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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/7] dax: change bdev_dax_supported() to support boolean returns
Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 21:02:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4iXTsxmQgjoLs2E_8QrLHrFOV_58T7UYf0zPJuB2744qQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180601022418.GR10363@dastard>

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 7:24 PM, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 06:57:33PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:26 PM, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
>> > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 12:13:32PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
>> >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 04:01:14PM -0600, Ross Zwisler wrote:
>> >> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 02:25:10PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
>> >> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 01:51:01PM -0600, Ross Zwisler wrote:
>> >> > > > From: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > The function return values are confusing with the way the function is
>> >> > > > named. We expect a true or false return value but it actually returns
>> >> > > > 0/-errno.  This makes the code very confusing. Changing the return values
>> >> > > > to return a bool where if DAX is supported then return true and no DAX
>> >> > > > support returns false.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Signed-off-by: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>
>> >> > > > Signed-off-by: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Looks ok, do you want me to pull the first two patches through the xfs
>> >> > > tree?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Reviewed-by: Darrick J. Wong <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for the review.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm not sure what's best.  If you do that then Mike will need to have a DM
>> >> > branch for the rest of the series based on your stable commits, yea?
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike what would you prefer?
>> >>
>> >> I /was/ about to say that I would pull in the first two patches, but now
>> >> I can't get xfs to mount with pmem at all, and have no way of testing
>> >> this...?
>> >
>> > I have similar problems, too, but:
>> >
>> > $ ndctl list
>> > [
>> >   {
>> >     "dev":"namespace1.0",
>> >     "mode":"raw",
>> >     "size":8589934592,
>> >     "sector_size":512,
>> >     "blockdev":"pmem1"
>> >   },
>> >   {
>> >     "dev":"namespace0.0",
>> >     "mode":"raw",
>> >     "size":8589934592,
>> >     "sector_size":512,
>> >     "blockdev":"pmem0"
>> >   }
>> > ]
>> > $ sudo ndctl create-namespace -f -e namespace0.0 --mode=fsdax
>> >   Error: operation failed, region0 fsdax mode not available
>> >
>> > failed to reconfigure namespace: Invalid argument
>> > $
>> >
>> > I can't make head or tail of what is going wrong here - how am I
>> > supposed to debug this and get it working again?
>> >
>> > FWIW, XFS+DAX used to just work on this setup (I hadn't even
>> > installed ndctl until this morning!) but after changing the kernel
>> > it no longer works. That would make it a regression, yes?
>>
>> This commit caused the behavior change:
>>
>>     569d0365f571 dax: require 'struct page' by default for filesystem dax
>>
>> The justification is in that patch, but the short summary is we killed
>> off "pageless" dax because it had so many incomplete holes and
>> surprise behaviors. It needed to die on the path to making dax not
>> experimental, i.e. to close safety holes, and be feature complete for
>> all the ways userspace expects to use mappings (direct-io, fork,
>> poison handling, etc).
>>
>> I suspect your kernel does not have CONFIG_ZONE_DEVICE enabled which
>> has the following dependencies:
>>
>>         depends on MEMORY_HOTPLUG
>>         depends on MEMORY_HOTREMOVE
>>         depends on SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP
>
> Filesystem DAX now has a dependency on memory hotplug?
>
> Fmeh. No wonder I never enabled CONFIG_ZONE_DEVICE. It's described in
> menuconfig as "Device memory (pmem, HMM, etc...) hotplug support".
> This isn't for hotplug support - it required for basic DAX
> functionality. I've never enabled memory hotplug in any of my test
> kernel configs, because the VMs I run the kernels on don't ever get
> memory hotplugged....
>
> OK, works now I've found the magic config incantantions to turn
> everything I now need on.
>
> Can we get this rationalised to a single top level config
> option in the filesystems menu "Enable Filesystem DAX" that turns
> on every knob that is required?

