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From: Akinobu Mita <akinobu.mita@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
	Eduardo Valentin <edubezval@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@fb.com>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	Minwoo Im <minwoo.im.dev@gmail.com>,
	Kenneth Heitke <kenneth.heitke@intel.com>,
	Chaitanya Kulkarni <Chaitanya.Kulkarni@wdc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] nvme: add thermal zone devices
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2019 22:19:08 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC5umyiBmD6-3BNLfG7sNOe9jde8Ct16a9N_Ao3T_1_G1K_DDA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190601090238.GD6453@lst.de>

2019年6月1日(土) 18:03 Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>:
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 01:29:02AM +0900, Akinobu Mita wrote:
> > The NVMe controller reports up to nine temperature values in the SMART /
> > Health log page (the composite temperature and temperature sensor 1 through
> > temperature sensor 8).
> >
> > This provides these temperatures via thermal zone devices.
>
> Can you explain a bit more why we'd do this?  I shows up some sysfs
> files, but we could easily do that with nvme-cli, too.  Is there some
> greater benefit of this integration?

As long as the user space thermal governor is used, there is nothing more
than that from a functional perspective.  And I suppose that this is used
with user_space governor (i.e. there is still some work to be able to bind
actual thermal cooling device).

The main purpose of this is to turn on a fan when overheated without
polling the device that could prevent the lower power state transitions.
But as you noted, we could do that with the existing AEN notifications
through uevent.

So frankly speaking, the benefit of this is providing generic thermal sysfs
interface and the tools like tmon (linux/tools/thermal/tmon) can show the
nvme temperatures.

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From: akinobu.mita@gmail.com (Akinobu Mita)
Subject: [PATCH v3 2/3] nvme: add thermal zone devices
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2019 22:19:08 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC5umyiBmD6-3BNLfG7sNOe9jde8Ct16a9N_Ao3T_1_G1K_DDA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190601090238.GD6453@lst.de>

2019?6?1?(?) 18:03 Christoph Hellwig <hch at lst.de>:
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2019@01:29:02AM +0900, Akinobu Mita wrote:
> > The NVMe controller reports up to nine temperature values in the SMART /
> > Health log page (the composite temperature and temperature sensor 1 through
> > temperature sensor 8).
> >
> > This provides these temperatures via thermal zone devices.
>
> Can you explain a bit more why we'd do this?  I shows up some sysfs
> files, but we could easily do that with nvme-cli, too.  Is there some
> greater benefit of this integration?

As long as the user space thermal governor is used, there is nothing more
than that from a functional perspective.  And I suppose that this is used
with user_space governor (i.e. there is still some work to be able to bind
actual thermal cooling device).

The main purpose of this is to turn on a fan when overheated without
polling the device that could prevent the lower power state transitions.
But as you noted, we could do that with the existing AEN notifications
through uevent.

So frankly speaking, the benefit of this is providing generic thermal sysfs
interface and the tools like tmon (linux/tools/thermal/tmon) can show the
nvme temperatures.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-02 13:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-26 16:29 [PATCH v3 0/3] nvme: add thermal zone devices Akinobu Mita
2019-05-26 16:29 ` Akinobu Mita
2019-05-26 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] nvme: Export get and set features Akinobu Mita
2019-05-26 16:29   ` Akinobu Mita
2019-05-26 16:45   ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2019-05-26 16:45     ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2019-05-29 15:19   ` Minwoo Im
2019-05-29 15:19     ` Minwoo Im
2019-05-26 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] nvme: add thermal zone devices Akinobu Mita
2019-05-26 16:29   ` Akinobu Mita
2019-05-29 15:15   ` Minwoo Im
2019-05-29 15:15     ` Minwoo Im
2019-05-29 16:47     ` Akinobu Mita
2019-05-29 16:47       ` Akinobu Mita
2019-05-30 10:18       ` Minwoo Im
2019-05-30 10:18         ` Minwoo Im
2019-06-01  9:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-01  9:02     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-02 13:19     ` Akinobu Mita [this message]
2019-06-02 13:19       ` Akinobu Mita
2019-06-04  7:31       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-04  7:31         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-05 15:42         ` Akinobu Mita
2019-06-05 15:42           ` Akinobu Mita
2019-06-03  2:36   ` Eduardo Valentin
2019-06-03  2:36     ` Eduardo Valentin
2019-06-03 15:20     ` Akinobu Mita
2019-06-03 15:20       ` Akinobu Mita
2019-06-06  4:05       ` Eduardo Valentin
2019-06-06  4:05         ` Eduardo Valentin
2019-06-07 15:21         ` Akinobu Mita
2019-06-07 15:21           ` Akinobu Mita
2019-05-26 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] nvme: notify thermal framework when temperature threshold events occur Akinobu Mita
2019-05-26 16:29   ` Akinobu Mita
2019-06-01  9:03   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-01  9:03     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-02 13:46     ` Akinobu Mita
2019-06-02 13:46       ` Akinobu Mita
2019-06-04  7:32       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-04  7:32         ` Christoph Hellwig

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