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From: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com>
To: Auger Eric <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: "eric.auger.pro@gmail.com" <eric.auger.pro@gmail.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu" <kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu>,
	"joro@8bytes.org" <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com" <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>,
	"yi.l.liu@intel.com" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
	Robin Murphy <Robin.Murphy@arm.com>,
	"kevin.tian@intel.com" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"ashok.raj@intel.com" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <Marc.Zyngier@arm.com>,
	"peter.maydell@linaro.org" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Vincent Stehle <Vincent.Stehle@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 25/29] vfio-pci: Add a new VFIO_REGION_TYPE_NESTED region type
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2019 13:47:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6a640710-bb9d-8923-cfef-e57786ed699f@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9c1ea2db-5ba0-3cf5-3b38-2c4a125460e6@redhat.com>

On 07/06/2019 09:28, Auger Eric wrote:
>>> +static const struct vfio_pci_fault_abi fault_abi_versions[] = {
>>> +	[0] = {
>>> +		.entry_size = sizeof(struct iommu_fault),
>>> +	},
>>> +};
>>> +
>>> +#define NR_FAULT_ABIS ARRAY_SIZE(fault_abi_versions)
>>
>> This looks like it's leading to some dangerous complicated code to
>> support multiple user selected ABIs.  How many ABIs do we plan to
>> support?  The region capability also exposes a type, sub-type, and
>> version.  How much of this could be exposed that way?  ie. if we need
>> to support multiple versions, expose multiple regions.
> 
> This is something that was discussed earlier and suggested by
> Jean-Philippe that we may need to support several versions of the ABI
> (typicallu when adding PRI support).
> Exposing multiple region is an interesting idea and I will explore that
> direction.

At the moment the ABI support errors and PRI. We're considering setting
the fault report structure to 64 or 128 bytes (see "[PATCH v2 2/4]
iommu: Introduce device fault data"). 64-byte allows for 2 additional
fields before we have to introduce a new ABI version, while 128 byte
should last us a while.

But that's for adding new fields to existing fault types. It's probably
a good idea to have different region types in VFIO for different fault
types, since userspace isn't necessarily prepared to deal with them. For
example right now userspace doesn't have a method to complete
recoverable faults, so we can't add them to the queue.

Thanks,
Jean

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From: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com>
To: Auger Eric <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: "peter.maydell@linaro.org" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"kevin.tian@intel.com" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"ashok.raj@intel.com" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <Marc.Zyngier@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Vincent Stehle <Vincent.Stehle@arm.com>,
	Robin Murphy <Robin.Murphy@arm.com>,
	"kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu" <kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu>,
	"eric.auger.pro@gmail.com" <eric.auger.pro@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 25/29] vfio-pci: Add a new VFIO_REGION_TYPE_NESTED region type
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2019 13:47:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6a640710-bb9d-8923-cfef-e57786ed699f@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9c1ea2db-5ba0-3cf5-3b38-2c4a125460e6@redhat.com>

On 07/06/2019 09:28, Auger Eric wrote:
>>> +static const struct vfio_pci_fault_abi fault_abi_versions[] = {
>>> +	[0] = {
>>> +		.entry_size = sizeof(struct iommu_fault),
>>> +	},
>>> +};
>>> +
>>> +#define NR_FAULT_ABIS ARRAY_SIZE(fault_abi_versions)
>>
>> This looks like it's leading to some dangerous complicated code to
>> support multiple user selected ABIs.  How many ABIs do we plan to
>> support?  The region capability also exposes a type, sub-type, and
>> version.  How much of this could be exposed that way?  ie. if we need
>> to support multiple versions, expose multiple regions.
> 
> This is something that was discussed earlier and suggested by
> Jean-Philippe that we may need to support several versions of the ABI
> (typicallu when adding PRI support).
> Exposing multiple region is an interesting idea and I will explore that
> direction.

At the moment the ABI support errors and PRI. We're considering setting
the fault report structure to 64 or 128 bytes (see "[PATCH v2 2/4]
iommu: Introduce device fault data"). 64-byte allows for 2 additional
fields before we have to introduce a new ABI version, while 128 byte
should last us a while.

