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From: "Théo Lebrun" <theo.lebrun@bootlin.com>
To: "Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Roger Quadros" <rogerq@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Chen" <peter.chen@kernel.org>,
	"Pawel Laszczak" <pawell@cadence.com>,
	"Nishanth Menon" <nm@ti.com>,
	"Vignesh Raghavendra" <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	"Tero Kristo" <kristo@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Grégory Clement" <gregory.clement@bootlin.com>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/7] dt-bindings: usb: ti,j721e-usb: add ti,j7200-usb compatible
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 11:46:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CX5A3OSPKM1Q.1CPN17KI0PD7A@tleb-bootlin-xps13-01> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d0cc33d4-2b1a-43cd-8cd9-6b58d6c71c85@linaro.org>

Hello,

On Tue Nov 21, 2023 at 6:11 PM CET, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 21/11/2023 17:53, Théo Lebrun wrote:
> > On Mon Nov 20, 2023 at 6:32 PM CET, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> >> On 20/11/2023 18:06, Théo Lebrun wrote:
> >>> On this platform, the controller & its wrapper are reset on resume. This
> >>> makes it have a different behavior from other platforms.
> >>>
> >>> We allow using the new compatible with a fallback onto the original
> >>> ti,j721e-usb compatible. We therefore allow using an older kernel with
> >>
> >> Where is fallback ti,j721e-usb used? Please point me to the code.
> > 
> > No fallback is implemented in code. Using a kernel that doesn't have
> > this patch series but a more recent devicetree: DT has both
> > devicetrees & the kernel will know which driver to use.
>
> I meant your bindings. You said - with fallback to ti,j721e-usb. I do
> not see it. To me the commit description is not accurate.

I see your point, I'll remove that aspect.

> > That is opposed to having only compatible = "ti,j7200-usb". If using an
> > old kernel, it would not know what driver to match it to.
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> >>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/ti,j721e-usb.yaml
> >>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/ti,j721e-usb.yaml
> >>> @@ -12,11 +12,15 @@ maintainers:
> >>>  properties:
> >>>    compatible:
> >>>      oneOf:
> >>> +      - const: ti,j7200-usb
> >>>        - const: ti,j721e-usb
> >>>        - const: ti,am64-usb
> >>>        - items:
> >>>            - const: ti,j721e-usb
> >>>            - const: ti,am64-usb
> >>> +      - items:
> >>> +          - const: ti,j721e-usb
> >>
> >> This makes little sense. It's already on the list. Twice! Don't add it
> >> third time.
> >>
> >> I am sorry, but this binding makes no sense. I mean, existing binding
> >> makes no sense, but your change is not making it anyhow better.
> > 
> > The goal of the DT schema pre-patch was to allow all three:
> > 
> >    compatible = "ti,j721e-usb";
> >    compatible = "ti,am64-usb";
> >    compatible = "ti,j721e-usb", "ti,am64-usb";
>
> Which does not make sense.
>
> How ti,j721e-usb can be and cannot be compatible with am64 in the same time?

The code tells us that there is no difference between ti,j721e-usb &
ti,am64-usb. And the commit adding the of_device_id entry agrees, see
4f30b9d2315f (usb: cdns3: Add support for TI's AM64 SoC, 2021-01-19).
Here is the entire patch because it is so small:

   diff --git a/drivers/usb/cdns3/cdns3-ti.c b/drivers/usb/cdns3/cdns3-ti.c
   index 90e246601537..eccb1c766bba 100644
   --- a/drivers/usb/cdns3/cdns3-ti.c
   +++ b/drivers/usb/cdns3/cdns3-ti.c
   @@ -214,6 +214,7 @@ static int cdns_ti_remove(struct platform_device *pdev)

    static const struct of_device_id cdns_ti_of_match[] = {
      { .compatible = "ti,j721e-usb", },
   +  { .compatible = "ti,am64-usb", },
      {},
    };
    MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE(of, cdns_ti_of_match);

> > I've followed the same scheme & added both of those:
> > 
> >    compatible = "ti,j7200-usb";
> >    compatible = "ti,j7200-usb", "ti,j721e-usb";
> > 
> > I messed up the ordering in the added 'items' options, but the logic
> > seems right to me. And dtbs_check agrees. Am I missing something?
>
> Logic is wrong. Device either is or is not compatible with something. At
> least usually. We have some exceptions like SMMU for Adreno. Is this the
> case? Why the device is and is not compatible with some other variant?

