only way I can think this is possible is if the Gunyah drivers are 
> unloaded when the message queue is full; drivers are then re-loaded 
> before the receiver processes the messages. The initial internal state 
> of the message queue controller assumes that there is space in the 
> message queue. We would get a Tx vIRQ once space becomes available and 
> the message would then be attempted to sent again. Since there's a safe 
> flow to recover from a inconsistent internal state and it's very 
> unlikely to start in that state, I don't think we need to add calls to 
> check if the message queue is full during initialization.

First, your explanation is appreciated but more than what I
was looking for...  I just mentioned it because if it were
impossible, then there's no point in having this code handle
something that literally can't happen.

But as far as your explanation, I *hope* if the Gunyah drivers
are unloaded, everything gets fully cleaned up before that
completes.  There should be no in-flight activity, or
any "previous generation" messages that could be processed.

In any case, I think my question is answered.  Thanks.

					-Alex

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From: Alex Elder <elder@linaro.org>
To: Elliot Berman <quic_eberman@quicinc.com>,
	Alex Elder <elder@linaro.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <quic_bjorande@quicinc.com>,
	Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com>,
	Murali Nalajala <quic_mnalajal@quicinc.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: Trilok Soni <quic_tsoni@quicinc.com>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <quic_svaddagi@quicinc.com>,
	Carl van Schaik <quic_cvanscha@quicinc.com>,
	Prakruthi Deepak Heragu <quic_pheragu@quicinc.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 09/28] mailbox: Add Gunyah message queue mailbox
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 13:21:13 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <65af5abc-3719-95fe-041c-67d1d146aba1@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f626a867-7293-fd70-00d7-706d43342f5f@quicinc.com>

On 1/10/23 12:16 PM, Elliot Berman wrote:
>>> +    ret = gh_hypercall_msgq_send(msgq->tx_ghrsc->capid, 
>>> msgq_data->length,
>>> +                    (uintptr_t)msgq_data->data, tx_flags, &ready);
>>> +
>>> +    /**
>>> +     * unlikely because Linux tracks state of msgq and should not 
>>> try to
>>> +     * send message when msgq is full.
>>> +     */
>>
>> Is it just unlikely, or is it impossible?
>>
> 
> This would require multiple mailbox controllers interacting with the 
> same message queue.
> 
> The only way I can think this is possible is if the Gunyah drivers are 
> unloaded when the message queue is full; drivers are then re-loaded 
> before the receiver processes the messages. The initial internal state 
> of the message queue controller assumes that there is space in the 
> message queue. We would get a Tx vIRQ once space becomes available and 
> the message would then be attempted to sent again. Since there's a safe 
> flow to recover from a inconsistent internal state and it's very 
> unlikely to start in that state, I don't think we need to add calls to 
> check if the message queue is full during initialization.

First, your explanation is appreciated but more than what I
was looking for...  I just mentioned it because if it were
impossible, then there's no point in having this code handle
something that literally can't happen.

But as far as your explanation, I *hope* if the Gunyah drivers
are unloaded, everything gets fully cleaned up before that
completes.  There should be no in-flight activity, or
any "previous generation" messages that could be processed.

In any case, I think my question is answered.  Thanks.

