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From: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: Chen-Yu Tsai <wenst@chromium.org>,
	Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	AngeloGioacchino Del Regno 
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	Hsin-Yi Wang <hsinyi@chromium.org>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com, Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	linus.walleij@linaro.org, broonie@kernel.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, hdegoede@redhat.com,
	james.clark@arm.com, james@equiv.tech, keescook@chromium.org,
	petr.tesarik.ext@huawei.com, rafael@kernel.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, Jeff LaBundy <jeff@labundy.com>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 6/7] dt-bindings: arm: mediatek: Remove SKU specific compatibles for Google Krane
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2023 16:29:08 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAD=FV=XARZpeEZo-i+CNTAH=AQrxPfwnzSMXDWx6Pvj4k6cP8g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231110210443.GA419831-robh@kernel.org>

Hi,

On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 1:04 PM Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 06:06:03PM +0800, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
> > In cases where the same Chromebook model is manufactured with different
> > components (MIPI DSI panels, MIPI CSI camera sensors, or trackpad /
> > touchscreens with conflicting addresses), a different SKU ID is
> > allocated to each specific combination. This SKU ID is exported by the
> > bootloader into the device tree, and can be used to "discover" which
> > combination is present on the current machine. Thus we no longer have
> > to specify separate compatible strings for each of them.
>
> You just broke an existing kernel with a new DT having this change.
>
> Just because you come up with a new way to do things, doesn't mean you
> can remove the old way.

I was wondering about that, actually. My understanding was that what
Chen-Yu was doing here was correct, but I'm happy to be educated.

Specifically, I think that after his series old device trees will
continue to boot just fine. ...so if someone took a device tree from
before his series and booted it on a kernel after his series that
everything would be hunky dory. If that doesn't work then, I agree,
that should be fixed.

However, here, he is documenting what the "latest and greatest" device
tree should look at and that matches what's checked into the "dts"
directory. In general, I thought that yaml files didn't necessarily
always document old/deprecated ways of doing things and just focused
on documenting the new/best way.

Now, obviously, if someone took a new device tree and tried to put it
on an old kernel then it wouldn't work, but I was always under the
impression that wasn't a requirement.


-Doug

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: Chen-Yu Tsai <wenst@chromium.org>,
	Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
	 Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	 Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	 AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
	<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
	 Hsin-Yi Wang <hsinyi@chromium.org>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	 andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com,
	Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	 linus.walleij@linaro.org, broonie@kernel.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,  hdegoede@redhat.com,
	james.clark@arm.com, james@equiv.tech,  keescook@chromium.org,
	petr.tesarik.ext@huawei.com, rafael@kernel.org,
	 tglx@linutronix.de, Jeff LaBundy <jeff@labundy.com>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org,  devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	 linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 6/7] dt-bindings: arm: mediatek: Remove SKU specific compatibles for Google Krane
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2023 16:29:08 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAD=FV=XARZpeEZo-i+CNTAH=AQrxPfwnzSMXDWx6Pvj4k6cP8g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231110210443.GA419831-robh@kernel.org>

Hi,

On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 1:04 PM Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 06:06:03PM +0800, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
> > In cases where the same Chromebook model is manufactured with different
> > components (MIPI DSI panels, MIPI CSI camera sensors, or trackpad /
> > touchscreens with conflicting addresses), a different SKU ID is
> > allocated to each specific combination. This SKU ID is exported by the
> > bootloader into the device tree, and can be used to "discover" which
> > combination is present on the current machine. Thus we no longer have
> > to specify separate compatible strings for each of them.
>
> You just broke an existing kernel with a new DT having this change.
>
> Just because you come up with a new way to do things, doesn't mean you
> can remove the old way.

I was wondering about that, actually. My understanding was that what
Chen-Yu was doing here was correct, but I'm happy to be educated.

Specifically, I think that after his series old device trees will
continue to boot just fine. ...so if someone took a device tree from
before his series and booted it on a kernel after his series that
everything would be hunky dory. If that doesn't work then, I agree,
that should be fixed.

However, here, he is documenting what the "latest and greatest" device
tree should look at and that matches what's checked into the "dts"
directory. In general, I thought that yaml files didn't necessarily
always document old/deprecated ways of doing things and just focused
on documenting the new/best way.

Now, obviously, if someone took a new device tree and tried to put it
on an old kernel then it wouldn't work, but I was always under the
impression that wasn't a requirement.


-Doug

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-11  0:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-09 10:05 [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] of: Introduce hardware prober driver Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-09 10:05 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-09 10:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/7] of: base: Add of_device_is_fail Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-09 10:05   ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-09 10:05 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/7] of: Introduce hardware prober driver Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-09 10:05   ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-09 15:13   ` Rob Herring
2023-11-09 15:13     ` Rob Herring
2023-11-14  8:30     ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-14  8:30       ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-09 17:54   ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-11-09 17:54     ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-11-14  8:26     ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-14  8:26       ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-09 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/7] arm64: dts: mediatek: mt8173-elm-hana: Mark touchscreens and trackpads as fail Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-09 10:06   ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-09 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/7] arm64: dts: mediatek: mt8173-elm-hana: Add G2touch G7500 touchscreen Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-09 10:06   ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-09 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/7] of: hw_prober: Support Chromebook SKU ID based component selection Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-09 10:06   ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-10 21:07   ` Rob Herring
2023-11-10 21:07     ` Rob Herring
2023-11-09 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/7] dt-bindings: arm: mediatek: Remove SKU specific compatibles for Google Krane Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-09 10:06   ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-10 21:04   ` Rob Herring
2023-11-10 21:04     ` Rob Herring
2023-11-11  0:29     ` Doug Anderson [this message]
2023-11-11  0:29       ` Doug Anderson
2023-11-09 10:06 ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/7] arm64: dts: mediatek: mt8183-kukui: Merge Krane device trees Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-09 10:06   ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-09 10:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/7] of: Introduce hardware prober driver AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2023-11-09 10:54   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2023-11-09 13:51   ` Rob Herring
2023-11-09 13:51     ` Rob Herring
2023-11-11  0:12     ` Doug Anderson
2023-11-11  0:12       ` Doug Anderson
2023-11-15 19:28       ` Rob Herring
2023-11-15 19:28         ` Rob Herring
2023-11-15 20:44         ` Doug Anderson
2023-11-15 20:44           ` Doug Anderson
2023-11-15 21:34           ` Rob Herring
2023-11-15 21:34             ` Rob Herring
2023-11-15 22:13             ` Doug Anderson
2023-11-15 22:13               ` Doug Anderson
2023-11-16  5:11               ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-16  5:11                 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-19 14:34               ` Rob Herring
2023-11-19 14:34                 ` Rob Herring
2023-11-16  5:07             ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-16  5:07               ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-14  7:05     ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-14  7:05       ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-14  8:57   ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-14  8:57     ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-14 10:04     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2023-11-14 10:04       ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2023-11-11  0:22 ` Doug Anderson
2023-11-11  0:22   ` Doug Anderson
2023-11-14  8:44   ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2023-11-14  8:44     ` Chen-Yu Tsai

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