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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@linux-mips.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kbuild <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Russell King <rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	kernel-build-reports@lists.linaro.org,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: [RFC] minimum gcc version for kernel: raise to gcc-4.3 or 4.6?
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:16:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdWKngq9TAkjEAYscQRVzKpO63-XVcnjzEM0UNVX_1Ddhg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a03BTEBgz87k_dhJuqzOYQm_S5FFDrFgcBAE5FCH-e=dQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Arnd,

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Maciej W. Rozycki <macro@linux-mips.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>> > If there's no real good reason (brokenness) to deprecate gcc-4.1, I would not
>>> > do it.I guess most people using old compilers know what they're doing.
>>>
>>> What I'm trying to find out first is whether "people regularly using 10+
>>> year old compilers for the latest kernels" is a strict subset of "people in
>>> Geert's household".
>>
>> Well I do not live with Geert TBH.
>
> Sorry about that, you had mentioned that you had used it recently, which should
> have weighed more than my own results.

If you prefer to consider everyone who's been sleeping in the same room
at one of the Oldenburg Linux meetings as part of my household, that's
fine for me ;-)

> So it still fails, but only because of one compiler error that I can avoid by
> disabling that driver, and you probably use a slightly patched compiler
> version that doesn't have this particular bug, or it was a regression between
> gcc-4.1.2 and 4.1.3.

Mine is also some patched version of 4.1.1, built from Ubuntu sources:

    gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-21)

These sources probably even contained the fixes to make gcc-4.1.1
usable on CELL.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	linux-kbuild <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel-build-reports@lists.linaro.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Russell King <rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@linux-mips.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] minimum gcc version for kernel: raise to gcc-4.3 or 4.6?
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:16:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdWKngq9TAkjEAYscQRVzKpO63-XVcnjzEM0UNVX_1Ddhg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a03BTEBgz87k_dhJuqzOYQm_S5FFDrFgcBAE5FCH-e=dQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Arnd,

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Maciej W. Rozycki <macro@linux-mips.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>> > If there's no real good reason (brokenness) to deprecate gcc-4.1, I would not
>>> > do it.I guess most people using old compilers know what they're doing.
>>>
>>> What I'm trying to find out first is whether "people regularly using 10+
>>> year old compilers for the latest kernels" is a strict subset of "people in
>>> Geert's household".
>>
>> Well I do not live with Geert TBH.
>
> Sorry about that, you had mentioned that you had used it recently, which should
> have weighed more than my own results.

If you prefer to consider everyone who's been sleeping in the same room
at one of the Oldenburg Linux meetings as part of my household, that's
fine for me ;-)

> So it still fails, but only because of one compiler error that I can avoid by
> disabling that driver, and you probably use a slightly patched compiler
> version that doesn't have this particular bug, or it was a regression between
> gcc-4.1.2 and 4.1.3.

Mine is also some patched version of 4.1.1, built from Ubuntu sources:

    gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-21)

These sources probably even contained the fixes to make gcc-4.1.1
usable on CELL.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: geert@linux-m68k.org (Geert Uytterhoeven)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC] minimum gcc version for kernel: raise to gcc-4.3 or 4.6?
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:16:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdWKngq9TAkjEAYscQRVzKpO63-XVcnjzEM0UNVX_1Ddhg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a03BTEBgz87k_dhJuqzOYQm_S5FFDrFgcBAE5FCH-e=dQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Arnd,

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Maciej W. Rozycki <macro@linux-mips.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>> > If there's no real good reason (brokenness) to deprecate gcc-4.1, I would not
>>> > do it.I guess most people using old compilers know what they're doing.
>>>
>>> What I'm trying to find out first is whether "people regularly using 10+
>>> year old compilers for the latest kernels" is a strict subset of "people in
>>> Geert's household".
>>
>> Well I do not live with Geert TBH.
>
> Sorry about that, you had mentioned that you had used it recently, which should
> have weighed more than my own results.

If you prefer to consider everyone who's been sleeping in the same room
at one of the Oldenburg Linux meetings as part of my household, that's
fine for me ;-)

> So it still fails, but only because of one compiler error that I can avoid by
> disabling that driver, and you probably use a slightly patched compiler
> version that doesn't have this particular bug, or it was a regression between
> gcc-4.1.2 and 4.1.3.

