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From: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
To: Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@collabora.com>
Cc: kernel@collabora.com, "Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Khazhismel Kumykov <khazhy@google.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ext4 <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] File system wide monitoring
Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 11:31:15 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOQ4uxjzoRLPK0w=wxpObu5Bg3aV=0+BDEFwhMx5uN5Zx9J5nQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210521024134.1032503-1-krisman@collabora.com>

On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 5:42 AM Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
<krisman@collabora.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> This series follow up on my previous proposal [1] to support file system
> wide monitoring.  As suggested by Amir, this proposal drops the ring
> buffer in favor of a single slot associated with each mark.  This
> simplifies a bit the implementation, as you can see in the code.
>
> As a reminder, This proposal is limited to an interface for
> administrators to monitor the health of a file system, instead of a
> generic inteface for file errors.  Therefore, this doesn't solve the
> problem of writeback errors or the need to watch a specific subtree.
>
> In comparison to the previous RFC, this implementation also drops the
> per-fs data and location, and leave those as future extensions.
>
> * Implementation
>
> The feature is implemented on top of fanotify, as a new type of fanotify
> mark, FAN_ERROR, which a file system monitoring tool can register to
> receive error notifications.  When an error occurs a new notification is
> generated, in addition followed by this info field:
>
>  - FS generic data: A file system agnostic structure that has a generic
>  error code and identifies the filesystem.  Basically, it let's
>  userspace know something happened on a monitored filesystem.  Since
>  only the first error is recorded since the last read, this also
>  includes a counter of errors that happened since the last read.
>
> * Testing
>
> This was tested by watching notifications flowing from an intentionally
> corrupted filesystem in different places.  In addition, other events
> were watched in an attempt to detect regressions.
>
> Is there a specific testsuite for fanotify I should be running?

LTP is where we maintain the fsnotify regression test.
The inotify* and fanotify* tests specifically.

>
> * Patches
>
> This patchset is divided as follows: Patch 1 through 5 are refactoring
> to fsnotify/fanotify in preparation for FS_ERROR/FAN_ERROR; patch 6 and
> 7 implement the FS_ERROR API for filesystems to report error; patch 8
> add support for FAN_ERROR in fanotify; Patch 9 is an example
> implementation for ext4; patch 10 and 11 provide a sample userspace code
> and documentation.
>
> I also pushed the full series to:
>
>   https://gitlab.collabora.com/krisman/linux -b fanotify-notifications-single-slot

All in all the series looks good, give or take some implementation
details.

One general comment about UAPI (CC linux-api) -
I think Darrick has proposed to report ino/gen instead of only ino.
I personally think it would be a shame not to reuse the already existing
FAN_EVENT_INFO_TYPE_FID record format, but I can understand why
you did not want to go there:
1. Not all error reports carry inode information
2. Not all filesystems support file handles
3. Any other reason that I missed?

My proposal is that in cases where group was initialized with
FAN_REPORT_FID (implies fs supports file handles) AND error report
does carry inode information, record fanotify_info in fanotify_error_event
and report FAN_EVENT_INFO_TYPE_FID record in addition to
FAN_EVENT_INFO_TYPE_ERROR record to user.

I am not insisting on this change, but I think it won't add much complexity
to your implementation and it will allow more flexibility to the API going
forward.

However, for the time being, if you want to avoid the UAPI discussion,
I don't mind if you disallow FAN_ERROR mark for group with
FAN_REPORT_FID.

In most likelihood, the tool monitoring filesystem for errors will not care
about other events, so it shouldn't care about FAN_REPORT_FID anyway.
I'd like to hear what other think about this point as well.

Thanks,
Amir.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-21  8:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-21  2:41 [PATCH 00/11] File system wide monitoring Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-05-21  2:41 ` [PATCH 01/11] fanotify: Fold event size calculation to its own function Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-05-21  2:41 ` [PATCH 02/11] fanotify: Split fsid check from other fid mode checks Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-05-21  8:33   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-05-21  2:41 ` [PATCH 03/11] fanotify: Simplify directory sanity check in DFID_NAME mode Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-05-21  8:37   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-05-21  2:41 ` [PATCH 04/11] fanotify: Expose fanotify_mark Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-05-21  9:06   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-05-21  2:41 ` [PATCH 05/11] inotify: Don't force FS_IN_IGNORED Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-05-21  9:07   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-05-21  2:41 ` [PATCH 06/11] fsnotify: Support FS_ERROR event type Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-05-21  9:13   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-05-21  2:41 ` [PATCH 07/11] fsnotify: Introduce helpers to send error_events Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-05-21  9:32   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-05-22 17:51   ` kernel test robot
2021-05-22 17:51     ` kernel test robot
2021-05-21  2:41 ` [PATCH 08/11] fanotify: Introduce FAN_ERROR event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-05-21 11:02   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-05-21 15:02   ` Darrick J. Wong
2021-05-21  2:41 ` [PATCH 09/11] ext4: Send notifications on error Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-05-21  9:44   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-05-21  2:41 ` [PATCH 10/11] samples: Add fs error monitoring example Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-05-21  9:48   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-05-26 23:37     ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-05-22 20:21   ` kernel test robot
2021-05-22 20:21     ` kernel test robot
2021-05-21  2:41 ` [PATCH 11/11] Documentation: Document the FAN_ERROR event Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-05-21  9:54   ` Amir Goldstein
2021-05-21  8:31 ` Amir Goldstein [this message]
2021-05-22 23:25 ` [PATCH 00/11] File system wide monitoring Theodore Y. Ts'o
2021-05-24 15:19   ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-05-24  3:06 ` Ian Kent

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