My understanding is this: j721e & am64 are strictly equivalent. On our
j7200 we know we reset on resume. I see three ways forward:

 - properties:
     compatible:
       oneOf:
         - const: ti,j7200-usb
         - const: ti,j721e-usb
         - const: ti,am64-usb

   We keep both ti,j721e-usb & ti,am64-usb separate even though they are
   compatible. It makes for simpler changes & it avoids touching
   devicetrees.

 - properties:
   compatible:
     oneOf:
       - const: ti,j7200-usb
       - const: ti,j721e-usb

   AM64 is a duplicate of J721E. Remove it and update upstream
   devicetrees.

 - properties:
   compatible:
     oneOf:
       - const: ti,j7200-usb
       - items:
           - const: ti,j721e-usb
           - const: ti,am64-usb

   J721E & AM64 are compatible, express that & update devicetrees.

Option one is simpler & doesn't change devicetrees so I'd lean in that
direction. What's your opinion?

Regards,

--
Théo Lebrun, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Théo Lebrun" <theo.lebrun@bootlin.com>
To: "Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Roger Quadros" <rogerq@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Chen" <peter.chen@kernel.org>,
	"Pawel Laszczak" <pawell@cadence.com>,
	"Nishanth Menon" <nm@ti.com>,
	"Vignesh Raghavendra" <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	"Tero Kristo" <kristo@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Grégory Clement" <gregory.clement@bootlin.com>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/7] dt-bindings: usb: ti,j721e-usb: add ti,j7200-usb compatible
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 11:46:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CX5A3OSPKM1Q.1CPN17KI0PD7A@tleb-bootlin-xps13-01> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d0cc33d4-2b1a-43cd-8cd9-6b58d6c71c85@linaro.org>

Hello,

On Tue Nov 21, 2023 at 6:11 PM CET, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 21/11/2023 17:53, Théo Lebrun wrote:
> > On Mon Nov 20, 2023 at 6:32 PM CET, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> >> On 20/11/2023 18:06, Théo Lebrun wrote:
> >>> On this platform, the controller & its wrapper are reset on resume. This
> >>> makes it have a different behavior from other platforms.
> >>>
> >>> We allow using the new compatible with a fallback onto the original
> >>> ti,j721e-usb compatible. We therefore allow using an older kernel with
> >>
> >> Where is fallback ti,j721e-usb used? Please point me to the code.
> > 
> > No fallback is implemented in code. Using a kernel that doesn't have
> > this patch series but a more recent devicetree: DT has both
> > devicetrees & the kernel will know which driver to use.
>
> I meant your bindings. You said - with fallback to ti,j721e-usb. I do
> not see it. To me the commit description is not accurate.

I see your point, I'll remove that aspect.

> > That is opposed to having only compatible = "ti,j7200-usb". If using an
> > old kernel, it would not know what driver to match it to.
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> >>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/ti,j721e-usb.yaml
> >>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/usb/ti,j721e-usb.yaml
> >>> @@ -12,11 +12,15 @@ maintainers:
> >>>  properties:
> >>>    compatible:
> >>>      oneOf:
> >>> +      - const: ti,j7200-usb
> >>>        - const: ti,j721e-usb
> >>>        - const: ti,am64-usb
> >>>        - items:
> >>>            - const: ti,j721e-usb
> >>>            - const: ti,am64-usb
> >>> +      - items:
> >>> +          - const: ti,j721e-usb
> >>
> >> This makes little sense. It's already on the list. Twice! Don't add it
> >> third time.
> >>
> >> I am sorry, but this binding makes no sense. I mean, existing binding
> >> makes no sense, but your change is not making it anyhow better.
> > 
> > The goal of the DT schema pre-patch was to allow all three:
> > 
> >    compatible = "ti,j721e-usb";
> >    compatible = "ti,am64-usb";
> >    compatible = "ti,j721e-usb", "ti,am64-usb";
>
> Which does not make sense.
>
> How ti,j721e-usb can be and cannot be compatible with am64 in the same time?