But that's for adding new fields to existing fault types. It's probably
a good idea to have different region types in VFIO for different fault
types, since userspace isn't necessarily prepared to deal with them. For
example right now userspace doesn't have a method to complete
recoverable faults, so we can't add them to the queue.

Thanks,
Jean
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From: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com>
To: Auger Eric <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: "kevin.tian@intel.com" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com" <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>,
	"ashok.raj@intel.com" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <Marc.Zyngier@arm.com>,
	"joro@8bytes.org" <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"yi.l.liu@intel.com" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	Vincent Stehle <Vincent.Stehle@arm.com>,
	Robin Murphy <Robin.Murphy@arm.com>,
	"kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu" <kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu>,
	"eric.auger.pro@gmail.com" <eric.auger.pro@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 25/29] vfio-pci: Add a new VFIO_REGION_TYPE_NESTED region type
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2019 13:47:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6a640710-bb9d-8923-cfef-e57786ed699f@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9c1ea2db-5ba0-3cf5-3b38-2c4a125460e6@redhat.com>

On 07/06/2019 09:28, Auger Eric wrote:
>>> +static const struct vfio_pci_fault_abi fault_abi_versions[] = {
>>> +	[0] = {
>>> +		.entry_size = sizeof(struct iommu_fault),
>>> +	},
>>> +};
>>> +
>>> +#define NR_FAULT_ABIS ARRAY_SIZE(fault_abi_versions)
>>
>> This looks like it's leading to some dangerous complicated code to
>> support multiple user selected ABIs.  How many ABIs do we plan to
>> support?  The region capability also exposes a type, sub-type, and
>> version.  How much of this could be exposed that way?  ie. if we need
>> to support multiple versions, expose multiple regions.
> 
> This is something that was discussed earlier and suggested by
> Jean-Philippe that we may need to support several versions of the ABI
> (typicallu when adding PRI support).
> Exposing multiple region is an interesting idea and I will explore that
> direction.

At the moment the ABI support errors and PRI. We're considering setting
the fault report structure to 64 or 128 bytes (see "[PATCH v2 2/4]
iommu: Introduce device fault data"). 64-byte allows for 2 additional
fields before we have to introduce a new ABI version, while 128 byte
should last us a while.

But that's for adding new fields to existing fault types. It's probably
a good idea to have different region types in VFIO for different fault
types, since userspace isn't necessarily prepared to deal with them. For
example right now userspace doesn't have a method to complete
recoverable faults, so we can't add them to the queue.

