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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Garnier <thgarnie@google.com>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com" 
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	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
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	Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>, Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
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	Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hpe.com>,
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	Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
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	Alexander Kuleshov <kuleshovmail@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Popov <alpopov@ptsecurity.com>,
	Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>, Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>,
	Lv Zheng <lv.zheng@intel.com>, Mark Salter <msalter@redhat.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: devicetree random-seed properties, was: "Re: [PATCH v7 0/9] x86/mm: memory area address KASLR"
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 13:40:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrX0bsFiykT=6d8K_igkBCDavdzxmq-A3VJ+7nht2s8FFg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5j+hsPcrCAEcY-s9EDDUVqWOhpdx5iGNTBRqCqkExOJh5w@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net> wrote:
>> Thomas,
>>
>> Sorry for wandering off the topic of your series.  The big take away for
>> me is that you and Kees are concerned about x86 systems pre-RDRAND.
>> Just as I'm concerned about deployed embedded systems without bootloader
>> support for hw-rngs and so forth.
>>
>> Whatever final form the approach takes for ARM/dt, I'll make sure we can
>> extend it to legacy x86 systems.
>
> Yeah, this seems like a productive conversation to me. :)

I have an old patch and spec I need to dust off that does this during
*very* early boot on x86 using MSRs so that kASLR can use it.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Garnier <thgarnie@google.com>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com"
	<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>, Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>,
	Toshi Kani <toshi.kani@hpe.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Alexander Kuleshov <kuleshovmail@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Popov <alpopov@ptsecurity.com>,
	Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>, Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>,
	Lv Zheng <lv.zheng@intel.com>, Mark Salter <msalter@redhat.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: [kernel-hardening] Re: devicetree random-seed properties, was: "Re: [PATCH v7 0/9] x86/mm: memory area address KASLR"
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 13:40:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrX0bsFiykT=6d8K_igkBCDavdzxmq-A3VJ+7nht2s8FFg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5j+hsPcrCAEcY-s9EDDUVqWOhpdx5iGNTBRqCqkExOJh5w@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net> wrote:
>> Thomas,
>>
>> Sorry for wandering off the topic of your series.  The big take away for
>> me is that you and Kees are concerned about x86 systems pre-RDRAND.
>> Just as I'm concerned about deployed embedded systems without bootloader
>> support for hw-rngs and so forth.
>>
>> Whatever final form the approach takes for ARM/dt, I'll make sure we can
>> extend it to legacy x86 systems.
>
> Yeah, this seems like a productive conversation to me. :)

