From: Dario Faggioli <dfaggioli@suse.com>
To: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Cc: "Kevin Tian" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
"Wei Liu" <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
"Jan Beulich" <jbeulich@suse.com>,
"Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
"George Dunlap" <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
"Tim Deegan" <tim@xen.org>,
"Robert VanVossen" <robert.vanvossen@dornerworks.com>,
"Julien Grall" <julien.grall@arm.com>,
"Paul Durrant" <paul.durrant@citrix.com>,
"Josh Whitehead" <josh.whitehead@dornerworks.com>,
"Meng Xu" <mengxu@cis.upenn.edu>,
"Jun Nakajima" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
"Ian Jackson" <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/49] xen: add core scheduling support
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:28:25 +0200 [thread overview]
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On Thu, 2019-04-11 at 09:16 +0200, Juergen Gross wrote:
> On 11/04/2019 02:34, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> > Also, it's Phoronix again. I don't especially love it, but I'm
> > still
> > working on convincing our own internal automated benchmarking tool
> > (which I like a lot more :-) ) to be a good friend of Xen. :-P
>
> I think the Phoronix tests as such are not that bad, its the way they
> are used by Phoronix which is completely idiotic.
>
Sure, that is the main problem.
About the suite itself, the fact that it is kind of a black box, can be
a very good thing, but also a not so good one.
Opaqueness is, AFAIUI, among its design goals, so I can't possibly
complain about that. And in fact, that is what makes it so easy and
quick to play with it. :-)
If you want to tweak the configuration of a benchmark, or change how
they're run, beside the config options that are pre-defined for each
benchmark, (e.g., do stuff like adding `numactl blabla` "in front" of
some), that is a lot less obvious or easy. And yes, this is somewhat
the case for most, if not all, the benchmarking suite, but I find
Phoronix makes this _particularly_ tricky.
Anyway... :-D :-D
Regards
--
Dario Faggioli, Ph.D
http://about.me/dario.faggioli
Virtualization Software Engineer
SUSE Labs, SUSE https://www.suse.com/
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From: Dario Faggioli <dfaggioli@suse.com>
To: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Cc: "Kevin Tian" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
"Wei Liu" <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
"Jan Beulich" <jbeulich@suse.com>,
"Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
"George Dunlap" <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
"Tim Deegan" <tim@xen.org>,
"Robert VanVossen" <robert.vanvossen@dornerworks.com>,
"Julien Grall" <julien.grall@arm.com>,
"Paul Durrant" <paul.durrant@citrix.com>,
"Josh Whitehead" <josh.whitehead@dornerworks.com>,
"Meng Xu" <mengxu@cis.upenn.edu>,
"Jun Nakajima" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
"Ian Jackson" <ian.jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH RFC 00/49] xen: add core scheduling support
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2019 15:28:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9897c0cd2e850d303bdb352a620d429717055964.camel@suse.com> (raw)
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On Thu, 2019-04-11 at 09:16 +0200, Juergen Gross wrote:
> On 11/04/2019 02:34, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> > Also, it's Phoronix again. I don't especially love it, but I'm
> > still
> > working on convincing our own internal automated benchmarking tool
> > (which I like a lot more :-) ) to be a good friend of Xen. :-P
>
> I think the Phoronix tests as such are not that bad, its the way they
> are used by Phoronix which is completely idiotic.
>
Sure, that is the main problem.
About the suite itself, the fact that it is kind of a black box, can be
a very good thing, but also a not so good one.
Opaqueness is, AFAIUI, among its design goals, so I can't possibly
complain about that. And in fact, that is what makes it so easy and
quick to play with it. :-)
If you want to tweak the configuration of a benchmark, or change how
they're run, beside the config options that are pre-defined for each
benchmark, (e.g., do stuff like adding `numactl blabla` "in front" of
some), that is a lot less obvious or easy. And yes, this is somewhat
the case for most, if not all, the benchmarking suite, but I find
Phoronix makes this _particularly_ tricky.
