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From: Krishna Chaitanya <chaitanya.mgit@gmail.com>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Cc: "Valo, Kalle" <kvalo@qca.qualcomm.com>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	"ath10k@lists.infradead.org" <ath10k@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] ath10k: remove VHT capabilities from 2.4GHz
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 12:13:46 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABPxzY+UuCABUcFbV0EpdoRaSzpgGvMani_j7xvg2a=xh-Bw0g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <571FCB22.5000305@candelatech.com>

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 1:40 AM, Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com> wrote:
> On 04/26/2016 01:07 PM, Krishna Chaitanya wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Valo, Kalle <kvalo@qca.qualcomm.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2016-04-21 at 08:15 -0700, Ben Greear wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The thing is, it actually works just fine with the patch I posted
>>>>> to fix mac80211, and at any rate, even if the mac80211 patch isn't
>>>>> applied, the ath10k driver works just fine in HT mode.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This patch has no implications on HT, and I wasn't planning on applying
>>>> the mac80211 patch.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, makes sense. I'm planning to apply this soon.
>>>
>>>> As I said, I have no objections to doing the (Broadcom) vendor specific
>>>> IEs for "VHT" in 2.4 GHz band, but I don't think we should advertise
>>>> the spec IEs when they're explicitly specified to be used only in the
>>>> 5.2 GHz band.
>>>
>>>
>>> But we really should have this, any volunteers? :) I think it shouldn't
>>> be too hard to do so this would be a good project for someone looking
>>> for a simple, but useful, task on wireless stack.
>>
>> Are these Broadcom IEs documented somewhere? If yes,
>> then its a matter of parsing them and adding support to
>> minstrel_ht, isn't it? major work would be in minstrel.
>>
>
> For ath10k, rate-ctrl is done in the firmware, so
> no work at all in minstrel-ht.

Right, i think this might become more common.
So may we need to change minstrel_ht as well?

> The end result, as far as I can tell,
> is you would just have to tell mac80211 to allow
> VHT on 2.4Ghz, and revert this patch that Kalle is proposing.

Ideally as this is vendor specific it makes sense to implement this
at Driver/FW level rather than implementing it at a common stack
like mac80211.

> Maybe someone that actually knows about these IEs can explain why
> they are worth using?

These IE's can be parsed in the driver without any mac80211 involvement.

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From: Krishna Chaitanya <chaitanya.mgit@gmail.com>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Cc: "Valo, Kalle" <kvalo@qca.qualcomm.com>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	"ath10k@lists.infradead.org" <ath10k@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] ath10k: remove VHT capabilities from 2.4GHz
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 12:13:46 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABPxzY+UuCABUcFbV0EpdoRaSzpgGvMani_j7xvg2a=xh-Bw0g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <571FCB22.5000305@candelatech.com>

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 1:40 AM, Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com> wrote:
> On 04/26/2016 01:07 PM, Krishna Chaitanya wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Valo, Kalle <kvalo@qca.qualcomm.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2016-04-21 at 08:15 -0700, Ben Greear wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The thing is, it actually works just fine with the patch I posted
>>>>> to fix mac80211, and at any rate, even if the mac80211 patch isn't
>>>>> applied, the ath10k driver works just fine in HT mode.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This patch has no implications on HT, and I wasn't planning on applying
>>>> the mac80211 patch.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, makes sense. I'm planning to apply this soon.
>>>
>>>> As I said, I have no objections to doing the (Broadcom) vendor specific
>>>> IEs for "VHT" in 2.4 GHz band, but I don't think we should advertise
>>>> the spec IEs when they're explicitly specified to be used only in the
>>>> 5.2 GHz band.
>>>
>>>
>>> But we really should have this, any volunteers? :) I think it shouldn't
>>> be too hard to do so this would be a good project for someone looking
>>> for a simple, but useful, task on wireless stack.
>>
>> Are these Broadcom IEs documented somewhere? If yes,
>> then its a matter of parsing them and adding support to
>> minstrel_ht, isn't it? major work would be in minstrel.
>>
>
> For ath10k, rate-ctrl is done in the firmware, so
> no work at all in minstrel-ht.

Right, i think this might become more common.
So may we need to change minstrel_ht as well?

> The end result, as far as I can tell,
> is you would just have to tell mac80211 to allow
> VHT on 2.4Ghz, and revert this patch that Kalle is proposing.

Ideally as this is vendor specific it makes sense to implement this
at Driver/FW level rather than implementing it at a common stack
like mac80211.

> Maybe someone that actually knows about these IEs can explain why
> they are worth using?

These IE's can be parsed in the driver without any mac80211 involvement.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-27  6:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-21 13:17 [PATCH v2] ath10k: remove VHT capabilities from 2.4GHz Kalle Valo
2016-04-21 13:17 ` Kalle Valo
2016-04-21 15:15 ` Ben Greear
2016-04-21 15:15   ` Ben Greear
2016-04-21 20:09   ` Sebastian Gottschall
2016-04-21 23:07     ` Michael Ney
2016-04-26  7:04   ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-26  7:04     ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-26 12:03     ` Valo, Kalle
2016-04-26 12:03       ` Valo, Kalle
2016-04-26 20:07       ` Krishna Chaitanya
2016-04-26 20:07         ` Krishna Chaitanya
2016-04-26 20:10         ` Ben Greear
2016-04-26 20:10           ` Ben Greear
2016-04-27  6:43           ` Krishna Chaitanya [this message]
2016-04-27  6:43             ` Krishna Chaitanya
2016-04-27  9:16             ` Jouni Malinen
2016-04-27  9:16               ` Jouni Malinen
2016-04-27  9:37               ` Krishna Chaitanya
2016-04-27  9:37                 ` Krishna Chaitanya
2016-04-27  9:45                 ` Johannes Berg
2016-04-27  9:45                   ` Johannes Berg
2016-05-06 18:08 ` Valo, Kalle
2016-05-06 18:08   ` Valo, Kalle

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