Thanks,
Jean
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-07 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 192+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-26 16:09 [PATCH v8 00/29] SMMUv3 Nested Stage Setup Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 01/29] driver core: Add per device iommu param Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 02/29] iommu: Introduce device fault data Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 03/29] iommu: Introduce device fault report API Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 04/29] iommu: Add recoverable fault reporting Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-06-03 22:31   ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-03 22:31     ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-03 22:31     ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-04 15:48     ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-04 15:48       ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-04 15:48       ` Jacob Pan
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 05/29] iommu: Add a timeout parameter for PRQ response Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-06-03 22:32   ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-03 22:32     ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-03 22:32     ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-04 10:52     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-04 10:52       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-04 10:52       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-04 15:50       ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-04 15:50         ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-04 15:50         ` Jacob Pan
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 06/29] trace/iommu: Add sva trace events Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 07/29] iommu: Use device fault trace event Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 08/29] iommu: Introduce attach/detach_pasid_table API Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 09/29] iommu: Introduce cache_invalidate API Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 10/29] iommu: Introduce bind/unbind_guest_msi Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 11/29] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Maintain a SID->device structure Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 12/29] iommu/smmuv3: Dynamically allocate s1_cfg and s2_cfg Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 13/29] iommu/smmuv3: Get prepared for nested stage support Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 14/29] iommu/smmuv3: Implement attach/detach_pasid_table Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 15/29] iommu/smmuv3: Introduce __arm_smmu_tlb_inv_asid/s1_range_nosync Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 16/29] iommu/smmuv3: Implement cache_invalidate Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 17/29] dma-iommu: Implement NESTED_MSI cookie Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 18/29] iommu/smmuv3: Nested mode single MSI doorbell per domain enforcement Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 19/29] iommu/smmuv3: Enforce incompatibility between nested mode and HW MSI regions Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 20/29] iommu/smmuv3: Implement bind/unbind_guest_msi Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 21/29] iommu/smmuv3: Report non recoverable faults Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 22/29] vfio: VFIO_IOMMU_ATTACH/DETACH_PASID_TABLE Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-06-03 22:32   ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-03 22:32     ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-03 22:32     ` Alex Williamson
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 23/29] vfio: VFIO_IOMMU_CACHE_INVALIDATE Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-06-14 12:38   ` Liu, Yi L
2019-06-14 12:38     ` Liu, Yi L
2019-06-14 12:38     ` Liu, Yi L
2019-06-14 13:17     ` Auger Eric
2019-06-14 13:17       ` Auger Eric
2019-06-14 13:17       ` Auger Eric
2019-05-26 16:09 ` [PATCH v8 24/29] vfio: VFIO_IOMMU_BIND/UNBIND_MSI Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:09   ` Eric Auger
2019-06-03 22:32   ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-03 22:32     ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-03 22:32     ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-07  8:30     ` Auger Eric
2019-06-07  8:30       ` Auger Eric
2019-06-07  8:30       ` Auger Eric
2019-05-26 16:10 ` [PATCH v8 25/29] vfio-pci: Add a new VFIO_REGION_TYPE_NESTED region type Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:10   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:10   ` Eric Auger
2019-06-03 22:31   ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-03 22:31     ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-03 22:31     ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-07  8:28     ` Auger Eric
2019-06-07  8:28       ` Auger Eric
2019-06-07  8:28       ` Auger Eric
2019-06-07 12:47       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker [this message]
2019-06-07 12:47         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-07 12:47         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-07 16:29       ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-07 16:29         ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-07 16:29         ` Alex Williamson
2019-05-26 16:10 ` [PATCH v8 26/29] vfio-pci: Register an iommu fault handler Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:10   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:10   ` Eric Auger
2019-06-03 22:31   ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-03 22:31     ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-03 22:31     ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-04 16:11     ` Auger Eric
2019-06-04 16:11       ` Auger Eric
2019-06-04 16:11       ` Auger Eric
2019-06-05 22:45       ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-05 22:45         ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-05 22:45         ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-06 18:54         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-06 18:54           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-06 18:54           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-06 20:29           ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-06 20:29             ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-06 20:29             ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-07  7:02             ` Auger Eric
2019-06-07  7:02               ` Auger Eric
2019-06-07  7:02               ` Auger Eric
2019-06-07 10:28             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-07 10:28               ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-07 10:28               ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-07 17:43               ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-07 17:43                 ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-07 17:43                 ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-10 12:45                 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-10 12:45                   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-10 12:45                   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-10 21:31                   ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-10 21:31                     ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-10 21:31                     ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-11 13:14                     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-11 13:14                       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-11 13:14                       ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-12 18:53                       ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-12 18:53                         ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-12 18:53                         ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-18 14:04                         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-18 14:04                           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-18 14:04                           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-19  0:19                           ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-19  0:19                             ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-19  0:19                             ` Jacob Pan
2019-06-19 11:44                             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-19 11:44                               ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-19 11:44                               ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-07-11 13:07                           ` Auger Eric
2019-07-11 13:07                             ` Auger Eric
2019-07-11 13:07                             ` Auger Eric
2019-06-07 12:48   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-07 12:48     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-07 12:48     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2019-06-07 14:18     ` Auger Eric
2019-06-07 14:18       ` Auger Eric
2019-06-07 14:18       ` Auger Eric
2019-05-26 16:10 ` [PATCH v8 27/29] vfio_pci: Allow to mmap the fault queue Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:10   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:10   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:10 ` [PATCH v8 28/29] vfio-pci: Add VFIO_PCI_DMA_FAULT_IRQ_INDEX Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:10   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:10   ` Eric Auger
2019-06-03 22:31   ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-03 22:31     ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-03 22:31     ` Alex Williamson
2019-06-04 16:11     ` Auger Eric
2019-06-04 16:11       ` Auger Eric
2019-06-04 16:11       ` Auger Eric
2019-05-26 16:10 ` [PATCH v8 29/29] vfio: Document nested stage control Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:10   ` Eric Auger
2019-05-26 16:10   ` Eric Auger

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