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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	soc@kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Sebastian Reichel <sebastian.reichel@collabora.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] ARM: SoC/genpd driver updates for v6.6
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2023 09:52:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdVxLkxN0bmSRXW74R_dGNDSRDB4Z=zE0DoiXDOuweSM0A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPDyKFpXLj_2HAgyV_VJf+GPQVmxb_iiDe77Q2MY17MDNqy9fA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ulf,

On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 1:39 PM Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 at 11:33, Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
> > If I may suggest something, I would call this "pmdomain" instead of
> > "genpd".  I don't think that /drivers/power/ is a particularly
> > suitable location for it, because it doesn't really have much to do
> > with power supplies and more to do with device PM.
>
> "pmdomain" is probably giving a reasonable good hint of what goes on
> in this subsystem. This works fine for me, thanks!

Sounds nice!
All of this lives in <linux/pm_domain.h> (with underscore?) anyway,
and "PM Domains" is the usual naming, as it covers both Power and
Clock Domains.

However, although I am quite familiar with genpd, I am still wondering
what is the meaning of the "generic" part in the name? And what is a
non-generic PM Domain?

> > Also, I would move drivers/base/power/domain.c to drivers/pmdomain/
> > (and rename it to something like core.c), because it would be a better
> > location for that fiile IMO.
>
> We could certainly do that, let's discuss it a bit more.
>
> Although, at this point I want to focus on the genpd providers, as to
> release some of the burden from arm-soc maintainers.
>
> > I can also handle future pull requests for this if that's fine with everyone.
>
> Thanks a lot for your offer! However, if a re-route is preferred (I
> think not?), this is probably better suited via arm-soc, as most
> changes are going to be arm platform specific.

Which brings me to the final question: what is the upstream path
for changes to drivers/genpd/*/ (or whatever it's gonna be called)?
Before, we sent PRs to (arm-)soc.  Do you expect us to send them to
you? There's usually quite some interaction between drivers/soc/reneas/
and drivers/genpd/renesas (and there are DT binding definitions),
but not more than with e.g. drivers/clk/renesas/.

And I just realized you moved the code and Makefiles to drivers/genpd/,
but not the Kconfig symbols and logic, which still lives under
drivers/soc/.  So resolving that (and the name) is something that
should be resolved sooner rather than later...

Thanks!

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	soc@kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	 Sebastian Reichel <sebastian.reichel@collabora.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] ARM: SoC/genpd driver updates for v6.6
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2023 09:52:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdVxLkxN0bmSRXW74R_dGNDSRDB4Z=zE0DoiXDOuweSM0A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPDyKFpXLj_2HAgyV_VJf+GPQVmxb_iiDe77Q2MY17MDNqy9fA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ulf,

On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 1:39 PM Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 at 11:33, Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@kernel.org> wrote:
> > If I may suggest something, I would call this "pmdomain" instead of
> > "genpd".  I don't think that /drivers/power/ is a particularly
> > suitable location for it, because it doesn't really have much to do
> > with power supplies and more to do with device PM.
>
> "pmdomain" is probably giving a reasonable good hint of what goes on
> in this subsystem. This works fine for me, thanks!

Sounds nice!
All of this lives in <linux/pm_domain.h> (with underscore?) anyway,
and "PM Domains" is the usual naming, as it covers both Power and
Clock Domains.

However, although I am quite familiar with genpd, I am still wondering
what is the meaning of the "generic" part in the name? And what is a
non-generic PM Domain?

> > Also, I would move drivers/base/power/domain.c to drivers/pmdomain/
> > (and rename it to something like core.c), because it would be a better
> > location for that fiile IMO.
>
> We could certainly do that, let's discuss it a bit more.
>
> Although, at this point I want to focus on the genpd providers, as to
> release some of the burden from arm-soc maintainers.
>
> > I can also handle future pull requests for this if that's fine with everyone.
>
> Thanks a lot for your offer! However, if a re-route is preferred (I
> think not?), this is probably better suited via arm-soc, as most
> changes are going to be arm platform specific.

Which brings me to the final question: what is the upstream path
for changes to drivers/genpd/*/ (or whatever it's gonna be called)?
Before, we sent PRs to (arm-)soc.  Do you expect us to send them to
you? There's usually quite some interaction between drivers/soc/reneas/
and drivers/genpd/renesas (and there are DT binding definitions),
but not more than with e.g. drivers/clk/renesas/.

And I just realized you moved the code and Makefiles to drivers/genpd/,
but not the Kconfig symbols and logic, which still lives under
drivers/soc/.  So resolving that (and the name) is something that
should be resolved sooner rather than later...

Thanks!

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-09-11  7:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-29 21:34 [GIT PULL] ARM: SoC/genpd driver updates for v6.6 Ulf Hansson
2023-08-29 21:34 ` Ulf Hansson
2023-08-30  0:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-30  0:18   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-30  0:31   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-30  0:31     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-30  0:47     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-08-30  0:47       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-08-30  1:19       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-30  1:19         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-30  8:33         ` Ulf Hansson
2023-08-30  8:33           ` Ulf Hansson
2023-08-30 15:07           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-30 15:07             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-31  0:08             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-31  0:08               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-08-31 11:29               ` Ulf Hansson
2023-08-31 11:29                 ` Ulf Hansson
2023-08-31  9:32           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-08-31  9:32             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-08-31 11:37             ` Ulf Hansson
2023-08-31 11:37               ` Ulf Hansson
2023-08-31 12:58               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-08-31 12:58                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2023-09-11  7:52               ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2023-09-11  7:52                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-11 11:28                 ` Ulf Hansson
2023-09-11 11:28                   ` Ulf Hansson
2023-09-11 11:48                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-11 11:48                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-11 12:06                     ` Ulf Hansson
2023-09-11 12:06                       ` Ulf Hansson
2023-09-11 13:06                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-11 13:06                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-09-11 13:57                         ` Ulf Hansson
2023-09-11 13:57                           ` Ulf Hansson
2023-09-12 13:57                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-12 13:57                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-09-12 22:19                     ` Ulf Hansson
2023-09-12 22:19                       ` Ulf Hansson
2023-08-31  0:10 ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-08-31  0:10   ` pr-tracker-bot
2023-09-26 21:03 ` patchwork-bot+linux-soc
2023-09-26 21:21 ` patchwork-bot+linux-soc

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