Anyway... :-D :-D
Regards
--
Dario Faggioli, Ph.D
http://about.me/dario.faggioli
Virtualization Software Engineer
SUSE Labs, SUSE https://www.suse.com/
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Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-03-29 15:08 [PATCH RFC 00/49] xen: add core scheduling support Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:08 ` [PATCH RFC 01/49] xen/sched: call cpu_disable_scheduler() via cpu notifier Juergen Gross
2019-04-01 9:21 ` Julien Grall
2019-04-01 9:40 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-01 10:29 ` Julien Grall
2019-04-01 10:37 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-01 13:21 ` Julien Grall
2019-04-01 13:33 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-01 14:01 ` Julien Grall
2019-04-01 14:23 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-01 15:15 ` Julien Grall
2019-04-01 16:00 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-01 17:17 ` Julien Grall
2019-04-16 19:34 ` Stefano Stabellini
2019-04-16 19:34 ` [Xen-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2019-03-29 15:08 ` [PATCH RFC 02/49] xen: add helper for calling notifier_call_chain() to common/cpu.c Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:08 ` [PATCH RFC 03/49] xen: add new cpu notifier action CPU_RESUME_FAILED Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:08 ` [PATCH RFC 04/49] xen: don't free percpu areas during suspend Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:08 ` [PATCH RFC 05/49] xen/cpupool: simplify suspend/resume handling Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:08 ` [PATCH RFC 06/49] xen/sched: don't disable scheduler on cpus during suspend Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:08 ` [PATCH RFC 07/49] xen/sched: fix credit2 smt idle handling Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 18:22 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-03-29 15:08 ` [PATCH RFC 08/49] xen/sched: use new sched_item instead of vcpu in scheduler interfaces Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 18:42 ` Andrew Cooper
2019-03-30 10:24 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-01 6:06 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-01 7:05 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-04-01 8:19 ` Andrew Cooper
2019-04-01 8:49 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-01 15:15 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-03-29 15:08 ` [PATCH RFC 09/49] xen/sched: alloc struct sched_item for each vcpu Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:08 ` [PATCH RFC 10/49] xen/sched: move per-vcpu scheduler private data pointer to sched_item Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:08 ` [PATCH RFC 11/49] xen/sched: build a linked list of struct sched_item Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:08 ` [PATCH RFC 12/49] xen/sched: introduce struct sched_resource Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:08 ` [PATCH RFC 13/49] xen/sched: let pick_cpu return a scheduler resource Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:08 ` [PATCH RFC 14/49] xen/sched: switch schedule_data.curr to point at sched_item Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 15/49] xen/sched: move per cpu scheduler private data into struct sched_resource Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 16/49] xen/sched: switch vcpu_schedule_lock to item_schedule_lock Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 17/49] xen/sched: move some per-vcpu items to struct sched_item Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 21:33 ` Andrew Cooper
2019-03-30 9:59 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-01 5:59 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-01 8:05 ` Jan Beulich
2019-04-01 8:26 ` Andrew Cooper
2019-04-01 8:41 ` Jan Beulich
2019-04-01 8:45 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-01 8:01 ` Jan Beulich
2019-04-01 8:33 ` Andrew Cooper
2019-04-01 8:44 ` Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 18/49] xen/sched: add scheduler helpers hiding vcpu Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 19/49] xen/sched: add domain pointer to struct sched_item Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 20/49] xen/sched: add id " Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 21/49] xen/sched: rename scheduler related perf counters Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 22/49] xen/sched: switch struct task_slice from vcpu to sched_item Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 23/49] xen/sched: move is_running indicator to struct sched_item Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 24/49] xen/sched: make null scheduler vcpu agnostic Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 25/49] xen/sched: make rt " Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 26/49] xen/sched: make credit " Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 27/49] xen/sched: make credit2 " Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 28/49] xen/sched: make arinc653 " Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 29/49] xen: add sched_item_pause_nosync() and sched_item_unpause() Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 30/49] xen: let vcpu_create() select processor Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 19:17 ` Andrew Cooper
2019-03-30 10:23 ` Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 31/49] xen/sched: use sched_resource cpu instead smp_processor_id in schedulers Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 19:36 ` Andrew Cooper
2019-03-30 10:22 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-01 8:10 ` Jan Beulich
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 32/49] xen/sched: switch schedule() from vcpus to sched_items Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 33/49] xen/sched: switch sched_move_irqs() to take sched_item as parameter Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 34/49] xen: switch from for_each_vcpu() to for_each_sched_item() Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 35/49] xen/sched: add runstate counters to struct sched_item Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 36/49] xen/sched: rework and rename vcpu_force_reschedule() Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 37/49] xen/sched: Change vcpu_migrate_*() to operate on schedule item Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 38/49] xen/sched: move struct task_slice into struct sched_item Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 39/49] xen/sched: add code to sync scheduling of all vcpus of a sched item Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 40/49] xen/sched: add support for multiple vcpus per sched item where missing Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 41/49] x86: make loading of GDT at context switch more modular Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 42/49] xen/sched: add support for guest vcpu idle Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 43/49] xen/sched: modify cpupool_domain_cpumask() to be an item mask Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 44/49] xen: round up max vcpus to scheduling granularity Juergen Gross
2019-04-01 8:50 ` Andrew Cooper
2019-04-01 9:47 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-02 7:49 ` Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 45/49] xen/sched: support allocating multiple vcpus into one sched item Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 46/49] xen/sched: add a scheduler_percpu_init() function Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 47/49] xen/sched: support core scheduling in continue_running() Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 48/49] xen/sched: make vcpu_wake() core scheduling aware Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:09 ` [PATCH RFC 49/49] xen/sched: add scheduling granularity enum Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:37 ` [PATCH RFC 00/49] xen: add core scheduling support Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 15:39 ` Jan Beulich
[not found] ` <5C9E3C3D0200007800222FB0@suse.com>
2019-03-29 15:46 ` Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 16:56 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-03-29 17:00 ` Juergen Gross
2019-03-29 17:29 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-03-29 17:39 ` Rian Quinn
2019-03-29 17:48 ` Andrew Cooper
2019-03-29 18:35 ` Rian Quinn
2019-03-29 18:16 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-03-30 9:55 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-11 0:34 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-04-11 0:34 ` [Xen-devel] " Dario Faggioli
2019-04-11 7:16 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-11 7:16 ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2019-04-11 13:28 ` Dario Faggioli [this message]
2019-04-11 13:28 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-04-01 6:41 ` Jan Beulich
[not found] ` <5CA1B285020000780022361D@suse.com>
2019-04-01 6:49 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-01 7:10 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-04-01 7:15 ` Juergen Gross
2019-04-01 7:13 ` Jan Beulich
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