Mine is also some patched version of 4.1.1, built from Ubuntu sources:

    gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-21)

These sources probably even contained the fixes to make gcc-4.1.1
usable on CELL.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert at linux-m68k.org

In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
                                -- Linus Torvalds

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-24 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-16 10:56 [RFC] minimum gcc version for kernel: raise to gcc-4.3 or 4.6? Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56 ` [PATCH 01/13] [HACK] gcc-4.5: avoid link errors for unused function pointers Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56 ` [PATCH 02/13] KVM: arm: fix gcc-4.5 build Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-04 10:38   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-01-04 10:38     ` Christoffer Dall
2016-12-16 10:56 ` [PATCH 03/13] ARM: div64: fix building with gcc-4.5 and lower Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56 ` [PATCH 04/13] vfio-pci: use 32-bit comparisons for register address for gcc-4.5 Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 15:30   ` Alex Williamson
2016-12-16 19:50     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56 ` [PATCH 05/13] clk: pxa: fix gcc-4.4 build Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56 ` [PATCH 06/13] ARM: atomic: " Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56 ` [PATCH 07/13] watchdog: kempld: fix gcc-4.3 build Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56 ` [PATCH 08/13] arm/arm64: xen: avoid gcc-4.4 warning Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56 ` [PATCH 09/13] ARM: mark cmpxchg and xchg __always_inline for gcc-4.3 Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56 ` [PATCH 10/13] asm-generic: mark cmpxchg as " Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56 ` [PATCH 11/13] fs: fix unsigned enum warning with gcc-4.2 Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-03 22:47   ` Brendan Gregg
2017-02-28 21:53     ` Brendan Gregg
2016-12-16 10:56 ` [PATCH 12/13] KVM: arm: avoid binary number literals for gcc-4.2 Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-01-04 10:39   ` Christoffer Dall
2017-01-04 10:39     ` Christoffer Dall
2016-12-16 10:56 ` [PATCH 13/13] ARM: avoid 'Q' asm constraint for gcc-4.1 and earlier Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 10:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 11:14 ` [RFC] minimum gcc version for kernel: raise to gcc-4.3 or 4.6? Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 11:14   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 11:14   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-16 19:52   ` Kees Cook
2017-04-16 19:52     ` Kees Cook
2017-04-16 19:52     ` Kees Cook
2017-04-20 10:15     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-20 10:15       ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-20 10:15       ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-20 19:52       ` Kees Cook
2017-04-20 19:52         ` Kees Cook
2017-04-20 19:52         ` Kees Cook
2017-04-20 19:52         ` Kees Cook
2017-04-21 20:55         ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-21 20:55           ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-21 20:55           ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-21 21:05           ` Kees Cook
2017-04-21 21:05             ` Kees Cook
2017-04-21 21:05             ` Kees Cook
2017-04-22  3:10             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-04-22  3:10               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-04-22  3:10               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-04-22 15:30               ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-22 15:30                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-22 15:30                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-23 20:13                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-23 20:13                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-23 20:13                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-23 20:13                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-24  9:44                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-24  9:44                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-24  9:44                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-24  9:44                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-24 10:17                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-24 10:17                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-24 10:17                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-24 10:17                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-24 14:13                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-24 14:13                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-24 14:13                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-24 16:53                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-04-24 16:53                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-04-24 16:53                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-04-24 17:29                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-24 17:29                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-24 17:29                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-24 18:16                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2017-04-24 18:16                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-24 18:16                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-24 18:16                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-24 18:30                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-04-24 18:30                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-04-24 18:30                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-04-24 18:30                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2017-04-24 20:30                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-24 20:30                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-24 20:30                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2017-04-24 20:52                             ` Kees Cook
2017-04-24 20:52                               ` Kees Cook
2017-04-24 20:52                               ` Kees Cook
2017-04-25  7:06                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-25  7:06                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-25  7:06                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-04-25  9:22     ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-04-25  9:22       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2017-04-25  9:22       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2016-12-16 15:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-16 15:54   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-16 19:58   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 19:58     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 20:34     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-16 17:00 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-12-16 22:00   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-16 22:00     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-17 11:29     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-01-02 12:23       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-12-20  9:59     ` Heiko Carstens

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