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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jhubbard@nvidia.com,
	tjmercier@google.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org, surenb@google.com,
	mkoutny@suse.com, daniel@ffwll.ch,
	"Daniel P . Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Zefan Li <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 14/19] mm: Introduce a cgroup for pinned memory
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 16:05:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y/at3iYz/xBSPPM+@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k009nvnr.fsf@nvidia.com>

On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 09:59:35AM +1100, Alistair Popple wrote:
> The idea was every driver already needs to allocate a pages array to
> pass to pin_user_pages(), and by necessity drivers have to keep a
> reference to the contents of that in one form or another. So
> conceptually the equivalent of:
> 
> struct vm_account {
>        struct list_head possible_pinners;
>        struct mem_cgroup *memcg;
>        struct pages **pages;
>        [...]
> };
> 
> Unpinnig involves finding a new owner by traversing the list of
> page->memcg_data->possible_pinners and iterating over *pages[] to figure
> out if that vm_account actually has this page pinned or not and could
> own it.
> 
> Agree this is costly though. And I don't think all drivers keep the
> array around so "iterating over *pages[]" may need to be a callback.

Is pinning in this context referring to FOLL_LONGTERM pins or any
FOLL_PIN?  In the latter case block based direct I/O does not keep
the pages array around, and also is absolutely not willing to pay
for the overhead.

For FOLL_LONGTERM the schemes sounds vaguely reasonable to me.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-23  0:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-06  7:47 [PATCH 00/19] mm: Introduce a cgroup to limit the amount of locked and pinned memory Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 01/19] mm: Introduce vm_account Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 02/19] drivers/vhost: Convert to use vm_account Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 03/19] drivers/vdpa: Convert vdpa to use the new vm_structure Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 04/19] infiniband/umem: Convert to use vm_account Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 05/19] RMDA/siw: " Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-12 17:32   ` Bernard Metzler
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 06/19] RDMA/usnic: convert " Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 07/19] vfio/type1: Charge pinned pages to pinned_vm instead of locked_vm Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 08/19] vfio/spapr_tce: Convert accounting to pinned_vm Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 09/19] io_uring: convert to use vm_account Alistair Popple
2023-02-06 15:29   ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-06 15:29     ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-07  1:03     ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-07  1:03       ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-07 14:28       ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-07 14:55         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-07 14:55           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-07 17:05           ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-07 17:05             ` Jens Axboe
2023-02-13 11:30             ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-13 11:30               ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 10/19] net: skb: Switch to using vm_account Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 11/19] xdp: convert to use vm_account Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 12/19] kvm/book3s_64_vio: Convert account_locked_vm() to vm_account_pinned() Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 13/19] fpga: dfl: afu: convert to use vm_account Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 14/19] mm: Introduce a cgroup for pinned memory Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06 21:01   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-06 21:01     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-06 21:14   ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-06 21:14     ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-06 22:32     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-06 22:32       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-06 22:36       ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-06 22:39         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-06 22:39           ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-06 23:25           ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-06 23:25             ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-06 23:34             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-06 23:34               ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-06 23:40             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-06 23:40               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-07  0:32               ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-07  0:32                 ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-07 12:19                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-07 12:19                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-15 19:00                 ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-15 19:00                   ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-15 19:07                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-15 19:07                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-16  8:04                     ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-16  8:04                       ` Michal Hocko
2023-02-16 12:45                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-16 12:45                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-21 16:51                         ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-21 16:51                           ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-21 17:25                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-21 17:29                             ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-21 17:29                               ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-21 17:51                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-21 17:51                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-21 18:07                                 ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-21 18:07                                   ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-21 19:26                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-21 19:26                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-21 19:45                                     ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-21 19:45                                       ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-21 19:49                                       ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-21 19:49                                         ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-21 19:57                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-22 11:38                                         ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-22 11:38                                           ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-22 12:57                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-22 12:57                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-22 22:59                                             ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-22 22:59                                               ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-23  0:05                                               ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2023-02-23  0:35                                                 ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-23  0:35                                                   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-23  1:53                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-23  1:53                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-23  9:12                                                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-23 17:31                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-23 17:31                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-23 17:18                                                 ` T.J. Mercier
2023-02-23 17:28                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-23 17:28                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-23 18:03                                                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-23 18:10                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-23 18:10                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-23 18:14                                                         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-23 18:14                                                           ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-23 18:15                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-23 18:17                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-23 18:17                                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-02-23 18:22                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-23 18:22                                                               ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-07  1:00           ` Waiman Long
2023-02-07  1:00             ` Waiman Long
2023-02-07  1:03             ` Tejun Heo
2023-02-07  1:50               ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-07  1:50                 ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 15/19] mm/util: Extend vm_account to charge pages against the pin cgroup Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 16/19] mm/util: Refactor account_locked_vm Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 17/19] mm: Convert mmap and mlock to use account_locked_vm Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 18/19] mm/mmap: Charge locked memory to pins cgroup Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-06 21:12   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-02-06  7:47 ` [PATCH 19/19] selftests/vm: Add pins-cgroup selftest for mlock/mmap Alistair Popple
2023-02-06  7:47   ` Alistair Popple
2023-02-16 11:01 ` [PATCH 00/19] mm: Introduce a cgroup to limit the amount of locked and pinned memory David Hildenbrand
2023-02-16 11:01   ` David Hildenbrand

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