From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
Cc: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
Sui Jingfeng <15330273260@189.cn>,
javierm@redhat.com, daniel@ffwll.ch, vgupta@kernel.org,
chenhuacai@kernel.org, kernel@xen0n.name, davem@davemloft.net,
arnd@arndb.de, sam@ravnborg.org, linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
loongarch@lists.linux.dev, linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org,
sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/6] fbdev/matrox: Remove trailing whitespaces
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 15:10:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdX8piLhEbV+pcWvdn1OEGH9N5FwDOQcqNcEjBx3=ThjXA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15fe1489-f0fa-bbf6-ec08-a270bd4f1559@gmx.de>
Hi Helge,
On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 3:05 PM Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de> wrote:
> On 5/11/23 09:55, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> > But the work I do within fbdev is mostly for improving DRM.
>
> Sure.
>
> > For the
> > other issues in this file, I don't think that matroxfb should even be
> > around any longer. Fbdev has been deprecated for a long time. But a
> > small number of drivers are still in use and we still need its
> > framebuffer console. So someone should either put significant effort
> > into maintaining fbdev, or it should be phased out. But neither is
> > happening.
>
> You're wrong.
>
> You don't mention that for most older machines DRM isn't an acceptable
> way to go due to it's limitations, e.g. it's low-speed due to missing
> 2D-acceleration for older cards and and it's incapability to change screen
> resolution at runtime (just to name two of the bigger limitations here).
> So, unless we somehow find a good way to move such drivers over to DRM
> (with a set of minimal 2D acceleration), they are still important.
DRM can change resolution at runtime, just not through the fbdev API.
Or do you mean the resolution of the text console, akin to
"fbset <mode>"? I have to admit I do not know if there is a command
line tool to do that...
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org
In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
-- Linus Torvalds
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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
arnd@arndb.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
chenhuacai@kernel.org, javierm@redhat.com,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
Sui Jingfeng <15330273260@189.cn>,
loongarch@lists.linux.dev, linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org,
linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, vgupta@kernel.org,
sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, kernel@xen0n.name,
linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org, sam@ravnborg.org,
davem@davemloft.net, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/6] fbdev/matrox: Remove trailing whitespaces
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 15:10:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdX8piLhEbV+pcWvdn1OEGH9N5FwDOQcqNcEjBx3=ThjXA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15fe1489-f0fa-bbf6-ec08-a270bd4f1559@gmx.de>
Hi Helge,
On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 3:05 PM Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de> wrote:
> On 5/11/23 09:55, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> > But the work I do within fbdev is mostly for improving DRM.
>
> Sure.
>
> > For the
> > other issues in this file, I don't think that matroxfb should even be
> > around any longer. Fbdev has been deprecated for a long time. But a
> > small number of drivers are still in use and we still need its
> > framebuffer console. So someone should either put significant effort
> > into maintaining fbdev, or it should be phased out. But neither is
> > happening.
>
> You're wrong.
>
> You don't mention that for most older machines DRM isn't an acceptable
> way to go due to it's limitations, e.g. it's low-speed due to missing
> 2D-acceleration for older cards and and it's incapability to change screen
> resolution at runtime (just to name two of the bigger limitations here).
> So, unless we somehow find a good way to move such drivers over to DRM
> (with a set of minimal 2D acceleration), they are still important.
DRM can change resolution at runtime, just not through the fbdev API.
Or do you mean the resolution of the text console, akin to
"fbset <mode>"? I have to admit I do not know if there is a command
line tool to do that...
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org
In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
-- Linus Torvalds
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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
Cc: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
Sui Jingfeng <15330273260@189.cn>,
javierm@redhat.com, daniel@ffwll.ch, vgupta@kernel.org,
chenhuacai@kernel.org, kernel@xen0n.name, davem@davemloft.net,
arnd@arndb.de, sam@ravnborg.org, linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
loongarch@lists.linux.dev, linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org,
sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/6] fbdev/matrox: Remove trailing whitespaces
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 15:10:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdX8piLhEbV+pcWvdn1OEGH9N5FwDOQcqNcEjBx3=ThjXA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15fe1489-f0fa-bbf6-ec08-a270bd4f1559@gmx.de>
Hi Helge,
On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 3:05 PM Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de> wrote:
> On 5/11/23 09:55, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> > But the work I do within fbdev is mostly for improving DRM.
>
> Sure.
>
> > For the
> > other issues in this file, I don't think that matroxfb should even be
> > around any longer. Fbdev has been deprecated for a long time. But a
> > small number of drivers are still in use and we still need its
> > framebuffer console. So someone should either put significant effort
> > into maintaining fbdev, or it should be phased out. But neither is
> > happening.
>
> You're wrong.
>
> You don't mention that for most older machines DRM isn't an acceptable
> way to go due to it's limitations, e.g. it's low-speed due to missing
> 2D-acceleration for older cards and and it's incapability to change screen
> resolution at runtime (just to name two of the bigger limitations here).
> So, unless we somehow find a good way to move such drivers over to DRM
> (with a set of minimal 2D acceleration), they are still important.
DRM can change resolution at runtime, just not through the fbdev API.
Or do you mean the resolution of the text console, akin to
"fbset <mode>"? I have to admit I do not know if there is a command
line tool to do that...