That sounds good to me. Will do.
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From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/7] dax: change bdev_dax_supported() to support boolean returns
Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 21:02:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4iXTsxmQgjoLs2E_8QrLHrFOV_58T7UYf0zPJuB2744qQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180601022418.GR10363@dastard>

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 7:24 PM, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 06:57:33PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:26 PM, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
>> > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 12:13:32PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
>> >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 04:01:14PM -0600, Ross Zwisler wrote:
>> >> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 02:25:10PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
>> >> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 01:51:01PM -0600, Ross Zwisler wrote:
>> >> > > > From: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > The function return values are confusing with the way the function is
>> >> > > > named. We expect a true or false return value but it actually returns
>> >> > > > 0/-errno.  This makes the code very confusing. Changing the return values
>> >> > > > to return a bool where if DAX is supported then return true and no DAX
>> >> > > > support returns false.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Signed-off-by: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>
>> >> > > > Signed-off-by: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Looks ok, do you want me to pull the first two patches through the xfs
>> >> > > tree?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Reviewed-by: Darrick J. Wong <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for the review.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm not sure what's best.  If you do that then Mike will need to have a DM
>> >> > branch for the rest of the series based on your stable commits, yea?
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike what would you prefer?
>> >>
>> >> I /was/ about to say that I would pull in the first two patches, but now
>> >> I can't get xfs to mount with pmem at all, and have no way of testing
>> >> this...?
>> >
>> > I have similar problems, too, but:
>> >
>> > $ ndctl list
>> > [
>> >   {
>> >     "dev":"namespace1.0",
>> >     "mode":"raw",
>> >     "size":8589934592,
>> >     "sector_size":512,
>> >     "blockdev":"pmem1"
>> >   },
>> >   {
>> >     "dev":"namespace0.0",
>> >     "mode":"raw",
>> >     "size":8589934592,
>> >     "sector_size":512,
>> >     "blockdev":"pmem0"
>> >   }
>> > ]
>> > $ sudo ndctl create-namespace -f -e namespace0.0 --mode=fsdax
>> >   Error: operation failed, region0 fsdax mode not available
>> >
>> > failed to reconfigure namespace: Invalid argument
>> > $
>> >
>> > I can't make head or tail of what is going wrong here - how am I
>> > supposed to debug this and get it working again?
>> >
>> > FWIW, XFS+DAX used to just work on this setup (I hadn't even
>> > installed ndctl until this morning!) but after changing the kernel
>> > it no longer works. That would make it a regression, yes?
>>
>> This commit caused the behavior change:
>>
>>     569d0365f571 dax: require 'struct page' by default for filesystem dax
>>
>> The justification is in that patch, but the short summary is we killed
>> off "pageless" dax because it had so many incomplete holes and
>> surprise behaviors. It needed to die on the path to making dax not
>> experimental, i.e. to close safety holes, and be feature complete for
>> all the ways userspace expects to use mappings (direct-io, fork,
>> poison handling, etc).
>>
>> I suspect your kernel does not have CONFIG_ZONE_DEVICE enabled which
>> has the following dependencies:
>>
>>         depends on MEMORY_HOTPLUG
>>         depends on MEMORY_HOTREMOVE
>>         depends on SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP
>
> Filesystem DAX now has a dependency on memory hotplug?
>
> Fmeh. No wonder I never enabled CONFIG_ZONE_DEVICE. It's described in
> menuconfig as "Device memory (pmem, HMM, etc...) hotplug support".
> This isn't for hotplug support - it required for basic DAX
> functionality. I've never enabled memory hotplug in any of my test
> kernel configs, because the VMs I run the kernels on don't ever get
> memory hotplugged....
>
> OK, works now I've found the magic config incantantions to turn
> everything I now need on.
>
> Can we get this rationalised to a single top level config
> option in the filesystems menu "Enable Filesystem DAX" that turns
> on every knob that is required?

