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From: Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: "Yosry Ahmed" <yosryahmed@google.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	"Shakeel Butt" <shakeelb@google.com>,
	"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	"Ivan Babrou" <ivan@cloudflare.com>, "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Waiman Long" <longman@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Greg Thelen" <gthelen@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/4] mm: memcg: use non-unified stats flushing for userspace reads
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2023 12:15:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAPL-u8NndkB2zHRtF8pVBSTsz854YmUbx62G7bpw6BMJiLaiQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZP8SDdjut9VEVpps@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 6:11 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu 07-09-23 17:52:12, Wei Xu wrote:
> [...]
> > I tested this patch on a machine with 384 CPUs using a microbenchmark
> > that spawns 10K threads, each reading its memory.stat every 100
> > milliseconds.
>
> This is rather extreme case but I wouldn't call it utterly insane
> though.
>
> > Most of memory.stat reads take 5ms-10ms in kernel, with
> > ~5% reads even exceeding 1 second.
>
> Just curious, what would numbers look like if the mutex is removed and
> those threads would be condending on the existing spinlock with lock
> dropping in place and removed. Would you be willing to give it a shot?

Without the mutex and with the spinlock only, the common read latency
of memory.stat is still 5ms-10ms in kernel. There are very few reads
(<0.003%) going above 10ms and none more than 1 second.

> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: "Yosry Ahmed" <yosryahmed@google.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	"Shakeel Butt" <shakeelb@google.com>,
	"Muchun Song" <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	"Ivan Babrou" <ivan@cloudflare.com>, "Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Waiman Long" <longman@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Greg Thelen" <gthelen@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/4] mm: memcg: use non-unified stats flushing for userspace reads
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2023 12:15:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAPL-u8NndkB2zHRtF8pVBSTsz854YmUbx62G7bpw6BMJiLaiQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZP8SDdjut9VEVpps@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 6:11 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu 07-09-23 17:52:12, Wei Xu wrote:
> [...]
> > I tested this patch on a machine with 384 CPUs using a microbenchmark
> > that spawns 10K threads, each reading its memory.stat every 100
> > milliseconds.
>
> This is rather extreme case but I wouldn't call it utterly insane
> though.
>
> > Most of memory.stat reads take 5ms-10ms in kernel, with
> > ~5% reads even exceeding 1 second.
>
> Just curious, what would numbers look like if the mutex is removed and
> those threads would be condending on the existing spinlock with lock
> dropping in place and removed. Would you be willing to give it a shot?

Without the mutex and with the spinlock only, the common read latency
of memory.stat is still 5ms-10ms in kernel. There are very few reads
(<0.003%) going above 10ms and none more than 1 second.

> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-11 21:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-31 16:56 [PATCH v4 0/4] memcg: non-unified flushing for userspace stats Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-31 16:56 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-31 16:56 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] mm: memcg: properly name and document unified stats flushing Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-04 14:44   ` Michal Hocko
2023-09-04 14:44     ` Michal Hocko
2023-09-05 15:55     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-05 15:55       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-31 16:56 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] mm: memcg: add a helper for non-unified " Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-31 16:56   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-04 14:45   ` Michal Hocko
2023-09-04 14:45     ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-31 16:56 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] mm: memcg: let non-unified root stats flushes help unified flushes Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-31 16:56   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-04 14:50   ` Michal Hocko
2023-09-04 15:29     ` Michal Koutný
2023-09-04 15:29       ` Michal Koutný
2023-09-04 15:41       ` Michal Hocko
2023-09-04 15:41         ` Michal Hocko
2023-09-05 14:10         ` Michal Koutný
2023-09-05 14:10           ` Michal Koutný
2023-09-05 15:54           ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-05 15:54             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-05 16:07             ` Michal Koutný
2023-09-05 16:07               ` Michal Koutný
2023-09-12 11:03             ` Michal Hocko
2023-09-12 11:03               ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-31 16:56 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] mm: memcg: use non-unified stats flushing for userspace reads Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-31 16:56   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-04 15:15   ` Michal Hocko
2023-09-04 15:15     ` Michal Hocko
2023-09-05 15:57     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-05 15:57       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-08  0:52     ` Wei Xu
2023-09-08  0:52       ` Wei Xu
2023-09-08  1:02       ` Ivan Babrou
2023-09-08  1:02         ` Ivan Babrou
2023-09-08  1:11         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-08  1:11           ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-11 13:11       ` Michal Hocko
2023-09-11 19:15         ` Wei Xu [this message]
2023-09-11 19:15           ` Wei Xu
2023-09-11 19:34           ` Michal Hocko
2023-09-11 19:34             ` Michal Hocko
2023-09-11 20:01             ` Wei Xu
2023-09-11 20:21               ` Tejun Heo
2023-09-11 20:28                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-11 20:28                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-12 11:03                 ` Michal Hocko
2023-09-12 11:03                   ` Michal Hocko
2023-09-12 11:09                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-09-12 11:09                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-08-31 17:18 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] memcg: non-unified flushing for userspace stats Waiman Long
2023-08-31 17:18   ` Waiman Long

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