From: Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com> To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> Cc: "Yosry Ahmed" <yosryahmed@google.com>, "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, "Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, "Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>, "Shakeel Butt" <shakeelb@google.com>, "Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>, "Ivan Babrou" <ivan@cloudflare.com>, "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>, "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>, "Waiman Long" <longman@redhat.com>, linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Greg Thelen" <gthelen@google.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/4] mm: memcg: use non-unified stats flushing for userspace reads Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2023 12:15:24 -0700 [thread overview] Message-ID: <CAAPL-u8NndkB2zHRtF8pVBSTsz854YmUbx62G7bpw6BMJiLaiQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <ZP8SDdjut9VEVpps@dhcp22.suse.cz> On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 6:11 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote: > > On Thu 07-09-23 17:52:12, Wei Xu wrote: > [...] > > I tested this patch on a machine with 384 CPUs using a microbenchmark > > that spawns 10K threads, each reading its memory.stat every 100 > > milliseconds. > > This is rather extreme case but I wouldn't call it utterly insane > though. > > > Most of memory.stat reads take 5ms-10ms in kernel, with > > ~5% reads even exceeding 1 second. > > Just curious, what would numbers look like if the mutex is removed and > those threads would be condending on the existing spinlock with lock > dropping in place and removed. Would you be willing to give it a shot? Without the mutex and with the spinlock only, the common read latency of memory.stat is still 5ms-10ms in kernel. There are very few reads (<0.003%) going above 10ms and none more than 1 second. > -- > Michal Hocko > SUSE Labs
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From: Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com> To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> Cc: "Yosry Ahmed" <yosryahmed@google.com>, "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, "Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, "Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>, "Shakeel Butt" <shakeelb@google.com>, "Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>, "Ivan Babrou" <ivan@cloudflare.com>, "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>, "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>, "Waiman Long" <longman@redhat.com>, linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Greg Thelen" <gthelen@google.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/4] mm: memcg: use non-unified stats flushing for userspace reads Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2023 12:15:24 -0700 [thread overview] Message-ID: <CAAPL-u8NndkB2zHRtF8pVBSTsz854YmUbx62G7bpw6BMJiLaiQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <ZP8SDdjut9VEVpps@dhcp22.suse.cz> On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 6:11 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote: > > On Thu 07-09-23 17:52:12, Wei Xu wrote: > [...] > > I tested this patch on a machine with 384 CPUs using a microbenchmark > > that spawns 10K threads, each reading its memory.stat every 100 > > milliseconds. > > This is rather extreme case but I wouldn't call it utterly insane > though. > > > Most of memory.stat reads take 5ms-10ms in kernel, with > > ~5% reads even exceeding 1 second. > > Just curious, what would numbers look like if the mutex is removed and > those threads would be condending on the existing spinlock with lock > dropping in place and removed. Would you be willing to give it a shot? Without the mutex and with the spinlock only, the common read latency of memory.stat is still 5ms-10ms in kernel. There are very few reads (<0.003%) going above 10ms and none more than 1 second. > -- > Michal Hocko > SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-11 21:39 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2023-08-31 16:56 [PATCH v4 0/4] memcg: non-unified flushing for userspace stats Yosry Ahmed 2023-08-31 16:56 ` Yosry Ahmed 2023-08-31 16:56 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] mm: memcg: properly name and document unified stats flushing Yosry Ahmed 2023-09-04 14:44 ` Michal Hocko 2023-09-04 14:44 ` Michal Hocko 2023-09-05 15:55 ` Yosry Ahmed 2023-09-05 15:55 ` Yosry Ahmed 2023-08-31 16:56 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] mm: memcg: add a helper for non-unified " Yosry Ahmed 2023-08-31 16:56 ` Yosry Ahmed 2023-09-04 14:45 ` Michal Hocko 2023-09-04 14:45 ` Michal Hocko 2023-08-31 16:56 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] mm: memcg: let non-unified root stats flushes help unified flushes Yosry Ahmed 2023-08-31 16:56 ` Yosry Ahmed 2023-09-04 14:50 ` Michal Hocko 2023-09-04 15:29 ` Michal Koutný 2023-09-04 15:29 ` Michal Koutný 2023-09-04 15:41 ` Michal Hocko 2023-09-04 15:41 ` Michal Hocko 2023-09-05 14:10 ` Michal Koutný 2023-09-05 14:10 ` Michal Koutný 2023-09-05 15:54 ` Yosry Ahmed 2023-09-05 15:54 ` Yosry Ahmed 2023-09-05 16:07 ` Michal Koutný 2023-09-05 16:07 ` Michal Koutný 2023-09-12 11:03 ` Michal Hocko 2023-09-12 11:03 ` Michal Hocko 2023-08-31 16:56 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] mm: memcg: use non-unified stats flushing for userspace reads Yosry Ahmed 2023-08-31 16:56 ` Yosry Ahmed 2023-09-04 15:15 ` Michal Hocko 2023-09-04 15:15 ` Michal Hocko 2023-09-05 15:57 ` Yosry Ahmed 2023-09-05 15:57 ` Yosry Ahmed 2023-09-08 0:52 ` Wei Xu 2023-09-08 0:52 ` Wei Xu 2023-09-08 1:02 ` Ivan Babrou 2023-09-08 1:02 ` Ivan Babrou 2023-09-08 1:11 ` Yosry Ahmed 2023-09-08 1:11 ` Yosry Ahmed 2023-09-11 13:11 ` Michal Hocko 2023-09-11 19:15 ` Wei Xu [this message] 2023-09-11 19:15 ` Wei Xu 2023-09-11 19:34 ` Michal Hocko 2023-09-11 19:34 ` Michal Hocko 2023-09-11 20:01 ` Wei Xu 2023-09-11 20:21 ` Tejun Heo 2023-09-11 20:28 ` Yosry Ahmed 2023-09-11 20:28 ` Yosry Ahmed 2023-09-12 11:03 ` Michal Hocko 2023-09-12 11:03 ` Michal Hocko 2023-09-12 11:09 ` Yosry Ahmed 2023-09-12 11:09 ` Yosry Ahmed 2023-08-31 17:18 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] memcg: non-unified flushing for userspace stats Waiman Long 2023-08-31 17:18 ` Waiman Long
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