From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
To: Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>,
pjones@redhat.com, daniel.kiper@oracle.com,
Leif Lindholm <leif@nuviainc.com>
Cc: Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Sergey Shatunov <me@prok.pw>,
hpa@zytor.com,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
mingo@redhat.com, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-efi <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
initramfs@vger.kernel.org,
Donovan Tremura <neurognostic@protonmail.ch>,
Harald Hoyer <harald@hoyer.xyz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] efi/x86: Move efi stub globals from .bss to .data
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 09:49:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMj1kXGPOZ6zWtgGScLy0ECrTtf1yhngDTNE1chW-MQw3XQp9Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200408074334.GA21886@dhcp-128-65.nay.redhat.com>
(add Peter, Leif and Daniel)
On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 09:43, Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 04/06/20 at 02:06pm, Arvind Sankar wrote:
> > Commit
> >
> > 3ee372ccce4d ("x86/boot/compressed/64: Remove .bss/.pgtable from
> > bzImage")
> >
> > removed the .bss section from the bzImage.
> >
> > However, while a PE loader is required to zero-initialize the .bss
> > section before calling the PE entry point, the EFI handover protocol
> > does not currently document any requirement that .bss be initialized by
> > the bootloader prior to calling the handover entry.
> >
> > When systemd-boot is used to boot a unified kernel image [1], the image
> > is constructed by embedding the bzImage as a .linux section in a PE
> > executable that contains a small stub loader from systemd together with
> > additional sections and potentially an initrd. As the .bss section
> > within the bzImage is no longer explicitly present as part of the file,
> > it is not initialized before calling the EFI handover entry.
> > Furthermore, as the size of the embedded .linux section is only the size
> > of the bzImage file itself, the .bss section's memory may not even have
> > been allocated.
>
> I did not follow up the old report, maybe I missed something. But not
> sure why only systemd-boot is mentioned here. I also have similar issue
> with early efi failure. With these two patches applied, it works well
> then.
>
> BTW, I use Fedora 31 + Grub2
>
OK, so I take it this means that GRUB's PE/COFF loader does not
zero-initialize BSS either? Does it honor the image size in memory if
it exceeds the file size?
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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Dave Young <dyoung-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
pjones-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
daniel.kiper-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
Leif Lindholm <leif-e2DmVA6dwcVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Arvind Sankar <nivedita-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>,
Borislav Petkov <bp-Gina5bIWoIWzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>,
Sergey Shatunov <me-fHUSW+XspFU@public.gmane.org>,
hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
Linux Kernel Mailing List
<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
mingo-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
x86-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
linux-efi <linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
initramfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Donovan Tremura
<neurognostic-g/b1ySJe57IkP3XJZ0H8fw@public.gmane.org>,
Harald Hoyer <harald-PnQE6hpDOpmlVyrhU4qvOw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] efi/x86: Move efi stub globals from .bss to .data
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 09:49:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMj1kXGPOZ6zWtgGScLy0ECrTtf1yhngDTNE1chW-MQw3XQp9Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200408074334.GA21886-0VdLhd/A9Pl+NNSt+8eSiB/sF2h8X+2i0E9HWUfgJXw@public.gmane.org>
(add Peter, Leif and Daniel)
On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 at 09:43, Dave Young <dyoung-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> On 04/06/20 at 02:06pm, Arvind Sankar wrote:
> > Commit
> >
> > 3ee372ccce4d ("x86/boot/compressed/64: Remove .bss/.pgtable from
> > bzImage")
> >
> > removed the .bss section from the bzImage.
> >
> > However, while a PE loader is required to zero-initialize the .bss
> > section before calling the PE entry point, the EFI handover protocol
> > does not currently document any requirement that .bss be initialized by
> > the bootloader prior to calling the handover entry.
> >
> > When systemd-boot is used to boot a unified kernel image [1], the image
> > is constructed by embedding the bzImage as a .linux section in a PE
> > executable that contains a small stub loader from systemd together with
> > additional sections and potentially an initrd. As the .bss section
> > within the bzImage is no longer explicitly present as part of the file,
> > it is not initialized before calling the EFI handover entry.
> > Furthermore, as the size of the embedded .linux section is only the size
> > of the bzImage file itself, the .bss section's memory may not even have
> > been allocated.
>
> I did not follow up the old report, maybe I missed something. But not
> sure why only systemd-boot is mentioned here. I also have similar issue
> with early efi failure. With these two patches applied, it works well
> then.