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org
In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
-- Linus Torvalds
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From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
To: Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
Cc: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
Sui Jingfeng <15330273260@189.cn>,
javierm@redhat.com, daniel@ffwll.ch, vgupta@kernel.org,
chenhuacai@kernel.org, kernel@xen0n.name, davem@davemloft.net,
arnd@arndb.de, sam@ravnborg.org, linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, loongarch@lists.linux.dev,
linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/6] fbdev/matrox: Remove trailing whitespaces
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 13:10:41 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMuHMdX8piLhEbV+pcWvdn1OEGH9N5FwDOQcqNcEjBx3=ThjXA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15fe1489-f0fa-bbf6-ec08-a270bd4f1559@gmx.de>
Hi Helge,
On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 3:05 PM Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de> wrote:
> On 5/11/23 09:55, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
> > But the work I do within fbdev is mostly for improving DRM.
>
> Sure.
>
> > For the
> > other issues in this file, I don't think that matroxfb should even be
> > around any longer. Fbdev has been deprecated for a long time. But a
> > small number of drivers are still in use and we still need its
> > framebuffer console. So someone should either put significant effort
> > into maintaining fbdev, or it should be phased out. But neither is
> > happening.
>
> You're wrong.
>
> You don't mention that for most older machines DRM isn't an acceptable
> way to go due to it's limitations, e.g. it's low-speed due to missing
> 2D-acceleration for older cards and and it's incapability to change screen
> resolution at runtime (just to name two of the bigger limitations here).
> So, unless we somehow find a good way to move such drivers over to DRM
> (with a set of minimal 2D acceleration), they are still important.
DRM can change resolution at runtime, just not through the fbdev API.
Or do you mean the resolution of the text console, akin to
"fbset <mode>"? I have to admit I do not know if there is a command
line tool to do that...
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
--
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org
In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But
when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that.
-- Linus Torvalds
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2023-05-10 11:05 [PATCH v6 0/6] fbdev: Move framebuffer I/O helpers to <asm/fb.h> Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] fbdev/matrox: Remove trailing whitespaces Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 18:20 ` Sui Jingfeng
2023-05-10 18:20 ` Sui Jingfeng
2023-05-10 18:20 ` Sui Jingfeng
2023-05-11 7:55 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-11 7:55 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-11 7:55 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-11 7:55 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-11 9:24 ` Sui Jingfeng
2023-05-11 9:24 ` Sui Jingfeng
2023-05-11 9:24 ` Sui Jingfeng
2023-05-11 13:05 ` Helge Deller
2023-05-11 13:05 ` Helge Deller
2023-05-11 13:05 ` Helge Deller
2023-05-11 13:05 ` Helge Deller
2023-05-11 13:10 ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2023-05-11 13:10 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-11 13:10 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-11 13:10 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-11 16:23 ` Helge Deller
2023-05-11 16:23 ` Helge Deller
2023-05-11 16:23 ` Helge Deller
2023-05-11 16:23 ` Helge Deller
2023-05-11 14:27 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-11 14:27 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-11 14:27 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-11 14:27 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-11 17:02 ` Helge Deller
2023-05-11 17:02 ` Helge Deller
2023-05-11 17:02 ` Helge Deller
2023-05-11 17:02 ` Helge Deller
2023-05-12 7:14 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-12 7:14 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-12 7:14 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-12 7:14 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-12 10:04 ` Finn Thain
2023-05-12 10:04 ` Finn Thain
2023-05-12 10:04 ` Finn Thain
2023-05-12 10:04 ` Finn Thain
2023-05-10 11:05 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] ipu-v3: Include <linux/io.h> Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] fbdev: Include <linux/io.h> in various drivers Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] fbdev: Include <linux/fb.h> instead of <asm/fb.h> Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] fbdev: Move framebuffer I/O helpers into <asm/fb.h> Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 12:34 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-10 12:34 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-10 12:34 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-10 12:34 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-10 14:20 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 14:20 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 14:20 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 14:20 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 14:34 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-10 14:34 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-10 14:34 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-10 14:34 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-10 15:11 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 15:11 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 15:11 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 15:11 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 14:03 ` kernel test robot
2023-05-10 14:03 ` kernel test robot
2023-05-10 14:03 ` kernel test robot
2023-05-10 14:03 ` kernel test robot
2023-05-10 14:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-05-10 14:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-05-10 14:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-05-10 14:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-05-10 14:27 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 14:27 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 14:27 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 14:27 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 15:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-05-10 15:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-05-10 15:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-05-10 15:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-05-11 10:53 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-11 10:53 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-11 10:53 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-11 12:35 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-11 12:35 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-11 12:35 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-11 12:35 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-05-11 12:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-05-11 12:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-05-11 12:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-05-11 12:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-05-11 13:22 ` Artur Rojek
2023-05-11 13:22 ` Artur Rojek
2023-05-11 13:22 ` Artur Rojek
2023-05-11 13:22 ` Artur Rojek
2023-05-11 13:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-05-11 13:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-05-11 13:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-05-11 13:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-05-11 13:12 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-11 13:12 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-11 13:12 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] fbdev: Rename fb_mem*() helpers Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2023-05-10 11:05 ` Thomas Zimmermann
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