I have an old patch and spec I need to dust off that does this during
*very* early boot on x86 using MSRs so that kASLR can use it.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-24 20:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-22  0:46 [PATCH v7 0/9] x86/mm: memory area address KASLR Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:46 ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:46 ` [PATCH v7 1/9] x86/mm: Refactor KASLR entropy functions Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:46   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-07-08 20:33   ` [tip:x86/boot] " tip-bot for Thomas Garnier
2016-06-22  0:46 ` [PATCH v7 2/9] x86/mm: Update physical mapping variable names (x86_64) Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:46   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-07-08 20:34   ` [tip:x86/boot] x86/mm: Update physical mapping variable names tip-bot for Thomas Garnier
2016-06-22  0:47 ` [PATCH v7 3/9] x86/mm: PUD VA support for physical mapping (x86_64) Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:47   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-07-08 20:34   ` [tip:x86/boot] x86/mm: Add PUD VA support for physical mapping tip-bot for Thomas Garnier
2016-06-22  0:47 ` [PATCH v7 4/9] x86/mm: Separate variable for trampoline PGD (x86_64) Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:47   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-07-08 20:35   ` [tip:x86/boot] x86/mm: Separate variable for trampoline PGD tip-bot for Thomas Garnier
2016-06-22  0:47 ` [PATCH v7 5/9] x86/mm: Implement ASLR for kernel memory regions (x86_64) Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:47   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-07-08 20:35   ` [tip:x86/boot] x86/mm: Implement ASLR for kernel memory regions tip-bot for Thomas Garnier
2016-06-22  0:47 ` [PATCH v7 6/9] x86/mm: Enable KASLR for physical mapping memory region (x86_64) Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:47   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-07-08 20:35   ` [tip:x86/boot] x86/mm: Enable KASLR for physical mapping memory regions tip-bot for Thomas Garnier
2016-08-14  4:25     ` Brian Gerst
2016-08-14 23:26       ` Baoquan He
2016-08-16 11:31         ` Brian Gerst
2016-08-16 13:42           ` Borislav Petkov
2016-08-16 13:49             ` Borislav Petkov
2016-08-16 15:54               ` Borislav Petkov
2016-08-16 17:50                 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-08-16 19:49                   ` Kees Cook
2016-08-16 21:01                     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-08-17  0:31                       ` Brian Gerst
2016-08-17  9:11                         ` Borislav Petkov
2016-08-17 10:19                           ` Ingo Molnar
2016-08-17 11:33                             ` Borislav Petkov
2016-08-18 10:49                               ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86/microcode/AMD: Fix initrd loading with CONFIG_RANDOMIZE_MEMORY=y tip-bot for Borislav Petkov
2016-06-22  0:47 ` [PATCH v7 7/9] x86/mm: Enable KASLR for vmalloc memory region (x86_64) Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:47   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-07-08 20:36   ` [tip:x86/boot] x86/mm: Enable KASLR for vmalloc memory regions tip-bot for Thomas Garnier
2016-06-22  0:47 ` [PATCH v7 8/9] x86/mm: Enable KASLR for vmemmap memory region (x86_64) Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:47   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:47 ` [PATCH v7 9/9] x86/mm: Memory hotplug support for KASLR memory randomization (x86_64) Kees Cook
2016-06-22  0:47   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-07-08 20:36   ` [tip:x86/boot] x86/mm: Add memory hotplug support for KASLR memory randomization tip-bot for Thomas Garnier
2016-06-22 12:47 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH v7 0/9] x86/mm: memory area address KASLR Jason Cooper
2016-06-22 15:59   ` Thomas Garnier
2016-06-22 17:05     ` Kees Cook
2016-06-22 17:05       ` Kees Cook
2016-06-23 19:33       ` Jason Cooper
2016-06-23 19:33         ` Jason Cooper
2016-06-23 19:45         ` Sandy Harris
2016-06-23 19:59           ` Kees Cook
2016-06-23 19:59             ` Kees Cook
2016-06-23 20:19             ` Jason Cooper
2016-06-23 20:16           ` Jason Cooper
2016-06-23 19:58         ` Kees Cook
2016-06-23 19:58           ` Kees Cook
2016-06-23 20:05           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-06-23 20:05             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-06-24  1:11             ` Jason Cooper
2016-06-24  1:11               ` Jason Cooper
2016-06-24 10:54               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-06-24 10:54                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-06-24 16:02                 ` devicetree random-seed properties, was: "Re: [PATCH v7 0/9] x86/mm: memory area address KASLR" Jason Cooper
2016-06-24 16:02                   ` [kernel-hardening] " Jason Cooper
2016-06-24 19:04                   ` Kees Cook
2016-06-24 19:04                     ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-06-24 20:40                     ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2016-06-24 20:40                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-30 21:48                       ` Jason Cooper
2016-06-30 21:48                         ` [kernel-hardening] " Jason Cooper
2016-06-30 21:56                         ` Thomas Garnier
2016-06-30 21:48                     ` Jason Cooper
2016-06-30 21:48                       ` [kernel-hardening] " Jason Cooper
2016-07-07 22:24 ` [PATCH v7 0/9] x86/mm: memory area address KASLR Kees Cook
2016-07-07 22:24   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook

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