That sounds good to me. Will do.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Dave Chinner <david-FqsqvQoI3Ljby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mike Snitzer <snitzer-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-nvdimm
	<linux-nvdimm-hn68Rpc1hR1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
	"Darrick J. Wong"
	<darrick.wong-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-xfs <linux-xfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	device-mapper development
	<dm-devel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-fsdevel
	<linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/7] dax: change bdev_dax_supported() to support boolean returns
Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 21:02:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPcyv4iXTsxmQgjoLs2E_8QrLHrFOV_58T7UYf0zPJuB2744qQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180601022418.GR10363@dastard>

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 7:24 PM, Dave Chinner <david-FqsqvQoI3Ljby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 06:57:33PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:26 PM, Dave Chinner <david-FqsqvQoI3Ljby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 12:13:32PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
>> >> On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 04:01:14PM -0600, Ross Zwisler wrote:
>> >> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 02:25:10PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
>> >> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 01:51:01PM -0600, Ross Zwisler wrote:
>> >> > > > From: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > The function return values are confusing with the way the function is
>> >> > > > named. We expect a true or false return value but it actually returns
>> >> > > > 0/-errno.  This makes the code very confusing. Changing the return values
>> >> > > > to return a bool where if DAX is supported then return true and no DAX
>> >> > > > support returns false.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Signed-off-by: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > Signed-off-by: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Looks ok, do you want me to pull the first two patches through the xfs
>> >> > > tree?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Reviewed-by: Darrick J. Wong <darrick.wong-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for the review.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm not sure what's best.  If you do that then Mike will need to have a DM
>> >> > branch for the rest of the series based on your stable commits, yea?
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike what would you prefer?
>> >>
>> >> I /was/ about to say that I would pull in the first two patches, but now
>> >> I can't get xfs to mount with pmem at all, and have no way of testing
>> >> this...?
>> >
>> > I have similar problems, too, but:
>> >
>> > $ ndctl list
>> > [
>> >   {
>> >     "dev":"namespace1.0",
>> >     "mode":"raw",
>> >     "size":8589934592,
>> >     "sector_size":512,
>> >     "blockdev":"pmem1"
>> >   },
>> >   {
>> >     "dev":"namespace0.0",
>> >     "mode":"raw",
>> >     "size":8589934592,
>> >     "sector_size":512,
>> >     "blockdev":"pmem0"
>> >   }
>> > ]
>> > $ sudo ndctl create-namespace -f -e namespace0.0 --mode=fsdax
>> >   Error: operation failed, region0 fsdax mode not available
>> >
>> > failed to reconfigure namespace: Invalid argument
>> > $
>> >
>> > I can't make head or tail of what is going wrong here - how am I
>> > supposed to debug this and get it working again?
>> >
>> > FWIW, XFS+DAX used to just work on this setup (I hadn't even
>> > installed ndctl until this morning!) but after changing the kernel
>> > it no longer works. That would make it a regression, yes?
>>
>> This commit caused the behavior change:
>>
>>     569d0365f571 dax: require 'struct page' by default for filesystem dax
>>
>> The justification is in that patch, but the short summary is we killed
>> off "pageless" dax because it had so many incomplete holes and
>> surprise behaviors. It needed to die on the path to making dax not
>> experimental, i.e. to close safety holes, and be feature complete for
>> all the ways userspace expects to use mappings (direct-io, fork,
>> poison handling, etc).
>>
>> I suspect your kernel does not have CONFIG_ZONE_DEVICE enabled which
>> has the following dependencies:
>>
>>         depends on MEMORY_HOTPLUG
>>         depends on MEMORY_HOTREMOVE
>>         depends on SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP
>
> Filesystem DAX now has a dependency on memory hotplug?
>
> Fmeh. No wonder I never enabled CONFIG_ZONE_DEVICE. It's described in
> menuconfig as "Device memory (pmem, HMM, etc...) hotplug support".
> This isn't for hotplug support - it required for basic DAX
> functionality. I've never enabled memory hotplug in any of my test
> kernel configs, because the VMs I run the kernels on don't ever get
> memory hotplugged....
>
> OK, works now I've found the magic config incantantions to turn
> everything I now need on.
>
> Can we get this rationalised to a single top level config
> option in the filesystems menu "Enable Filesystem DAX" that turns
> on every knob that is required?