The code tells us that there is no difference between ti,j721e-usb &
ti,am64-usb. And the commit adding the of_device_id entry agrees, see
4f30b9d2315f (usb: cdns3: Add support for TI's AM64 SoC, 2021-01-19).
Here is the entire patch because it is so small:

   diff --git a/drivers/usb/cdns3/cdns3-ti.c b/drivers/usb/cdns3/cdns3-ti.c
   index 90e246601537..eccb1c766bba 100644
   --- a/drivers/usb/cdns3/cdns3-ti.c
   +++ b/drivers/usb/cdns3/cdns3-ti.c
   @@ -214,6 +214,7 @@ static int cdns_ti_remove(struct platform_device *pdev)

    static const struct of_device_id cdns_ti_of_match[] = {
      { .compatible = "ti,j721e-usb", },
   +  { .compatible = "ti,am64-usb", },
      {},
    };
    MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE(of, cdns_ti_of_match);

> > I've followed the same scheme & added both of those:
> > 
> >    compatible = "ti,j7200-usb";
> >    compatible = "ti,j7200-usb", "ti,j721e-usb";
> > 
> > I messed up the ordering in the added 'items' options, but the logic
> > seems right to me. And dtbs_check agrees. Am I missing something?
>
> Logic is wrong. Device either is or is not compatible with something. At
> least usually. We have some exceptions like SMMU for Adreno. Is this the
> case? Why the device is and is not compatible with some other variant?

My understanding is this: j721e & am64 are strictly equivalent. On our
j7200 we know we reset on resume. I see three ways forward:

 - properties:
     compatible:
       oneOf:
         - const: ti,j7200-usb
         - const: ti,j721e-usb
         - const: ti,am64-usb

   We keep both ti,j721e-usb & ti,am64-usb separate even though they are
   compatible. It makes for simpler changes & it avoids touching
   devicetrees.

 - properties:
   compatible:
     oneOf:
       - const: ti,j7200-usb
       - const: ti,j721e-usb

   AM64 is a duplicate of J721E. Remove it and update upstream
   devicetrees.

 - properties:
   compatible:
     oneOf:
       - const: ti,j7200-usb
       - items:
           - const: ti,j721e-usb
           - const: ti,am64-usb

   J721E & AM64 are compatible, express that & update devicetrees.

Option one is simpler & doesn't change devicetrees so I'd lean in that
direction. What's your opinion?

Regards,

--
Théo Lebrun, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-22 10:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-20 17:06 [PATCH v2 0/7] usb: cdns: fix suspend on J7200 by assuming reset-on-resume Théo Lebrun
2023-11-20 17:06 ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-20 17:06 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] dt-bindings: usb: ti,j721e-usb: add ti,j7200-usb compatible Théo Lebrun
2023-11-20 17:06   ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-20 17:32   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-20 17:32     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-21 16:53     ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-21 16:53       ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-21 17:11       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-21 17:11         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-22 10:46         ` Théo Lebrun [this message]
2023-11-22 10:46           ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-22 12:00           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-22 12:00             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-22 17:14             ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-22 17:14               ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-20 17:06 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] usb: cdns3-ti: remove runtime PM Théo Lebrun
2023-11-20 17:06   ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-22 23:42   ` Kevin Hilman
2023-11-22 23:42     ` Kevin Hilman
2023-11-20 17:06 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] usb: cdns3-ti: move reg writes from probe into an init_hw helper Théo Lebrun
2023-11-20 17:06   ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-20 17:06 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] usb: cdns3-ti: add suspend/resume procedures for J7200 Théo Lebrun
2023-11-20 17:06   ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-20 17:31   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-20 17:31     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-21 16:48     ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-21 16:48       ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-20 17:06 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] usb: cdns3: add quirk to platform data for reset-on-resume Théo Lebrun
2023-11-20 17:06   ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-21 10:40   ` Peter Chen
2023-11-21 10:40     ` Peter Chen
2023-11-20 17:06 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] usb: cdns3-ti: signal reset-on-resume to xHCI for J7200 platform Théo Lebrun
2023-11-20 17:06   ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-21 16:53   ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-21 16:53     ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-21 17:06     ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-21 17:06       ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-20 17:06 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] arm64: dts: ti: k3-j7200: use J7200-specific USB compatible Théo Lebrun
2023-11-20 17:06   ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-20 17:32   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-20 17:32     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-20 17:33 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] usb: cdns: fix suspend on J7200 by assuming reset-on-resume Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-20 17:33   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-22 23:44 ` Kevin Hilman
2023-11-22 23:44   ` Kevin Hilman

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