>
> BTW, I use Fedora 31 + Grub2
>
OK, so I take it this means that GRUB's PE/COFF loader does not
zero-initialize BSS either? Does it honor the image size in memory if
it exceeds the file size?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-08 7:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-01-09 15:02 [PATCH 1/2] x86/boot/compressed/64: Remove .bss/.pgtable from bzImage Arvind Sankar
2020-01-09 15:02 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/boot/compressed: Remove unnecessary sections " Arvind Sankar
2020-02-06 11:44 ` Kees Cook
2020-02-19 16:55 ` [tip: x86/boot] " tip-bot2 for Arvind Sankar
2020-02-22 5:08 ` [PATCH 2/2] " Nathan Chancellor
2020-02-22 6:55 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-02-22 7:02 ` Nathan Chancellor
2020-02-22 7:21 ` Fangrui Song
2020-02-22 7:42 ` Nathan Chancellor
2020-02-22 15:37 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-22 16:44 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-22 17:18 ` [PATCH] x86/boot/compressed: Fix compressed kernel linking with lld Arvind Sankar
2020-02-22 18:14 ` Nathan Chancellor
2020-02-22 18:58 ` Fangrui Song
2020-02-22 20:17 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-22 21:01 ` Fangrui Song
2020-02-22 23:33 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-02-22 23:57 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-23 19:37 ` [PATCH 0/2] Stop generating .eh_frame sections Arvind Sankar
2020-02-24 4:15 ` Nathan Chancellor
2020-02-24 20:49 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-02-24 21:53 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-24 22:01 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-02-23 19:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] arch/x86: Use -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables to suppress " Arvind Sankar
2020-02-24 20:33 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-02-24 21:05 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-24 21:12 ` Fangrui Song
2020-02-24 21:17 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-02-24 21:22 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-02-23 19:37 ` [PATCH 2/2] arch/x86: Drop unneeded linker script discard of .eh_frame Arvind Sankar
2020-02-24 20:45 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-02-24 21:33 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-24 21:58 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-02-24 23:21 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Stop generating .eh_frame sections Arvind Sankar
2020-02-24 23:21 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] arch/x86: Use -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables to suppress " Arvind Sankar
2020-02-24 23:28 ` Nathan Chancellor
2020-02-24 23:30 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-02-25 4:10 ` Kees Cook
2020-02-25 16:53 ` [tip: x86/boot] x86/*/Makefile: " tip-bot2 for Arvind Sankar
2020-02-24 23:21 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] arch/x86: Drop unneeded linker script discard of .eh_frame Arvind Sankar
2020-02-24 23:28 ` Nathan Chancellor
2020-02-24 23:33 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-02-25 4:11 ` Kees Cook
2020-02-25 16:53 ` [tip: x86/boot] x86/vmlinux: " tip-bot2 for Arvind Sankar
2020-02-23 22:00 ` [PATCH] x86/boot/compressed: Fix compressed kernel linking with lld Kees Cook
2020-02-24 6:06 ` Fangrui Song
2020-02-22 17:29 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/boot/compressed: Remove unnecessary sections from bzImage Borislav Petkov
2020-02-22 17:53 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-22 7:42 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-02-22 16:22 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-22 23:20 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-02-24 13:28 ` Michael Matz
2020-02-24 20:51 ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-02-24 21:28 ` Fangrui Song
2020-02-24 21:48 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-24 22:17 ` Fangrui Song
2020-02-24 22:43 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-24 22:50 ` Fangrui Song
2020-02-24 23:08 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-25 5:35 ` --orphan-handling=warn (was Re: [PATCH 2/2] x86/boot/compressed: Remove unnecessary sections) " Kees Cook
2020-02-25 16:42 ` --orphan-handling=warn Arvind Sankar
2020-02-25 18:29 ` --orphan-handling=warn Arvind Sankar
2020-02-25 19:42 ` --orphan-handling=warn Kees Cook
2020-02-25 20:37 ` --orphan-handling=warn Nick Desaulniers
2020-02-25 22:02 ` --orphan-handling=warn Kees Cook
2020-02-26 1:56 ` --orphan-handling=warn Fangrui Song
2020-02-26 5:35 ` --orphan-handling=warn Kees Cook
2020-02-26 19:11 ` --orphan-handling=warn Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-26 19:26 ` --orphan-handling=warn Nick Desaulniers
2020-02-24 11:37 ` [tip: x86/boot] x86/boot/compressed: Remove .eh_frame section from bzImage tip-bot2 for Arvind Sankar
2020-02-24 16:41 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-24 17:16 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-02-24 17:28 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-05 16:29 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/boot/compressed/64: Remove .bss/.pgtable " Arvind Sankar
2020-02-18 18:03 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-19 12:09 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-02-19 17:57 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-19 18:22 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-02-19 19:06 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-06 11:18 ` Kees Cook
2020-02-19 16:55 ` [tip: x86/boot] " tip-bot2 for Arvind Sankar
2020-04-05 15:42 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Sergey Shatunov
2020-04-05 23:18 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-06 0:00 ` Sergey Shatunov
2020-04-06 3:51 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-06 3:51 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-06 7:32 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-06 8:47 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-04-06 9:11 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-06 9:11 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-06 11:20 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-04-06 11:20 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-04-06 13:22 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-06 13:29 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-06 13:29 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-06 16:01 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-06 16:01 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-06 16:22 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-06 16:22 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-06 16:52 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-06 16:52 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-06 16:59 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-06 18:06 ` [PATCH 1/2] efi/x86: Move efi stub globals from .bss to .data Arvind Sankar
2020-04-06 18:06 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-06 18:06 ` [PATCH 2/2] efi/x86: Always relocate the kernel for EFI handover entry Arvind Sankar
2020-04-14 8:20 ` [tip: efi/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Arvind Sankar
2020-04-06 18:29 ` [PATCH 1/2] efi/x86: Move efi stub globals from .bss to .data Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-06 18:29 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-08 7:43 ` Dave Young
2020-04-08 7:43 ` Dave Young
2020-04-08 7:49 ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2020-04-08 7:49 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-09 14:39 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-09 14:47 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-09 16:35 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-09 16:35 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-10 14:47 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-10 14:47 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-10 15:26 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-14 14:57 ` Daniel Kiper
2020-04-14 14:57 ` Daniel Kiper
2020-04-10 11:26 ` Thomas Meyer
2020-04-10 14:38 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-04-11 8:50 ` Thomas Meyer
2020-04-14 8:20 ` [tip: efi/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Arvind Sankar
2020-04-06 17:21 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/boot/compressed/64: Remove .bss/.pgtable from bzImage Borislav Petkov
2020-04-06 17:21 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-04-06 8:44 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-04-06 12:36 ` Sergey Shatunov
2020-04-06 13:20 ` Ard Biesheuvel
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