From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 9/9] printk: use a new ringbuffer implementation
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 08:57:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHk-=wiG55kT0MRprt+Opbpcc=ebugC_rz4d6-whtAGXri3TwQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190809061437.GE2332@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 11:14 PM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> Note that you can hook this into printk as a fake early serial device;
> just have the serial device write to the DRAM buffer.
No, you really really can't.
Look, the whole point of that reboot buffer is that it works WHEN
NOTHING ELSE DOES.
Very much including things like "oh, we're doing a suspend/resume, so
the console lock is held to make sure we don't touch any devices that
are likely dead right now".
The poweroff buffer is not a console. Don't even try to think of it as
one. It's for when consoles don't work. Trying to make it be an
early-console would completely defeat the whole point.
Even the "early console" stuff tries to honor serialization by
console_lock and console_suspended etc. Or things like the "I'm in the
middle of the scheduler, so I won't be doing any real logging".
If the system works, and you get console output or you have a working
syslogd that saves messages to disk, all of this is entirely
irrelevant. Really.
Don't think of it as a console. If you do, you're doing it wrong.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-09 15:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-07 22:26 [RFC PATCH v4 0/9] printk: new ringbuffer implementation John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/9] printk-rb: add a new printk " John Ogness
2019-08-20 8:15 ` numlist_pop(): " Petr Mladek
2019-08-21 5:41 ` John Ogness
2019-09-04 12:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-20 8:22 ` assign_desc() barriers: " Petr Mladek
2019-08-20 14:14 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-21 5:52 ` John Ogness
2019-08-22 11:53 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-25 2:06 ` John Ogness
2019-08-26 8:21 ` John Ogness
2019-08-20 8:55 ` comments style: " Petr Mladek
2019-08-20 9:27 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-21 5:46 ` John Ogness
2019-08-22 13:50 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-22 17:38 ` Andrea Parri
2019-08-23 10:47 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-23 14:27 ` Andrea Parri
2019-08-23 9:49 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-23 5:54 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-23 10:29 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-21 5:42 ` John Ogness
2019-08-22 12:44 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-20 13:50 ` dataring_push() barriers " Petr Mladek
2019-08-25 2:42 ` John Ogness
2019-08-27 14:36 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-28 13:43 ` John Ogness
2019-08-20 15:12 ` datablock reuse races " Petr Mladek
2019-08-23 9:21 ` numlist_push() barriers " Petr Mladek
2019-08-26 8:34 ` Andrea Parri
2019-08-26 8:43 ` Andrea Parri
2019-08-26 14:10 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-26 16:01 ` Andrea Parri
2019-08-26 22:36 ` John Ogness
2019-08-27 7:40 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-27 14:28 ` John Ogness
2019-08-27 15:07 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-28 10:24 ` John Ogness
2019-08-23 17:18 ` numlist API " Petr Mladek
2019-08-26 23:57 ` John Ogness
2019-08-27 13:03 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-28 7:13 ` John Ogness
2019-08-28 8:58 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-28 14:03 ` John Ogness
2019-08-29 11:28 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-03 7:58 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-30 14:48 ` dataring " Petr Mladek
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/9] printk-rb: add test module John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/9] printk-rb: fix missing includes/exports John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/9] printk-rb: initialize new descriptors as invalid John Ogness
2019-08-20 9:23 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-20 10:16 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-21 5:56 ` John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 5/9] printk-rb: remove extra data buffer size allocation John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 6/9] printk-rb: adjust test module ringbuffer sizes John Ogness
2019-08-19 21:29 ` [PATCH] printk-rb: fix test module macro usage John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 7/9] printk-rb: increase size of seq and size variables John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 8/9] printk-rb: new functionality to support printk John Ogness
2019-08-20 9:59 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-21 5:47 ` John Ogness
2019-08-07 22:26 ` [RFC PATCH v4 9/9] printk: use a new ringbuffer implementation John Ogness
2019-08-08 19:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-08 22:55 ` John Ogness
2019-08-08 23:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-08 23:45 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-09 0:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-09 0:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-08-09 1:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-09 11:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-09 16:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-09 20:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-08-09 20:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-08-09 6:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-09 7:08 ` John Ogness
2019-08-09 15:57 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2019-08-10 5:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-09-10 3:19 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-08-12 9:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-08-16 5:46 ` Dave Young
2019-08-16 5:46 ` Dave Young
2019-08-16 5:54 ` Dave Young
2019-08-16 5:54 ` Dave Young
2019-08-16 9:40 ` John Ogness
2019-08-16 9:40 ` John Ogness
2019-09-04 12:35 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/9] printk: " Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-05 13:05 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-05 14:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-05 15:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-09-05 16:11 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-05 21:10 ` John Ogness
2019-09-06 9:39 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-09 14:11 ` printk meeting at LPC Thomas Gleixner
2019-09-13 13:26 ` John Ogness
2019-09-13 14:48 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-09-15 13:47 ` John Ogness
2019-09-16 8:44 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-09-16 4:30 ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-09-16 10:46 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-16 13:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-16 14:28 ` John Ogness
2019-09-17 8:11 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-17 7:52 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-17 13:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-17 13:12 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-09-17 13:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-17 14:08 ` Tetsuo Handa
2019-09-17 7:51 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-18 1:25 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-18 2:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-18 2:36 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-18 5:19 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-18 7:42 ` John Ogness
2019-09-18 8:10 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-18 9:05 ` John Ogness
2019-09-18 9:11 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-18 16:41 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-18 16:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-09-24 14:24 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-19 8:06 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-09-18 7:33 ` John Ogness
2019-09-18 8:08 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-10-04 14:48 ` Tony Asleson
2019-10-07 12:01 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-06 9:06 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/9] printk: new ringbuffer implementation Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-06 10:09 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-06 10:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-06 13:44 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-06 12:42 ` Petr Mladek
2019-09-06 14:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-06 14:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-06 19:53 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-09-06 22:47 ` John Ogness
2019-09-08 22:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-09-10 3:22 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
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