					-Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-17 19:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 137+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-19 22:58 [PATCH v8 00/28] Drivers for gunyah hypervisor Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 01/28] docs: gunyah: Introduce Gunyah Hypervisor Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-09 21:34   ` Alex Elder
2023-01-09 21:34     ` Alex Elder
2023-01-10 17:54     ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-10 17:54       ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 02/28] dt-bindings: Add binding for gunyah hypervisor Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-09 21:34   ` Alex Elder
2023-01-09 21:34     ` Alex Elder
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 03/28] gunyah: Common types and error codes for Gunyah hypercalls Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-09 21:34   ` Alex Elder
2023-01-09 21:34     ` Alex Elder
2023-01-10 17:55     ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-10 17:55       ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 04/28] arm64: smccc: Include alternative-macros.h Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-09 21:34   ` Alex Elder
2023-01-09 21:34     ` Alex Elder
2023-01-10 22:55     ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-10 22:55       ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 05/28] virt: gunyah: Add hypercalls to identify Gunyah Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-09 21:34   ` Alex Elder
2023-01-09 21:34     ` Alex Elder
2023-01-10 17:56     ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-10 17:56       ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-17 19:20       ` Alex Elder
2023-01-17 19:20         ` Alex Elder
2023-01-17 19:20       ` Alex Elder
2023-01-17 19:20         ` Alex Elder
2023-01-17 22:29         ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-17 22:29           ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 06/28] virt: gunyah: Identify hypervisor version Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-09 21:34   ` Alex Elder
2023-01-09 21:34     ` Alex Elder
2023-01-10 17:56     ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-10 17:56       ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-17 19:21       ` Alex Elder
2023-01-17 19:21         ` Alex Elder
2023-01-17 22:29         ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-17 22:29           ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 07/28] mailbox: Allow direct registration to a channel Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-09 21:34   ` Alex Elder
2023-01-09 21:34     ` Alex Elder
2023-01-10 17:57     ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-10 17:57       ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-17 19:21       ` Alex Elder
2023-01-17 19:21         ` Alex Elder
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 08/28] virt: gunyah: msgq: Add hypercalls to send and receive messages Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 09/28] mailbox: Add Gunyah message queue mailbox Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-02  6:13   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-01-02  6:13     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-01-04  0:32     ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-04  0:32       ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-09 21:34   ` Alex Elder
2023-01-09 21:34     ` Alex Elder
2023-01-10 18:16     ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-10 18:16       ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-17 19:21       ` Alex Elder [this message]
2023-01-17 19:21         ` Alex Elder
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 10/28] gunyah: rsc_mgr: Add resource manager RPC core Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-17 22:33   ` Alex Elder
2023-01-17 22:33     ` Alex Elder
2023-01-20 23:18     ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-20 23:18       ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 11/28] gunyah: rsc_mgr: Add VM lifecycle RPC Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-09  7:13   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-01-09  7:13     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-01-09 18:51     ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-09 18:51       ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-18 18:26   ` Alex Elder
2023-01-18 18:26     ` Alex Elder
2023-01-20  1:31     ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-20  1:31       ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 12/28] gunyah: vm_mgr: Introduce basic VM Manager Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-09  9:05   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-01-09  9:05     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-01-09 19:38     ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-09 19:38       ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 13/28] gunyah: rsc_mgr: Add RPC for sharing memory Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-16  8:45   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-01-16  8:45     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 14/28] gunyah: vm_mgr: Add/remove user memory regions Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-20  5:34   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-01-20  5:34     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 15/28] gunyah: vm_mgr: Add ioctls to support basic non-proxy VM boot Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 16/28] samples: Add sample userspace Gunyah VM Manager Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 17/28] gunyah: rsc_mgr: Add platform ops on mem_lend/mem_reclaim Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 18/28] firmware: qcom_scm: Use fixed width src vm bitmap Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 19/28] firmware: qcom_scm: Register Gunyah platform ops Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-23 17:21   ` kernel test robot
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 20/28] docs: gunyah: Document Gunyah VM Manager Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 21/28] virt: gunyah: Translate gh_rm_hyp_resource into gunyah_resource Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 22/28] gunyah: vm_mgr: Add framework to add VM Functions Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 23/28] virt: gunyah: Add resource tickets Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 24/28] virt: gunyah: Add IO handlers Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 25/28] virt: gunyah: Add proxy-scheduled vCPUs Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 26/28] virt: gunyah: Add hypercalls for sending doorbell Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 27/28] virt: gunyah: Add irqfd interface Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2022-12-21 17:00   ` kernel test robot
2022-12-19 22:58 ` [PATCH v8 28/28] virt: gunyah: Add ioeventfd Elliot Berman
2022-12-19 22:58   ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-09 21:34 ` [PATCH v8 00/28] Drivers for gunyah hypervisor Alex Elder
2023-01-09 21:34   ` Alex Elder
2023-01-10 17:54   ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-10 17:54     ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-10 21:47   ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-10 21:47     ` Elliot Berman
2023-01-17 19:20     ` Alex Elder
2023-01-17 19:20       ` Alex Elder

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