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From: Marko Rauhamaa <marko.rauhamaa@f-secure.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@primarydata.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>,
	"J . Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@canonical.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ovl: don't expose EOPENSTALE to userspace
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 17:06:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8737cv5kli.fsf@drapion.f-secure.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170426134731.GB5214@veci.piliscsaba.szeredi.hu> (Miklos Szeredi's message of "Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:47:31 +0200")

Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>:

> I'm looking at the EOPENSTALE story and it very much looks like we can
> just replace the single use with ESTALE and handle the lookup retry
> logic nuances inside the lookup code...

The fanotify problem is not simply a matter of choosing a POSIX name for
an error. The question is, what problems should an fanotify application
be prepared to handle and what should it do about them?

Since a misbehaving fanotify application is likely to hang the entire
operating system, it needs very clear guidelines for correct behavior.
In particular, when the application does a read(2) on an fanotify file
descriptor and gets back an error code, how is the application to
recover gracefully and safely?

Amir's patch shields the fanotify application from EOPENSTALE. I would
very much like an extensive list of errors that read(2) on a fanotify fd
can return. As it stands, I'm only aware of EAGAIN in the nonblocking
case and EINTR in the blocking case -- and even those haven't been
explicitly documented.


Marko

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From: Marko Rauhamaa <marko.rauhamaa@f-secure.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@primarydata.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>,
	"J . Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@canonical.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	<linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<stable@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ovl: don't expose EOPENSTALE to userspace
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 17:06:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8737cv5kli.fsf@drapion.f-secure.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170426134731.GB5214@veci.piliscsaba.szeredi.hu> (Miklos Szeredi's message of "Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:47:31 +0200")

Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>:

> I'm looking at the EOPENSTALE story and it very much looks like we can
> just replace the single use with ESTALE and handle the lookup retry
> logic nuances inside the lookup code...

The fanotify problem is not simply a matter of choosing a POSIX name for
an error. The question is, what problems should an fanotify application
be prepared to handle and what should it do about them?

Since a misbehaving fanotify application is likely to hang the entire
operating system, it needs very clear guidelines for correct behavior.
In particular, when the application does a read(2) on an fanotify file
descriptor and gets back an error code, how is the application to
recover gracefully and safely?

Amir's patch shields the fanotify application from EOPENSTALE. I would
very much like an extensive list of errors that read(2) on a fanotify fd
can return. As it stands, I'm only aware of EAGAIN in the nonblocking
case and EINTR in the blocking case -- and even those haven't been
explicitly documented.


Marko

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-26 14:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-25 13:57 [PATCH] ovl: don't expose EOPENSTALE to userspace Amir Goldstein
2017-04-26 13:47 ` Miklos Szeredi
2017-04-26 14:06   ` Marko Rauhamaa [this message]
2017-04-26 14:06     ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-04-26 15:45     ` Amir Goldstein
2017-04-27  7:40       ` Marko Rauhamaa
2017-04-27  7:40         ` Marko Rauhamaa

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