That sounds good to me. Will do.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-01  4:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-29 19:50 [PATCH v2 0/7] Fix DM DAX handling Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 19:50 ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 19:50 ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 19:51 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] fs: allow per-device dax status checking for filesystems Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 19:51   ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 19:51   ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 19:51 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] dax: change bdev_dax_supported() to support boolean returns Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 19:51   ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 19:51   ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 21:25   ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-05-29 21:25     ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-05-29 21:25     ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-05-29 22:01     ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 22:01       ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-31 19:13       ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-05-31 19:13         ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-05-31 19:13         ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-05-31 20:34         ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-31 20:34           ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-31 20:34           ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-31 20:35         ` Dan Williams
2018-05-31 20:35           ` Dan Williams
2018-05-31 20:35           ` Dan Williams
2018-05-31 20:41         ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-31 20:41           ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-31 20:41           ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-31 20:52         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31 20:52           ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31 20:52           ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31 22:26           ` [dm-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2018-05-31 22:26             ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-05-31 22:26             ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-06-01 20:59             ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-01 20:59               ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-01 20:59               ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-01  1:26         ` Dave Chinner
2018-06-01  1:26           ` Dave Chinner
2018-06-01  1:57           ` Dan Williams
2018-06-01  1:57             ` Dan Williams
2018-06-01  2:24             ` Dave Chinner
2018-06-01  2:24               ` Dave Chinner
2018-06-01  2:24               ` Dave Chinner
2018-06-01  4:02               ` Dan Williams [this message]
2018-06-01  4:02                 ` Dan Williams
2018-06-01  4:02                 ` Dan Williams
2018-06-03 22:20                 ` Dave Chinner
2018-06-03 22:20                   ` Dave Chinner
2018-06-04  0:25                   ` Dave Chinner
2018-06-04  0:25                     ` Dave Chinner
2018-06-04  0:25                     ` Dave Chinner
2018-06-04  1:48                     ` Dan Williams
2018-06-04  1:48                       ` Dan Williams
2018-06-04  1:48                       ` Dan Williams
2018-06-04 23:40                       ` Dan Williams
2018-06-04 23:40                         ` Dan Williams
2018-06-04 23:40                         ` Dan Williams
2018-06-05  0:33                         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-05  0:33                           ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-05  0:33                           ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-05  5:55                           ` Dave Chinner
2018-06-05  5:55                             ` Dave Chinner
2018-06-05  5:55                             ` Dave Chinner
2018-06-05  3:32                         ` Dan Williams
2018-06-05  3:32                           ` Dan Williams
2018-05-29 19:51 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] dm: fix test for DAX device support Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 19:51   ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 19:51   ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-01 20:19   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-01 20:19     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-01 20:19     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-01 20:46     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-01 20:46       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-01 20:46       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-01 21:11       ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-01 21:11         ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-01 21:11         ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-01 21:16       ` Dan Williams
2018-06-01 21:16         ` Dan Williams
2018-06-01 21:16         ` Dan Williams
2018-05-29 19:51 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] dm: prevent DAX mounts if not supported Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 19:51   ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 19:51   ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-01 21:55   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-01 21:55     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-01 21:55     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-04 23:15     ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-04 23:15       ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-04 23:15       ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-20 15:17       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-20 15:17         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-25 19:20         ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-25 19:20           ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 19:51 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] dm: remove DM_TYPE_DAX_BIO_BASED dm_queue_mode Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 19:51   ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 19:51   ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-01 22:04   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-01 22:04     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-01 22:04     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-04 23:24     ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-04 23:24       ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-04 23:24       ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-04 23:49       ` Kani, Toshi
2018-06-04 23:49         ` Kani, Toshi
2018-06-04 23:49         ` Kani, Toshi
2018-06-05  0:46       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-05  0:46         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-05  0:46         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-06 17:24         ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-06 17:24           ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-06 17:24           ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-06 22:29           ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-06 22:29             ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-06 22:29             ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-29 19:51 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] dm-snap: remove unnecessary direct_access() stub Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 19:51   ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 19:51   ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 19:51 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] dm-error: " Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 19:51   ` Ross Zwisler
2018-05-29 19:51   ` Ross Zwisler

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